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Post by HC92 on Feb 14, 2021 16:09:35 GMT -5
Basketball has nothing to do with this. This strictly has to do with their association within PL football. Clearly the schools operate sports differently (one PL, one A10, one BE). However, PL football provided common ground for football. It's why Army and Navy joined in the PL while maintaining their separate FBS identities. Well, lets see what happens. I never thought a simple comment about institutional/athletic alliance would turn into this. You haven't been on this board too long, have you? Funny. And true. I agree with his broader point about the season being iffy. I suspect the PL only wants to proceed if everything goes perfectly but everything is definitely not going to go perfectly.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 14, 2021 16:19:06 GMT -5
If practice is suspended for over 10 days, an athlete must have at least 6 practices before he can play in a game. That would seem to apply here. With two weeks to their first game after the suspension, that game could be played (if the two teams wish to do so).
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Post by hc87 on Feb 21, 2021 13:58:53 GMT -5
The SoCon had a few games yesterday....Wofford, Furman and ETSU were your winnahs
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 21, 2021 15:10:05 GMT -5
I just heard that the PL is having a meeting tomorrow to discuss the spring season. Apparently Lafayette, Bucknell and Fordham are all in quarantine right now. The rumor is that the spring season might be scrapped altogether or those 3 might become a separate conference and will have a delayed, shortened or no season, with HC, Lehigh and Colgate moving forward separately with a home-and-home schedule. Either way, it doesn’t sound too promising.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 21, 2021 18:13:08 GMT -5
Holy Cross football plays intrasquad scrimmage on indoor turf Crusaders step up preparations for March 13 opener at Lehigh Jennifer Toland Telegram & Gazette
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Holy Cross football coach Bob Chesney lauded his players for being prepared despite all the obstacles created by the COVID-19 pandemic. WORCESTER – The Holy Cross football team, counting down to its season opener March 13, played an intrasquad scrimmage Saturday afternoon on the indoor turf at the Luth Athletic Complex.
Before the action started, the Crusaders lined up side by side to form a “tunnel” and welcome officials onto the field.
“Although the future is still uncertain,” HC coach Bob Chesney, “today, with the referees here, they are as passionate about this sport as we are, and a sign that we are all in this together is what we wanted them to feel because I’m sure they miss it as much as we do, and we’re all glad to be back together.”
Holy Cross, the defending Patriot League champion, will play a four-game spring schedule, beginning March 13 at Lehigh.
HC will play its home opener against Fordham March 20 at Fitton Field, travel to Colgate March 27, and host Bucknell April 3.
Georgetown will not play football this spring, so the PL’s other six teams are split into two three-team divisions: Holy Cross, Colgate and Fordham in the North, and Bucknell, Lafayette and Lehigh in the South.
A championship game between the two division winners will be played April 17. The weekend of April 10 is for makeup games.
To start the 2021 spring season, all games at Fitton Field and other HC athletic venues will be played without fans in attendance. The situation will continue to be evaluated based on state, league and institutional policies as the season progresses.
—Contact Jennifer Toland at jennifer.toland@telegram.com. Follow her on Twitter @jentandg.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 21, 2021 18:33:08 GMT -5
Is the 16 team FCS championship tournament still on this Spring?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 21, 2021 19:19:27 GMT -5
Bucknell had 43 positives on Feb 16, 23 on the 17th, 18 on the 18th, 20 on the 19th. On Feb 18th, 212 students were in isolation. Bucknell is using about two thirds of its isolation capacity. Bucknell states that those in isolation have either tested positive or are very likely to do so. Bucknell has no metric that I found for quarantine.
Bucknell weekly test count is half that of HC, and it appears most students are tested once per week.
