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Post by purplehaze on Feb 23, 2021 9:49:02 GMT -5
With this season not counting toward eligibility and assuming Austin and Matt are moving on (PL and HC will not grant a 5th year), they are both playing for a grad transfer season elsewhere. Do we think they are being looked at by other mid-majors that have an open schollie ? We have 3 baseball players who graduated in May who are playing 5th years - Masel and Rinaldi are at Richmond and Livingston is at Gonzaga (and lax grad O'Connell is at Duke)
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Post by newfieguy74 on Feb 23, 2021 10:08:01 GMT -5
I wish there was a way for them to come back for another year but I guess that door is closed. I hope they achieve whatever dreams they have for that 5th year. I would think they'd have some good options. They're both high caliber high achieving people. I wish them the best.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2021 10:14:34 GMT -5
...I echo those feelings. Also they have someone who has successfully done what you describe...Coach R.J.Evans. If they decide to do this, I would want to follow them as they continue with hoops and get a master's degree as well. Whatever their path, I pray for their success.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 23, 2021 12:36:04 GMT -5
I have to assume they’d both be interested in a free year of grad school and a chance to keep playing. Some football players in the same boat.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 23, 2021 13:16:49 GMT -5
Going to be a lot of competition for those grad player spots. Remember nearly every team has guys coming back that they weren't expecting back before the rules changed.
Hope they land somewhere if they each want to.
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Post by Tom on Feb 23, 2021 13:50:52 GMT -5
Going to be a lot of competition for those grad player spots. Remember nearly every team has guys coming back that they weren't expecting back before the rules changed. Hope they land somewhere if they each want to. Nearly every team has guys eligible to come back that weren't expected. I can't believe nearly every school has open scholarship spots after getting verbal commits. Even if the school and the Patriot League allowed it, there's no room in the inn for Matt and Austin next year without reneging on someone else's scholarship
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 23, 2021 14:25:14 GMT -5
If they were planning to go to grad school anyway, why not play w/o a scholarship? Having the coach on your side would certainly help getting into a top notch grad school.
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Post by dharry13 on Feb 23, 2021 14:54:34 GMT -5
Great point ndgradbuthcfan. They just went 4 years for free. Even if it means picking up the tab for 1 year, but playing a 5th year while getting your grad degree. Zero lose option.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 23, 2021 18:10:08 GMT -5
Going to be a lot of competition for those grad player spots. Remember nearly every team has guys coming back that they weren't expecting back before the rules changed. Hope they land somewhere if they each want to. Nearly every team has guys eligible to come back that weren't expected. I can't believe nearly every school has open scholarship spots after getting verbal commits. Even if the school and the Patriot League allowed it, there's no room in the inn for Matt and Austin next year without reneging on someone else's scholarship I don't know what the PL has decided on this issue. Nor do I know how HC would handle it. But the NCAA has said that schools may exceed the scholarship max for the upcoming year to accommodate players who stay for an extra year.
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Post by trimster on Feb 23, 2021 18:49:06 GMT -5
Nearly every team has guys eligible to come back that weren't expected. I can't believe nearly every school has open scholarship spots after getting verbal commits. Even if the school and the Patriot League allowed it, there's no room in the inn for Matt and Austin next year without reneging on someone else's scholarship I don't know what the PL has decided on this issue. Nor do I know how HC would handle it. But the NCAA has said that schools may exceed the scholarship max for the upcoming year to accommodate players who stay for an extra year. It seems to me this will be a multi-year situation since this year doesn’t count in terms of used eligibility, for everyone on the roster. As things stand right now, the biggest impact on HC will be in 3 years when 6 players will graduate with a year of eligibility on the books. That assumes no one transfers and all 6 progress normally toward graduation in 2024. Obviously, a lot can happen between now and them.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 23, 2021 19:20:35 GMT -5
Unchartered waters for sure.
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Post by trimster on Feb 23, 2021 19:31:36 GMT -5
Unchartered waters for sure. According to the NCAA, HC will have nine as in 9 freshmen on next year’s roster. How the college and the PL view them will probably be a different matter.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2021 19:41:28 GMT -5
That will not be an issue for at least 3 more years
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Post by hcpride on Feb 23, 2021 19:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by trimster on Feb 23, 2021 20:00:25 GMT -5
That will not be an issue for at least 3 more years I suspect by PL and/or HC standards, the roster will have 6 sophs and 3 frosh next year.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 23, 2021 20:40:54 GMT -5
That will not be an issue for at least 3 more years Yes, but it will require planning much earlier. If the NCAA will only allow 13 scholarships in all seasons other than the 2021-22 season, then some of this year's freshmen cannot be kept for five years - even if the PL allows it (and I'm not sure they will).
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2021 21:41:54 GMT -5
Uncharted waters, yes
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 24, 2021 9:34:36 GMT -5
Love the idea of using the option of basketball as a hook to upgrade the quality of grad school you can be accepted at. M.I.T., Johns Hopkins, etc. ,are schools that don't give athletic scholarships but do play basketball. I'm sure the MBB coach would love to see Matt or Austin walk through that door. I'm assuming the NCAA extra year of eligibility extends to D-3.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 24, 2021 11:32:30 GMT -5
I think Matt and Austin would be dominant players in D-3, but can you just hear one of our most confident posters saying: "See, I told you AB belonged in D-3"
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 24, 2021 15:43:40 GMT -5
If Matt and Austin want to play as a grad transfer, I'd think they would want to go someplace where there is a good chance of playing in the NCAA'a.. Both are competitive, similar to what coach Evans did...
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 24, 2021 16:16:15 GMT -5
If they intend to play next year somewhere, wouldn’t we expect to see their names in the transfer portal ? Plenty of names there already but maybe they’re waiting for our season to end
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 24, 2021 16:30:58 GMT -5
...or perhaps they would like an encore at HC?
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Post by bison137 on Feb 24, 2021 16:43:17 GMT -5
Love the idea of using the option of basketball as a hook to upgrade the quality of grad school you can be accepted at. M.I.T., Johns Hopkins, etc. ,are schools that don't give athletic scholarships but do play basketball. I'm sure the MBB coach would love to see Matt or Austin walk through that door. I'm assuming the NCAA extra year of eligibility extends to D-3. Yes, it does. But I doubt their leagues would allow a transfer grad student to play.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Feb 24, 2021 17:39:03 GMT -5
They obviously both love to play hoops and HC so just stay where they are, get a second degree and pay for the privilege.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 24, 2021 17:39:41 GMT -5
I do not think grad students play d-3 (as an exception you might participate if it is also your undergraduate school).
I don’t see Matt and Austin playing at a college next year.
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