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Post by southernsader on Feb 1, 2021 11:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 1, 2021 11:55:45 GMT -5
Yes, considering the season is supposed to start in a month. Just how the PL operates. Nice and slooooooooooooow
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 1, 2021 14:32:30 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Feb 1, 2021 14:34:48 GMT -5
I’m a bit surprised it’s so late since it must be a very simple (and short) schedule (unless I’m missing something).
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 1, 2021 15:35:27 GMT -5
Well, if HC is playing at Fr. K field, the schedule for those games needs to be coordinated with M/W lacrosse schedules. That may be the case with other schools as well. Its possible that a Saturday in March on top of the hill could feature a football, lacrosse, soccer, and field hockey game, with volleyball at the Luth.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 1, 2021 15:44:37 GMT -5
Maybe a muddy Fitton would cause the team to play one of the two home games at the top of the hill, but would that be the plan ?
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 1, 2021 15:54:46 GMT -5
Well, if HC is playing at Fr. K field, the schedule for those games needs to be coordinated with M/W lacrosse schedules. That may be the case with other schools as well. Its possible that a Saturday in March on top of the hill could feature a football, lacrosse, soccer, and field hockey game, with volleyball at the Luth. Well, the NEC is playing Sunday games....most Lacrosse games are on Saturdays which is the ONLY conflict at Holy Cross for that field.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 2, 2021 9:14:17 GMT -5
Considering it's all of 2 dates (maybe only one as I think Fitton would be ready in April), I would think they'd be able to figure it out.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 2, 2021 11:21:26 GMT -5
Hopefully the PL teams allow parents of players to attend games. With the games being played outdoors and stadiums more than large enough to accommodate extreme social distancing, there really is no excuse.
I recently read an article about a MA high school hockey player who suffered a serious injury during a game. No parents were allowed to attend the game, so his parents had to be notified by phone of the emergency situation and we’re quite a distance away. I can’t imagine receiving that kind of phone call. Parents should be able to attend these games, period.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 2, 2021 11:30:55 GMT -5
NEC schedule is for 4 Sundays in March. Selection on for the FCS Playoff will be made on Sunday April 18, 2021. First round playoff action will begin on April 24th. The quarterfinals will be Saturday May 1st and Semifinals on May 8th. The Championship game will be played on either May15th or 16th at Toyota Stadium in Frisco Texas.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 2, 2021 15:18:48 GMT -5
Hopefully the PL teams allow parents of players to attend games. With the games being played outdoors and stadiums more than large enough to accommodate extreme social distancing, there really is no excuse. I recently read an article about a MA high school hockey player who suffered a serious injury during a game. No parents were allowed to attend the game, so his parents had to be notified by phone of the emergency situation and we’re quite a distance away. I can’t imagine receiving that kind of phone call. Parents should be able to attend these games, period. If Holy Cross is playing at the field behind the gym, there is not way to socially distance there for 200 sets of parents.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 2, 2021 15:33:47 GMT -5
Remember, family members do not need social distance from their other family members.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 2, 2021 15:36:37 GMT -5
You can definitely fit 200 sets of parents around a football field with plenty of distancing.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 2, 2021 16:04:01 GMT -5
The family members must be Covid tested or vaccinated before being allowed to attend a game. If not, they present a risk to the athletes. Will they be Covid tested or vaccinated,? I do not have an answer.
Regardless of venue, Fr.K, Fitton, etc. they could pass the virus, if they are infected, to their child or children that have been in the campus bubble and tested several times a week on their meet and greet after the game. Easier for all to view on ESPN +, until the nightmare is abated.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 2, 2021 16:28:49 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current restrictions are around HC students interacting with their parents? Can a parent drive up to campus and take his or her kid out to eat? Is the answer different for athletes? Are kids allowed to leave campus? Can they go home for a night? Can they go to Wal-Mart? A bar?
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 2, 2021 17:00:23 GMT -5
My question is for a Spring season what effect is our indoor football field bubble going to have?
