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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:46:54 GMT -5
Does anyone have any thoughts or insights on how this new President may impact athletics?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 10, 2021 14:51:51 GMT -5
I feel that if our new president is being charged with expanding the Holy Cross brand, that successful athletics will play a major part in that expansion. An understanding of our past and our Jesuit tradition would never see athletics having a "free hand" but there could certainly be better coordination between athletics and academics.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 10, 2021 15:13:29 GMT -5
It's impossible for me to believe that athletics wasn't a significant part of the job interview.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 10, 2021 16:16:29 GMT -5
It's impossible for me to believe that athletics wasn't a significant part of the job interview. Job #1, #2, and #3 for any new college president is fundraising. Athletics probably isn't even in the top 50 items on the agenda.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 10, 2021 16:18:23 GMT -5
It's impossible for me to believe that athletics wasn't a significant part of the job interview. Job #1, #2, and #3 for any new college president is fundraising. Athletics probably isn't even in the top 50 items on the agenda. Explains why Georgetown's teams are struggling.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 10, 2021 16:27:34 GMT -5
I have a former student who is active in college fundraising. He says that athletics plays a major role in that fundraising. Athletics are found throughout #1, #2 and #3 at many colleges. It may not realistic to think that there are 50 things that will be more important in fundraising. If that has been true in the past at HC, that may have been part of our problem. The future may have suddenly gotten brighter fo9r both athletics and for the college as a whole.
PS: The former student has been a varsity coach and Assistant Athletic Director at the college level and that is how he got this fundraising gig.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 10, 2021 16:31:46 GMT -5
He's taught at the only two Catholic FBS schools.
HC has invested too much in upgrading its athletic facilities to de-emphasize athletics. Besides, the BoT has the final say.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 10, 2021 16:38:12 GMT -5
Having a wife who directly worked for the president of Brown University (our new president's undergraduate alma mater), and having known the last 4 or 5 Holy Cross presidents and one interim president all on at least speaking terms (which some of them probably came to dread), indeed fundraising is the single top priority of college and university presidents. That and shmoozing, the rich, famous and generous (hopefully some being all 3).
That said, I also know from direct discussions that athletics is most definitely way above the top 50 items on the agenda. Probably more like top 3 at Holy Cross for the very fact that athletics plays a huge role in Holy Cross fundraising.
FWIW, as Fr. B heads for the door, he left with a very large leg up for Vince in fundraising, the $23.5 M bequest from the late Mrs. Williams (R.I.P.).
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 10, 2021 16:55:57 GMT -5
I feel that there is a zero per cent chance that HC would hire a new president who wanted to de-emphasize athletics. Are we going to turn the Luth Center into an art gallery?
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 10, 2021 16:55:58 GMT -5
It's impossible for me to believe that athletics wasn't a significant part of the job interview. Job #1, #2, and #3 for any new college president is fundraising. Athletics probably isn't even in the top 50 items on the agenda. How better to get hundreds or thousands of alumni (and friends) on to the campus than by exciting (and winning) athletic programs? If you build them, they will come - and they'll bring their checkbooks.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 10, 2021 16:57:58 GMT -5
Well stated Ignutz...now from your mouth to God's ear.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 10, 2021 16:58:10 GMT -5
Job #1, #2, and #3 for any new college president is fundraising. Athletics probably isn't even in the top 50 items on the agenda. How better to get hundreds or thousands of alumni (and friends) on to the campus than by exciting (and winning) athletic programs? If you build them, they will come - and they'll bring their checkbooks. So, would you conclude that the schools with the richest athletic tradition also lead in fund raising?
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 10, 2021 17:04:37 GMT -5
How better to get hundreds or thousands of alumni (and friends) on to the campus than by exciting (and winning) athletic programs? If you build them, they will come - and they'll bring their checkbooks. So, would you conclude that the schools with the richest athletic tradition also lead in fund raising? Not necessarily, but we have an improved chance of spreading the brand and bringing in additional donations if we're winning games, traveling outside our typical athletics footprint, and appearing in the post-season - especially on the National stage.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 10, 2021 17:22:22 GMT -5
FWIW, he is a downhill skier, a kayaker, a hiker, a member of the board of the Boston Lyric Opera, and a cook. He studied a year in France (his surname is French), and the year in France made him a foodie.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 10, 2021 17:40:04 GMT -5
I saw the same thing when asked about his interests. I would feel a lot better if he had included the Red Sox or his BC Eagles sports teams or any favorite team that he roots for - I think we can say he’s probably not a big sports fan.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 10, 2021 17:53:17 GMT -5
Heresy to some.....who seem always trying to put a litmus test to determine if one is a foe or an ally to ones cause. Being a Red Sox is inconsequential to our discussion.
