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Post by hchoops on Mar 1, 2021 9:44:01 GMT -5
From The Athletic’s Seth Davis
Steve Lappas has watched a lot of college basketball during his many years as a coach and broadcaster, but when Michigan ran a fullcourt inbounds play with all five offensive players starting off out of bounds against Ohio State on Feb. 21, Lappas tweeted that he had never seen that formation. Wolverines coach Juwan Howard got the idea from Dave Metzendorf, who was the team’s video coordinator last season.
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 1, 2021 9:50:37 GMT -5
From The Athletic’s Seth Davis Steve Lappas has watched a lot of college basketball during his many years as a coach and broadcaster, but when Michigan ran a fullcourt inbounds play with all five offensive players starting off out of bounds against Ohio State on Feb. 21, Lappas tweeted that he had never seen that formation. Wolverines coach Juwan Howard got the idea from Dave Metzendorf, who was the team’s video coordinator last season. Navy ran the same yesterday against Loyola's press at end of game
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Post by timholycross on Mar 1, 2021 11:22:26 GMT -5
Can't find the video, can someone post it?
w/o seeing it, if it's after a made basket; there's nothing to stop a team from passing it once, twice or even 3 times (yes, it'd probably be a stretch to pass it 3 times within the 5 second count) to players who are behind the end line. Or is it something else?
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 1, 2021 11:57:25 GMT -5
Can't find the video, can someone post it? w/o seeing it, if it's after a made basket; there's nothing to stop a team from passing it once, twice or even 3 times (yes, it'd probably be a stretch to pass it 3 times within the 5 second count) to players who are behind the end line. Or is it something else? go to the last minute of the ESPN+ replay
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 1, 2021 15:48:46 GMT -5
Quite the move by Metzendorf leaving Michigan for the Princeton West bleep-show in Colorado Springs...
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 1, 2021 15:55:46 GMT -5
Can't find the video, can someone post it? w/o seeing it, if it's after a made basket; there's nothing to stop a team from passing it once, twice or even 3 times (yes, it'd probably be a stretch to pass it 3 times within the 5 second count) to players who are behind the end line. Or is it something else? Ball on one side of the hoop, the 4 other players line up across the end line on the other side. All 4 break at the same time and run different routes! The player running the square in got the ball usually.. Different, I like it. But not so good after a made hoop, time is a factor....After a timeout or a dead ball it works great
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 1, 2021 23:24:29 GMT -5
Quite the move by Metzendorf leaving Michigan for the Princeton West bleep-show in Colorado Springs... Former HC coaches, Scott and Metzendorf are on CBS College Sports tonight. Air Force against Colorado State.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 1, 2021 23:41:33 GMT -5
Quite the move by Metzendorf leaving Michigan for the Princeton West bleep-show in Colorado Springs... Obviously a much worse team. But he did go from about #7 on the Michigan staff to being the #2 assistant coach at Air Force.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 2, 2021 0:27:19 GMT -5
Quite the move by Metzendorf leaving Michigan for the Princeton West bleep-show in Colorado Springs... Former HC coaches, Scott and Metzendorf are on CBS College Sports tonight. Air Force against Colorado State. Colorado State 74 Air Force 44 Colorado State: 18-27 (66.7%) on 2FGs, 15 ORebs on 32 missed FGs (46.8%). Who could have ever seen this coming?!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2021 0:30:07 GMT -5
Just absolutely too funny
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Post by timholycross on Mar 2, 2021 9:22:39 GMT -5
Can't find the video, can someone post it? w/o seeing it, if it's after a made basket; there's nothing to stop a team from passing it once, twice or even 3 times (yes, it'd probably be a stretch to pass it 3 times within the 5 second count) to players who are behind the end line. Or is it something else? Ball on one side of the hoop, the 4 other players line up across the end line on the other side. All 4 break at the same time and run different routes! The player running the square in got the ball usually.. Different, I like it. But not so good after a made hoop, time is a factor....After a timeout or a dead ball it works great Is it really any different than having a stack in the middle of the court and the 4 players break off? The big difference seems to be that the defense would probably be left vulnerable for a deep pass if they got suckered into all coming up to mark the guys on or behind the baseline.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 2, 2021 9:52:43 GMT -5
Can't find the video, can someone post it? w/o seeing it, if it's after a made basket; there's nothing to stop a team from passing it once, twice or even 3 times (yes, it'd probably be a stretch to pass it 3 times within the 5 second count) to players who are behind the end line. Or is it something else? I saw it a couple of times last season. Here is a video of Baylor's version from 2020: . I think its biggest plus may simply be the element of surprise. Defenders have never seen it before and aren't sure how to react. It really shouldn't be harder to guard than a number of standard inbound plays.
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 2, 2021 14:04:05 GMT -5
Ball on one side of the hoop, the 4 other players line up across the end line on the other side. All 4 break at the same time and run different routes! The player running the square in got the ball usually.. Different, I like it. But not so good after a made hoop, time is a factor....After a timeout or a dead ball it works great Is it really any different than having a stack in the middle of the court and the 4 players break off? The big difference seems to be that the defense would probably be left vulnerable for a deep pass if they got suckered into all coming up to mark the guys on or behind the baseline. With a "stick" in the middle,the players move toward the ball. With the 4 on the baseline, the players move away from the ball then make a cut..Much more difficult to guard against 2 moves....Just a different look, something teams haven't seen that they have to prepare for...It is different and that is the draw to it..
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 2, 2021 14:14:21 GMT -5
As a former coach, I strived to have different inbounds plays and press breaks...It makes defending more difficult because it is different...Every team has a bunch of special plays for key situations..Years ago, I went to a coaches clinic that had a clinician , Bob Staak of Wake Forest at the time, who spent an hour diagraming inbound plays as requested by the coaches in attendance. It was a fascinating hour! I picked up a number of plays that I put into practice, won a few games with them as last second specials....Navy probably has some versions of their set to score late in games!
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