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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 1, 2021 11:36:24 GMT -5
Regarding current seniors getting an extra year---Ask yourself this: what do the power programs want the NCAA to decide: therein lies your answer. Duke and North Carolina, for example, each has 2 seniors with only 1 a starter. They may decide that they don't want other schools being able to bring back 3 seniors (maybe 2 are starters) while they can only bring back 2, especially if Duke, UNC, and their running dogs feel that their seniors may go pro while some other schools would be bringing back good players who might not be NBA material.
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2021 11:40:14 GMT -5
I think the first tweet is a week old and would note I have no idea if it is referencing HC basketball and beyond that things like playing time, offensive looks, etc. are often cause for concern. And a decision on returning made during the break, FWIW, would not be out of the question. If that is even an HC possibility to begin with. (None of this has anything to do with message boards.)Well that's good. Even when some player is struggling , I try to temper my comments about a group of which half are teenagers and they or their parents might be reading |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 11:53:48 GMT -5
Judson Martindale had his second best game of the year--his best if you go by KenPom's "o-rating". He also wasn't just a shooter with 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal. I wasn't able to watch the gam and would appreciate any insights from viewers. Judson played confidently. Those stats are accurate as far as his impact was concerned. His 25 minutes were well deserved. He even briefly stayed in front of one of their quick guards. The fact that his 3 pointers were falling seemed to energize his whole game. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 11:55:57 GMT -5
Regarding current seniors getting an extra year---Ask yourself this: what do the power programs want the NCAA to decide: therein lies your answer. Duke and North Carolina, for example, each has 2 seniors with only 1 a starter. They may decide that they don't want other schools being able to bring back 3 seniors (maybe 2 are starters) while they can only bring back 2, especially if Duke, UNC, and their running dogs feel that their seniors may go pro while some other schools would be bringing back good players who might not be NBA material. There is no current indication from the NCAA that the13 scholarship limit will change. |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 1, 2021 12:02:27 GMT -5
Judson Martindale had his second best game of the year--his best if you go by KenPom's "o-rating". He also wasn't just a shooter with 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal. I wasn't able to watch the gam and would appreciate any insights from viewers. He made 2 terrible defensive plays in a row (or close, time-wise, to each other). The first one's a little fuzzy but trust me, they got a layup and he was part of the problem. The second one, he turned his back completely away from the play. The CU guy was in the process of beating his man and once he did, it was a clear path to the hoop for a layup. Not to pick on the kid, these things happen with freshmen and he did a lot of good things out there as the stats show. But the plays were bad enough that he got yanked from the game at that point. That would be, of course, Mr. Nelson's judgement that the plays were unacceptable, not my worthless one. |
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Post by possum on Feb 1, 2021 12:06:03 GMT -5
Is the NCAA talking about permanently expanding the number of scholarships or is it just for a year or some other temporary period of time.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 12:10:09 GMT -5
Judson Martindale had his second best game of the year--his best if you go by KenPom's "o-rating". He also wasn't just a shooter with 5 rebounds, 2 blocks, and a steal. I wasn't able to watch the gam and would appreciate any insights from viewer Not to pick on the kid But you just did exactly that |
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Post by possum on Feb 1, 2021 12:10:33 GMT -5
If the NCAA is not going to increase scholarship limit how would the seniors comeback if we're already at 13 for next season?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 12:11:20 GMT -5
Is the NCAA talking about permanently expanding the number of scholarships or is it just for a year or some other temporary period of time. They are not expanding or even considering it, as far as I see. |
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 12:12:29 GMT -5
If the NCAA is not going to increase scholarship limit how would the seniors comeback if we're already at 13 for next season? Exactly |
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Post by bison137 on Feb 1, 2021 12:12:47 GMT -5
Regarding current seniors getting an extra year---Ask yourself this: what do the power programs want the NCAA to decide: therein lies your answer. Duke and North Carolina, for example, each has 2 seniors with only 1 a starter. They may decide that they don't want other schools being able to bring back 3 seniors (maybe 2 are starters) while they can only bring back 2, especially if Duke, UNC, and their running dogs feel that their seniors may go pro while some other schools would be bringing back good players who might not be NBA material. There is no current indication from the NCAA that the13 scholarship limit will change. The NCAA quite a while ago said the scholarship limit would change for the 2021-22 season. But I have not seen anything as to whether the PL will go along with that. One example is an article from CBSSports: "Granting an extra year of eligibility could bring plenty of complications for schools, however. The NCAA's announcement said seniors student-athletes who take advantage of the additional year of eligibility will not count against team scholarship limits in 2021-22. But even with temporarily-expanded scholarship limits, athletic departments dealing with significant budget shortfalls may not be in position to spend more on athletic scholarships. The NCAA's announcement Friday did not mandate that schools fund the scholarships of seniors for an additional year; this adopted rule merely allows for the temporary expansion of scholarship limits to accommodate seniors who do opt to return for an additional season." |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 1, 2021 12:19:03 GMT -5
But you just did exactly that Like I said, Coach's actions speak a lot louder than my words. Leave it at that. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 1, 2021 12:19:33 GMT -5
I am going to go out on a limb (ha ha) and predict the PL will not comply. Could see quite a few PL seniors suiting up for a different team next year.
