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Post by timholycross on Feb 14, 2021 19:57:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarifications, folks; it does raise the question as to why anyone cares whether or not it's one of those two or the other. If it were one category instead of two it would still tie everything out at the end of the ballgame.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 14, 2021 20:03:10 GMT -5
American which is clearly a better team than as many as 3 other teams (Loyola, Colgate, Lafayette; certainly 2 of these), only has 11 games scheduled. Unless the rules were changed, they're ineligible for the playoffs, I believe. So two of the 3 schools listed above will get into the tournament and HC will be no worse than sixth.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 14, 2021 22:54:05 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarifications, folks; it does raise the question as to why anyone cares whether or not it's one of those two or the other. If it were one category instead of two it would still tie everything out at the end of the ballgame. Actually there is a big difference. A team rebound means a team ended up winning possession of the ball. When looking at rebound margin, all team rebounds count just as much as any rebound attributed to an individual. League and national rebounding stats and differentials include team rebounds. In contrast, dead ball rebounds are truly a balancing mechanism. Neither team really won possession of the ball on a dead ball rebound, and they do not get listed in the rebounding totals when comparing which team had the better rebounding numbers. The two most common dead ball rebounds are generated by (1) shots in the air when time runs out; (2) a missed FT throw when the shooter still has another one coming. In these cases, no team won possession of the ball and the clock was not running, so they don't count in a team's rebounding numbers. This is how the NCAA explains it: "Why keep dead-ball rebounds? Because team rebounds reflect team rebounding ability, while dead-ball rebounds do not. In national rankings, individual and team
rebounds are included, but dead-ball rebounds are not. Analysis of game statistics indicates that each—team and dead-ball rebounds—accounts for about five percent of
a team’s rebounds. Therefore, if dead-ball rebounds are counted as team rebounds, it could affect the national rankings." |
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Post by bison137 on Feb 14, 2021 23:03:59 GMT -5
American which is clearly a better team than as many as 3 other teams (Loyola, Colgate, Lafayette; certainly 2 of these), only has 11 games scheduled. Unless the rules were changed, they're ineligible for the playoffs, I believe. So two of the 3 schools listed above will get into the tournament and HC will be no worse than sixth. Two things could affect AU's situation - and some others. First, the PL is planning to squeeze in at least one more game for some teams after February 28th, which is currently the last date with scheduled games. There is a full week between the last game currently on the schedule and the start of the PLT (which is tentatively set for Sunday March 7th. And that March 7th date could be pushed back one or two days, if necessary, to assure teams get in 12+ games and all of their divisional games. Secondly, it is my understanding that the PL and others have requested waivers from the NCAA on their minimum games requirement, at least for teams that win their league tournaments. |
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 15, 2021 7:50:44 GMT -5
Heck if they do it for Ohio State, why not the PL?  |
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