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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:10:37 GMT -5
After CU scored the first basket of the half, HC goes on 13-0 run - lead 43-30 on a Demski 3
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2021 14:12:56 GMT -5
When Ezemma has one of her patened block/takeaways, how is it scored? [br Must be scored as a block as Oluchi has one block and no steals according to live stats.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:14:25 GMT -5
HC 15-0 run final over as CU scores 45-32
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:16:07 GMT -5
HC 48- 34 on Demski 3
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:19:22 GMT -5
After 3, HC 50-34 - HC played much better -CU not so much. Demski leads w/ 8. OE w/ 6in the qtr
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2021 14:21:24 GMT -5
The downside of making ten passes to hold the ball for the last shot, at the bottom of the PL WBB skill level, is exactly what happened to Colgate on the last possession. With each pass you could see the chances of that strategy working drop. Tight, enthusiastic defense by HC of course contributed to/caused the turnover.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:28:52 GMT -5
HC 56-38 half way through the 3rd on a Cross layup
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:31:38 GMT -5
Both teams on an extend scoring drought of over 2 mins at the media timeout HC still 56-36 w4+ to go
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:35:35 GMT -5
P-C w/ a quick 5 pts after the time out HC 61-38
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Feb 13, 2021 14:37:07 GMT -5
When Ezemma has one of her patened block/takeaways, how is it scored? [br Must be scored as a block as Oluchi has one block and no steals according to live stats. The block would be credited and, since it was a shot that she blocked, she would also be credited with the rebound if she secures the block.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:39:05 GMT -5
HC clears the bench (to the extent they can) lead 61-40
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Post by HC13 on Feb 13, 2021 14:44:22 GMT -5
Final HC 61-40, makes the bus ride home a lot nicer. P-C 13, 5 rebs, AL 12, 6 rebs, OE 12/9, Demski 10/4 Real nice game by P-C & Demski
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2021 14:44:35 GMT -5
[br Must be scored as a block as Oluchi has one block and no steals according to live stats. The block would be credited and, since it was a shot that she blocked, she would also be credited with the rebound if she secures the block. Thanks. I never considered rebound as I was wondering whether it was a steal or a block. Credit for a block and rebound seems equitable because if a player gets an offensive rebound and puts it back up, he/she gets credit for both the rebound and fg.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2021 16:17:21 GMT -5
When Ezemma has one of her patened block/takeaways, how is it scored? [br Must be scored as a block as Oluchi has one block and no steals according to live stats. Here is the rule from the Statisticians' Manual: A blocked shot is credited to a defensive player any time the player makes contact with the ball to appreciably alter the flight of a FGA and the shot is not made and goaltending is not called, or while a player is in the obvious act of shooting, the ball is stuffed or knocked loose before it is in flight and no foul is called. In addition to being in the obvious act of shooting, the shooting hand must be moving toward the basket in the shooting position or the shooter must be airborne and moving toward the basket with the intention of a dunk or layup and the ball must be in position for the shot. If there is doubt about whether the player was in the act of shooting, the interpretation shall be that he or she was not
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 13, 2021 21:56:00 GMT -5
No game on Sunday as Colgate has fallen below the minimum number of players that have to be available to play
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 13, 2021 22:26:16 GMT -5
It wasn't that long ago that some teams would play just 5 players for almost the entire game. Ridiculous that HC has to trek all the way out to Hamilton for one game in this Covid shortened season. Where are the walk ons? Colgate should call BC.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 13, 2021 23:25:17 GMT -5
The block would be credited and, since it was a shot that she blocked, she would also be credited with the rebound if she secures the block. Thanks. I never considered rebound as I was wondering whether it was a steal or a block. Credit for a block and rebound seems equitable because if a player gets an offensive rebound and puts it back up, he/she gets credit for both the rebound and fg. Statistically speaking, every shot has to have some sort of rebound attached to it. Doesn't matter if it is a blocked shot, an airball that goes OB, a miss that is deflected by six different players and bounces on the floor, a shot in the air as time expires, or a missed FT.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 14, 2021 7:24:56 GMT -5
Thanks. I never considered rebound as I was wondering whether it was a steal or a block. Credit for a block and rebound seems equitable because if a player gets an offensive rebound and puts it back up, he/she gets credit for both the rebound and fg. Statistically speaking, every shot has to have some sort of rebound attached to it. Doesn't matter if it is a blocked shot, an airball that goes OB, a miss that is deflected by six different players and bounces on the floor, a shot in the air as time expires, or a missed FT. Interesting. How do you score the rebound on the shot in the air as time expires? I might start telling my boys to chase those down and hand them to the ref if there’s some stat-padding to be had.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 14, 2021 8:13:33 GMT -5
No game on Sunday as Colgate has fallen below the minimum number of players that have to be available to play That may be true, but announcing it when they are actually playing a game at home with 8 players and saying there will not be enough the next day when the same 8 are available seems a bit odd. Could the distance to Worcester and the likely outcome also have been factors in the cancellation?
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 14, 2021 8:24:21 GMT -5
No game on Sunday as Colgate has fallen below the minimum number of players that have to be available to play That may be true, but announcing it when they are actually playing a game at home with 8 players and saying there will not be enough the next day when the same 8 are available seems a bit odd. Could the distance to Worcester and the likely outcome also have been factors in the cancellation? Distance to Worcester not a factor; game was to be played in Hamilton which makes the decision even more baffling.
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Post by HC13 on Feb 14, 2021 10:12:29 GMT -5
At this stage, I'm surprised the Colgate just hasn't shut down for the remainder of the season. Cleary's post game comments might be interpreted that this was a decision made over his head. I thought that CU put in a creditable effort & unfortunately for them, nothing in the second have went in, to many missed layups.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 14, 2021 12:44:08 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, every shot has to have some sort of rebound attached to it. Doesn't matter if it is a blocked shot, an airball that goes OB, a miss that is deflected by six different players and bounces on the floor, a shot in the air as time expires, or a missed FT. Interesting. How do you score the rebound on the shot in the air as time expires? I might start telling my boys to chase those down and hand them to the ref if there’s some stat-padding to be had. Dead ball rebound. The use of two categories, dead ball rebounds and team rebounds, allow the stats to balance. The first check a statistician makes it to assure that every missed shot and missed FTA has some kind of rebound assigned to it.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 14, 2021 13:41:51 GMT -5
Thanks, 137.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 14, 2021 14:13:36 GMT -5
Thanks Bison, before your explanation I probably would have said a team rebound is when two teammates come down with the ball together and one, sometimes a tad reluctantly, surrenders it to the other. Is that a judgement call by the scorekeeper (is statistician interchangeable with scorekeeper?) as to who to credit the rebound to or is it a team rebound? Or is even that a judgement call as long as the shots and rebounds balance out?
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Post by bison137 on Feb 14, 2021 15:01:41 GMT -5
Thanks Bison, before your explanation I probably would have said a team rebound is when two teammates come down with the ball together and one, sometimes a tad reluctantly, surrenders it to the other. Is that a judgement call by the scorekeeper (is statistician interchangeable with scorekeeper?) as to who to credit the rebound to or is it a team rebound? Or is even that a judgement call as long as the shots and rebounds balance out? In your scenario, it is a judgement call as to who was more responsible for getting the rebound. But it is never a team rebound. That category is reserved for shots that go out of bounds without being controlled by a player. It can be an air ball that goes straight OB or a missed shot that deflects off of one or more players or a blocked shot that goes OB. Etc.
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