Are there any other PL teams that are able to practice inside?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 2, 2021 18:07:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current restrictions are around HC students interacting with their parents? Can a parent drive up to campus and take his or her kid out to eat? Is the answer different for athletes? Are kids allowed to leave campus? Can they go home for a night? Can they go to Wal-Mart? A bar? For move-in day, one parent (or relative) was allowed on-campus to help a student move-in. There are 700-800 students living off-campus. Those students who are in isolation, or who are required to quarantine, live off-campus in a hotel that HC has leased. And x number of students have their cars on campus. One can observe students driving up to The Jo in their cars, with great frequency. So the answer to most of your questions is 'yes'. IMO, there will be no parents (or fans) in the stands, either because the state/local dept. of health is not allowing it; and/or the PL schools have agreed not to allow fans, parents in the stands. If students are not allowed, parents certainly won't be allowed. A particular problem with Fr. K field is that parents/fans would need to use restrooms inside the Luth. That would be reason enough to preclude fans from attending. And it may be that the pandemic has eased enough by mid to late April that fans would be allowed. I have read of one college -- can't remember the name -- which will hold commencement with students attending, but no parents / guests. .
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 2, 2021 18:17:35 GMT -5
HC could have a football, soccer or lacrosse practice this evening, even with a foot of snow outside,.........the other PL teams do not have an indoor turf facility. Hopefully, the IPF will provide an advantage in not having to reschedule practice and workout times during February and March due to the weather. Lehigh has the Rauch field house and Bucknell the Gerhard field house, but I do not believe they can run an full football practice including field goals and punts inside. Lafayette, Fordham and Georgetown do not have indoor facilities suitable for an indoor football practice. lehighsports.com/facilities/rauch-fieldhouse/7bucknellbison.com/news/2013/7/19/209105190.aspxRegarding fans, I believe they will not be allowed in MA until Tier 4.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 2, 2021 18:55:18 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current restrictions are around HC students interacting with their parents? Can a parent drive up to campus and take his or her kid out to eat? Is the answer different for athletes? Are kids allowed to leave campus? Can they go home for a night? Can they go to Wal-Mart? A bar? The only restriction I am aware of is that no visitors are allowed in the dorms. Students can leave their dorms whenever they want, so interactions with parents, or anyone else for that matter, can occur outside the dorms and off-campus. Obviously, HC is doing its best to discourage such interactions, but there are limits to what it can realistically do to dictate such behavior.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 2, 2021 19:00:46 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current restrictions are around HC students interacting with their parents? Can a parent drive up to campus and take his or her kid out to eat? Is the answer different for athletes? Are kids allowed to leave campus? Can they go home for a night? Can they go to Wal-Mart? A bar? For move-in day, one parent (or relative) was allowed on-campus to help a student move-in. There are 700-800 students living off-campus. Those students who are in isolation, or who are required to quarantine, live off-campus in a hotel that HC has leased. And x number of students have their cars on campus. One can observe students driving up to The Jo in their cars, with great frequency. So the answer to most of your questions is 'yes'. IMO, there will be no parents (or fans) in the stands, either because the state/local dept. of health is not allowing it; and/or the PL schools have agreed not to allow fans, parents in the stands. If students are not allowed, parents certainly won't be allowed. A particular problem with Fr. K field is that parents/fans would need to use restrooms inside the Luth. That would be reason enough to preclude fans from attending. And it may be that the pandemic has eased enough by mid to late April that fans would be allowed. I have read of one college -- can't remember the name -- which will hold commencement with students attending, but no parents / guests. . I hear you. It just strikes me as the height of hypocrisy that you can have 200+ people indoors at the Walmart literally down the street from campus (or any Costco, Stop & Shop or Target for that matter) without restriction. It’s pretty laughable.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 2, 2021 19:56:27 GMT -5
Needs vs wants
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Post by hcpride on Feb 2, 2021 20:11:36 GMT -5
Does anyone know what the current restrictions are around HC students interacting with their parents? Can a parent drive up to campus and take his or her kid out to eat? Is the answer different for athletes? Are kids allowed to leave campus? Can they go home for a night? Can they go to Wal-Mart? A bar? For move-in day, one parent (or relative) was allowed on-campus to help a student move-in. There are 700-800 students living off-campus. Those students who are in isolation, or who are required to quarantine, live off-campus in a hotel that HC has leased. And x number of students have their cars on campus. One can observe students driving up to The Jo in their cars, with great frequency. So the answer to most of your questions is 'yes'. IMO, there will be no parents (or fans) in the stands, either because the state/local dept. of health is not allowing it; and/or the PL schools have agreed not to allow fans, parents in the stands. If students are not allowed, parents certainly won't be allowed. A particular problem with Fr. K field is that parents/fans would need to use restrooms inside the Luth. That would be reason enough to preclude fans from attending. And it may be that the pandemic has eased enough by mid to late April that fans would be allowed. I have read of one college -- can't remember the name -- which will hold commencement with students attending, but no parents / guests. . Perhaps parents who are fully vaccinated with documentation can then take a rapid test, double mask, face shield, and sit inside those little individual and well ventilated plastic tents I've seen outside a few NYC restaurants? With individual porta-potties within. We can perch a 100 of these in the stands around Fitton or scatter them within view of Father K field. Would MA permit that? (Forgive the sarcasm...tomorrow I'll again be with 800 kids and 100 adult staff members for 7 hours in a smallish high school building. Indoors with non-private bathrooms, in case there is any confusion.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 3, 2021 7:11:32 GMT -5
Massachusetts tracks clusters of cases by setting, a cluster being two or more cases in a particular setting. For example, a household “cluster” is defined as two or more confirmed Massachusetts cases, who reside at the same address with COVID-19 infection within 28 days of each other, and who are not associated with another cluster.