For comparison, HC had three student positives between Feb 14th and 20th. ______________
Lafayette, not as badly off as Bucknell. On Feb 19, 33 Lafayette students were in isolation, and 37 in quarantine. Once again, a school that does not test with the frequency of Holy Cross. A total of 6281 student and staff tests since February 1. HC did 5699 tests between Feb 15 and 20. ____________
Fordham, Rose Hill campus, 14 day running total. Between Feb 7 and Feb 20, 4375 tests administered, 213 positives, positive test rate of 4.87 percent. Holy Cross' positive test rate for Feb 5 -- Feb 20 is 0.11 percent.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 21, 2021 19:52:31 GMT -5
^ Honorable Dean Wormer - any shot we could get a virus talk only thread so we don't have to read this stuff in every single thread from freak.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 25, 2021 12:15:27 GMT -5
I am hearing a rumor that a few players on the football team were potentially exposed to COVID. Trying to get confirmation and more info. on how the team is responding.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 25, 2021 12:23:01 GMT -5
I am hearing a rumor that a few players on the football team were potentially exposed to COVID. Trying to get confirmation and more info. on how the team is responding. After almost a week with no new student positives, there were six student positives yesterday, and one so far today. From the isolation / quarantine availability status, it appears most of these new cases are students living off-campus. HC reports on residence location of student positives on Fridays.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 25, 2021 15:23:18 GMT -5
^ I’m hearing that 4 of the recent positives were in the freshmen dorm, Brooks Hall, which has been placed in quarantine for 24 hours while further testing of the students residing there is performed. Also, 4 seniors on the football team were exposed to COVID and are undergoing further testing.
Hopefully this doesn’t expand any further.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 25, 2021 16:25:14 GMT -5
^ I’m hearing that 4 of the recent positives were in the freshmen dorm, Brooks Hall, which has been placed in quarantine for 24 hours while further testing of the students residing there is performed. Also, 4 seniors on the football team were exposed to COVID and are undergoing further testing. Hopefully this doesn’t expand any further. Quarantining all of Brooks Hall in place would explain why the isolation/quarantine capacity is at 95 percent available. Students who are positive are moved immediately to the HC-leased hotel in downtown Worcester, and I believe quarantine students who live-on-campus are moved there as well. Yesterday was the third day since January 19th when six students have tested positive. The earlier two days were likely associated with move-in and return to campus.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 27, 2021 8:19:02 GMT -5
^ I’m hearing that 4 of the recent positives were in the freshmen dorm, Brooks Hall, which has been placed in quarantine for 24 hours while further testing of the students residing there is performed. Also, 4 seniors on the football team were exposed to COVID and are undergoing further testing. Hopefully this doesn’t expand any further. HC announcement, situation as of late Friday.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 27, 2021 9:34:24 GMT -5
^ I’m hearing that 4 of the recent positives were in the freshmen dorm, Brooks Hall, which has been placed in quarantine for 24 hours while further testing of the students residing there is performed. Also, 4 seniors on the football team were exposed to COVID and are undergoing further testing. Hopefully this doesn’t expand any further. HC announcement, situation as of late Friday. The lock down request gives a peek into the Draconian nature of college life this year compared to the traditional relaxed atmosphere.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 27, 2021 11:30:37 GMT -5
Assuming this photo is from today, seems like we have a high percentage of the team free and practicing.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 27, 2021 13:03:14 GMT -5
HC announcement, situation as of late Friday. The lock down request gives a peek into the Draconian nature of college life this year compared to the traditional relaxed atmosphere. So true. The quarantine of every student in Brooks Hall (approx. 450 students) is an overreaction. I have been told that the positives were on a single floor within Brooks and in adjacent rooms. To essentially lock down the entire dorm, even after testing of every student in Brooks had been completed, is absurd. Unfortunately, this has become the “new normal” in our society. Get used to it, because the new goalpost for COVID is zero infections, which will never happen even if every person in the world is vaccinated.
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Post by Chu Chu on Feb 27, 2021 14:08:37 GMT -5
hc2020 - what is your experience in this area? Have you known people infected? Have you known people with "long haul symptoms? Have you known people who have been hospitalized or who have died? I have known all of these, and it has made me more cautious, not less. A college population, such as Holy Cross, is at great risk of spread, which can explode quickly. That could and would really ruin the semester for so many, even if everyone recovers and has no long term problems (a big IF). If there is an error to be made, erring on the side of caution seems the most prudent to me.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 27, 2021 15:41:46 GMT -5
hc2020 - what is your experience in this area? Have you known people infected? Have you known people with "long haul symptoms? Have you known people who have been hospitalized or who have died? I have known all of these, and it has made me more cautious, not less. A college population, such as Holy Cross, is at great risk of spread, which can explode quickly. That could and would really ruin the semester for so many, even if everyone recovers and has no long term problems (a big IF). If there is an error to be made, erring on the side of caution seems the most prudent to me. This semester and the two before that have already been really ruined for most college kids in America. As you know, there are serious potential consequences to keeping a large percentage of 18-22 year olds locked up for a year. These same 18-22 year olds tend to have few or no symptoms if they do happen to contract the virus. I have a 15 yo and a 16 yo and I see the consequences of the virus on them every day even though neither has had the virus as far as we know.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 27, 2021 16:37:17 GMT -5
HC did 2771 tests Wed-Friday, Wednesday being the day after six positive tests were recorded. One student tested positive on Wednesday, none on Thursday, one student on Friday. Based on the HC announcement, the Brooks quarantine ended earlier today, when the results of Friday's testing showed very low positivity.