The sole measurement regarding his athletic interest, ....as of today, now being a Holy Cross fan across the panoply of Holy Cross athletics.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 10, 2021 17:56:55 GMT -5
From the sports in which he has participated, it may be a plus for HC's olympic sports.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 18:33:44 GMT -5
From the sports in which he has participated, it may be a plus for HC's olympic sports. When I attended HC, I always thought that anything outside of baseball, basketball, football, and m/w ice hockey was an intramural, club sport. There were athletes that were outliers participating in other sports, but time commitment was drastically different in comparison to the big 5. Lacrosse may have changed, but they were terrible when I was there.
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Post by trimster on Feb 10, 2021 18:43:48 GMT -5
I feel that there is a zero per cent chance that HC would hire a new president who wanted to de-emphasize athletics. Are we going to turn the Luth Center into an art gallery? One can only imagine what de-emphasis of the athletic program would look like. D 3 I guess.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Feb 10, 2021 19:13:29 GMT -5
HC makes a institutional change that positions the college in a very positive direction for leadership,...... and we still have the Eeyores appear on Crossports worried about HC going in an athletic direction that was rejected during the late 1990’s after a comprehensive study.
HC institutional identity is its participation as a school participating in the D1 level of the NCAA. Short of mandates and structural guidelines being implemented by the NCAA that will change the current qualifications for D1, I do not envision HC moving to D3 in the foreseeable future.
I am optimistic that the BOT has made objectively sound decisions regarding our most recent additions during the last three years to the HC community.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 10, 2021 19:16:42 GMT -5
Does anyone have any thoughts or insights on how this new President may impact athletics? The new generation of academic leaders, like those in the past, must raise money. If my prayers are answered, one of his early meetings will be with Marcus Blossom If that is the case, and the questions asked are - Will the alums financially support athletics? What changes if any do you recommend? What is a reasonable timeframe for any change? What are the different scenarios for these changes and what impact might each have on funding? Who do I need to talk to in the sports world to make that happen? Who is the best sports advocate on the board? Who else should I place on the board? Which alums have the greatest impact on the board? And 40 plus years later tradition returns🏀🏈⚾️ and the💰💰💰💰 come to the treasury The rest of my emojis froze-didnt want to eliminate the other sports
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Post by trimster on Feb 10, 2021 19:33:25 GMT -5
HC makes a institutional change that positions the college in a very positive direction for leadership,...... and we still have the Eeyores appear on Crossports worried about HC going in an athletic direction that was rejected during the late 1990’s after a comprehensive study. HC institutional identity is its participation as a school participating in the D1 level of the NCAA. Short of mandates and structural guidelines being implemented by the NCAA that will change the current qualifications for D1, I do not envision HC moving to D3 in the foreseeable future. I am optimistic that the BOT has made objectively sound decisions regarding our most recent additions during the last three years to the HC community. I am really not worried about HC going to D3. I guess I did a poor job of pointing out athletics has been deemphasized so much from where the programs were in the 70’s in hoops and football in the 80’s, there isn’t a whole lot more deemphasis that could be done. I have no idea what the new President thinks of the role of athletics at HC and in the college landscape in general. I do wish him well at HC.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 10, 2021 22:22:19 GMT -5
I noticed that someone just signed up for Crossports using the name "NewPrezVDR"--guessing that has to be our new president, Dr Rougeau. I've got to take that as a good sign that he really is interested in sports.
EDIT: Apologies to all-- I thought everyone would see this as an obvious put-on, the thought of the new president signing up for Crossports on Day One would be quite an absurdity., wouldn't it?
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 10, 2021 22:53:56 GMT -5
Does anyone have any thoughts or insights on how this new President may impact athletics? The new generation of academic leaders, like those in the past, must raise money. If my prayers are answered, one of his early meetings will be with Marcus Blossom If that is the case, and the questions asked are - Will the alums financially support athletics? What changes if any do you recommend? What is a reasonable timeframe for any change? What are the different scenarios for these changes and what impact might each have on funding? Who do I need to talk to in the sports world to make that happen? Who is the best sports advocate on the board? Who else should I place on the board? Which alums have the greatest impact on the board? And 40 plus years later tradition returns🏀🏈⚾️ and the💰💰💰💰 come to the treasury The rest of my emojis froze-didnt want to eliminate the other sports Early meeting with MB: Vincent: The budgets for each sport seem awfully low. Marcus: Well yes, compared to when we both were at BC. Vincent: OK, raise them to BC's level and we'll try that for five years. Also, I've never heard of some of these schools we play. Upgrade the schedules please.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 10, 2021 22:57:54 GMT -5
I noticed that someone just signed up for Crossports using the name "NewPrezVDR"--guessing that has to be our new president, Dr Rougeau. I've got to take that as a good sign that he really is interested in sports. I would be surprised if our new President would sign up for Crossports and, if he did, I’d be really surprised if the name he chose was NewPrezVDR. We shall see.
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