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Post by trimster on Feb 1, 2021 12:21:00 GMT -5
I agree with your comment on the CROSSPORTS commentary. However, the few who do attack players (as "the seniors" for one example, or more personal negative comments) make quite an impression on the family and friends of those players. That can be what they tend to remember. The seniors have been loyal warriors. Their play has improved. They also provide experience and leadership to our newcomers. As to next year, while I won't worry about that until then, I would hope that of they wished to return there would be a place for them. They have each certainly earned one. Just the timing of the tweets makes me think something recent was interpreted as disloyal. I am a big supporter of out two seniors. That being said 1) If they had hopes of returning for a 5th year, last week seems a little late to be making that request. I would have guessed within a week or two of the NCAA announcing this year didn't count towards eligibility 2) IF they wished to return we hope there would be a place for them. 2 of the top 3 scorers and rebounders on the team. Yup that is going to be a void to fill. Until the NCAA comes out and says that, in conjunction with this season not counting towards eligibility, they are not going to count 5th year players against scholarship limits, there's going to be a problem. The school has 13 scholarships committed for next year not counting Austin or Matt. For every senior that stays, someone else has to go. Barring the ugly T word, the school would have to renege on a commitment to an incoming freshman. Not a great situation either Brett Nelson said on a Zoom Meeting for season ticket holders that he still had one scholarship available. I believe the comment came after he had made comments about the 3 hs srs who signed on in early November. |
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Post by timholycross on Feb 1, 2021 12:24:13 GMT -5
Why would 2 guys who have something to offer to a Division 1 university not want to move on to some place where their services are needed and get a free year of grad school? A win for everyone.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 1, 2021 12:29:01 GMT -5
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Post by possum on Feb 1, 2021 12:31:29 GMT -5
Not sure how there would be one available scholarship unless Reilly isn't on scholarship. Assuming he is, we have 10 returning players and 3 incoming freshmen.
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2021 13:00:50 GMT -5
we have 10 returning players and 3 incoming freshmen. That's my math |
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 1, 2021 13:03:25 GMT -5
From the 1910 Holy Cross yearbook In speaking of athletics one must not forget the man who does not play. Behind the grand-stand screen there is many a strong body and ardent spirit yearning to be in the thick of the fight who cannot participate; many a youth, too, whose devotion to the team is the more unselfish because some requirement of weight, strength or physical condition keeps him off the field. These and others without the time or ability to play themselves, come to the games, give their financial support and their encouragement. These men make athletics possible and keep it active. For these does the team play and with these rejoice when victory is won. And Holy Cross produces her own type of spectator. He is enthusiastic, strong-lunged, devoted and philosophical, and his antics are not the least of the attractions at a baseball or football contest.  |
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Post by hcpride on Feb 1, 2021 13:09:01 GMT -5
Not sure how there would be one available scholarship unless Reilly isn't on scholarship. Assuming he is, we have 10 returning players and 3 incoming freshmen. Agree with both of your sentences. |
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Post by Tom on Feb 1, 2021 13:48:47 GMT -5
Reilly was on scholarship last year. I have no reason to believe that changed for this year.
We all assume that our 6 freshmen and 2 transfers are on scholarship. Sounds like deja vu all over again with conversations at this time last year
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Post by crusader1970 on Feb 1, 2021 14:45:58 GMT -5
In the article in the Blue Ribbon Basketball Yearbook on HC, the writer (Chris Courogen) quotes Nelson several times and everything in the writeup is obviously based on what Nelson told him.
Here's what it says on Reilly:
"Joey Reilly, a 6'0'' sophomore, is a walk-on who got significant minutes in the 17 games he played. He can compete for bench minutes."
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Post by trimster on Feb 1, 2021 16:06:08 GMT -5
Reilly was on scholarship last year. I have no reason to believe that changed for this year. We all assume that our 6 freshmen and 2 transfers are on scholarship. Sounds like deja vu all over again with conversations at this time last year Except for the fact we didn't have a statement in a public forum in which the head coach said he still had one scholarship to use. I suspect I am not the only regular poster who heard it. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 1, 2021 16:18:12 GMT -5
With all of the complaining about the defense, I am surprised that people want someone on the floor who the coaching staff appears to think is not ready for D1 basketball (for good reason, if so, given the COVID issues). If I am remembering correctly, Lout arrived right around the new year, meaning he has been with the team for 4-5 weeks. With this current back-to-back weekend schedule, I assume the team takes Mondays off and has a light practice on Friday to prep for the weekend. Assuming there are three “full practices” Tues-Thurs (which may even be a bit of a stretch), and going on the high end of him having been here for 5 weeks, that would mean he’s had 15 D1 practices, all coming after limited work since COVID started last spring and while the team is preparing for games (meaning there is a different structure than the preseason when there is more flexibility for development). Sorry, but it doesn’t sound an alarm for me that Louth may not be ready for D1 basketball after 15 practices (max). Good points as always but I make the assumption that with four coaches and a DOBO there is time for individual work on need areas such as footwork, positioning, shooting etc., in addition to the three practices per week. A DOBO is NOT allowed to "coach" anyone. Here is a job description for Bryant's DOBO hoopdirt.com/job/director-basketball-operations-bryant-university/ |
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 1, 2021 16:28:54 GMT -5
Not sure how there would be one available scholarship unless Reilly isn't on scholarship. Assuming he is, we have 10 returning players and 3 incoming freshmen. If Reilly had ten bucks for every time he has lost and regained his scholarship he wouldn't need a scholarship. Our best board detectives have dissected this issue and it still isn't 100% certain one way or another. |
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