Setting are defined as well. For example, 24/7 Congregate settings is defined as group homes, congregate housing, disabled community housing, halfway houses, sober homes, residential treatment centers, lodging and rooming houses, monasteries/convents/rectories, DYS detention facilities.
New Clusters identified between 12/27 and Jan 23 Number of cases associated with clusters is higher, but not displayed.
24/7 Congregate settings 47 Child care 139 Colleges and universities 8 Hospitals 16 K-12 schools 20 Long term care facilities 74 Organized athletics 29 Restaurants / Food courts 15 Senior Living 39 Social gatherings 35 Travel & Lodging 0 Household 22,544 _________________ Total clusters 23,043
In January, 97.8 percent of community spread in MA was household spread. That would suggest that family members attending a sporting event are much more likely to be a potential source of infection on-campus than any other source. Between January 23rd and January 26th, a period when freshmen were moving on-campus for orientation prior to the start of the spring semester, there were 17 new cases among HC students. These students were most likely infected at home, prior to arriving in Worcester.
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Post by alum on Feb 3, 2021 8:07:38 GMT -5
For move-in day, one parent (or relative) was allowed on-campus to help a student move-in. There are 700-800 students living off-campus. Those students who are in isolation, or who are required to quarantine, live off-campus in a hotel that HC has leased. And x number of students have their cars on campus. One can observe students driving up to The Jo in their cars, with great frequency. So the answer to most of your questions is 'yes'. IMO, there will be no parents (or fans) in the stands, either because the state/local dept. of health is not allowing it; and/or the PL schools have agreed not to allow fans, parents in the stands. If students are not allowed, parents certainly won't be allowed. A particular problem with Fr. K field is that parents/fans would need to use restrooms inside the Luth. That would be reason enough to preclude fans from attending. And it may be that the pandemic has eased enough by mid to late April that fans would be allowed. I have read of one college -- can't remember the name -- which will hold commencement with students attending, but no parents / guests. . Perhaps parents who are fully vaccinated with documentation can then take a rapid test, double mask, face shield, and sit inside those little individual and well ventilated plastic tents I've seen outside a few NYC restaurants? With individual porta-potties within. We can perch a 100 of these in the stands around Fitton or scatter them within view of Father K field. Would MA permit that? (Forgive the sarcasm...tomorrow I'll again be with 800 kids and 100 adult staff members for 7 hours in a smallish high school building. Indoors with non-private bathrooms, in case there is any confusion.) This is, of course, because high schools are among the most important "needs" and college sports are "wants." One way we can have the needs is by avoiding some of the wants. I agree that parents could be spread around a college football or lacrosse field wearing masks and keeping socially distant and I would certainly encourage high schools to allow parents to attend games, but perhaps the College is trying to do its part to encourage people to avoid travel which is among the best ways to control virus spread. We were all able to see the surges associated with Thanksgiving and Christmas travel and gatherings. I am confident that you have a colleague or student who has had a loved one become quite ill or die from this horrible disease and that you might be unaware of this happening. Are you so haughty when you pontificate about the disease at school not knowing who you could offend?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 3, 2021 8:36:28 GMT -5
It's a slippery slope telling people what they need vs. what they want. Maybe a mother and father need to watch their son play his first college football game vs. someone needing to peruse the aisles at a department store for non-essential items.
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