(Broad's testing is done overnight, so, for example, the results of a test taken on Thursday is reported back to HC on Friday AM.)
For comparison, Bucknell last week had 86 student positives in three days, which demonstrates that a small cluster can explode quickly.
And, finally, let's look at Fordham, whose football schedule is up in the air.
^^^From The Fordham COVID website. Bolding mine.
For Fordham's Rose Hill campus, for the two weeks Feb 12-25, there were 231 positive tests, and a 5.21 percent positivity rate. Fordham can't resume sports practice given those values.
Unfortunately, Fordham can't (or won't because of cost) avail itself of testing resources similar to what HC is using, and paying for, at a cost of about $1 million a month. More testing might lower the positive percentage, but I suspect the number of positive cases will still be over 100 for the two week period 2/19-3/4.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 27, 2021 17:00:27 GMT -5
hc2020 - what is your experience in this area? Have you known people infected? Have you known people with "long haul symptoms? Have you known people who have been hospitalized or who have died? I have known all of these, and it has made me more cautious, not less. A college population, such as Holy Cross, is at great risk of spread, which can explode quickly. That could and would really ruin the semester for so many, even if everyone recovers and has no long term problems (a big IF). If there is an error to be made, erring on the side of caution seems the most prudent to me. This semester and the two before that have already been really ruined for most college kids in America. As you know, there are seeious potential consequences to keeping a large percentage of 18-22 year olds locked up for a year. These same 18-22 year olds tend to have few or no symptoms if they do happen to contract the virus. I have a 15 yo and a 16 yo and I see the consequences of the virus on them every day even though neither has had the virus as far as we know. The virus is NOT funny, but a good proof source for your point is how quarantine turned Seinfeld's "Bubble Boy" into a real brat.🙂.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 27, 2021 17:04:44 GMT -5
Fordham's positive test rate increased in the last two weeks. The earliest Fordham could resume practice is about March 5, --assuming that the test rate drops to 4.75% or less, and there are fewer than 10 new cases in the week ending Mar 3/4. (It may well be that if there were 100+ new cases at Fordham in the week ending Feb 25th, that Fordham would still have over 100 cases for the two week period ending March 3/4, and could not resume practice.)
Someone mentioned that NCAA rules, IIRC, require two full weeks of practice after a hiatus before game competition. If my recollection of the citation is correct, Fordham needs to resume practice on March 5.
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Post by hc2020 on Feb 27, 2021 17:22:46 GMT -5
hc2020 - what is your experience in this area? Have you known people infected? Have you known people with "long haul symptoms? Have you known people who have been hospitalized or who have died? I have known all of these, and it has made me more cautious, not less. A college population, such as Holy Cross, is at great risk of spread, which can explode quickly. That could and would really ruin the semester for so many, even if everyone recovers and has no long term problems (a big IF). If there is an error to be made, erring on the side of caution seems the most prudent to me. This semester and the two before that have already been really ruined for most college kids in America. As you know, there are seeious potential consequences to keeping a large percentage of 18-22 year olds locked up for a year. These same 18-22 year olds tend to have few or no symptoms if they do happen to contract the virus. I have a 15 yo and a 16 yo and I see the consequences of the virus on them every day even though neither has had the virus as far as we know.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 27, 2021 17:52:42 GMT -5
My school district, considering all the serious problems (psychological, academic, and otherwise) the kids were having, really wrestled with reopening in late August. They decided to err on the safe side and reopen. Our mental health professionals are certain we saved lives by doing so.
(Which doubtlessly floored those who believe ‘erring on the safe side’ means schools close.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 27, 2021 18:25:14 GMT -5
Several years ago, HC had to double, IIRC, the number of psychologists on the counseling staff because of demand. (Can't blame that on COVID.) And not all that long ago, one football player stabbed another at a party on City View. (Can't blame that on COVID either.)
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Post by cmo on Feb 27, 2021 19:16:30 GMT -5
Huh ?
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