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Post by hc2020 on Mar 1, 2021 18:59:24 GMT -5
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Post by richh on Mar 3, 2021 15:53:58 GMT -5
Sums it up. Lots of QBs. But no QB named yet. Beesmer may be the pick with the most experience. Wilkinson the 3* transfer likely a contender.Lots of experience and talentat RB,WR and TE. Gilmore's main issue is the OL. Last yr the OL asst never made up his mind on units or even spots. A revolving door at every position.New OL asst seems to jave stabilized unit in camp. Will it be any good? Dunmo D will be good and if players can stay healthy for once it will be very good.Good enough if O implodes like last year? Probably not.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 3, 2021 18:18:08 GMT -5
Do you believe that you are the 5th place team that you are predicted to be ?
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Post by richh on Mar 3, 2021 18:42:38 GMT -5
Do you believe that you are the 5th place team that you are predicted to be ? Not really. Last year really an aberration. I could rehash all the issues but I've done that often enuf. 5 Ls by a TD or less. D will be as good as last yr. Our sole key is whether O scores points.I suspect from what I've seen that O will be improved.OL has been set by new OL coach. Just need to pick a QB.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 3, 2021 19:12:36 GMT -5
Lehigh will be a contender this spring and ensuing fall.
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Post by lehighowl on Mar 3, 2021 20:48:28 GMT -5
I think 5th or even 6th place is a reasonable expectation given the issues at QB and OL combined with a coach who has one winning season in his last 7 years.
Lehigh's OL was atrocious in 2019. Heading into the spring there isn't much depth or experience to give a major boost of confidence about the front five. Plus, the OL hasn't been the same since a proven OL coach left a few years ago. The QB pecking order seems to be anyone's guess this year which is not a good sign. The offense in 2019 had little big play ability and was painful to watch at times. The Merrimack game set football back 15 years. I get Portorreal but outside of him there's not much production returning at WR. Hill and Allen have the potential to be a very good RB duo but the OL and passing attack has to produce to open things up.
Holy Cross should roll imo. They have the MUCH better coach and the better team top to bottom. Plus, they're at home....
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 3, 2021 21:13:19 GMT -5
How much different will two home games and two away make? Don't they start on the road at Lehigh?
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Post by hc2020 on Mar 3, 2021 21:58:21 GMT -5
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Post by lehighowl on Mar 3, 2021 22:29:17 GMT -5
How much different will two home games and two away make? Don't they start on the road at Lehigh? You're right! The game is at Goodman! The last Lehigh sporting event I attended of any kind was the Holy Cross game in 2019. It was ingrained in my mind the meeting next week was in Worcester. Holy Cross should be quite good. I think a coach of Chesney's ilk will thrive under these unique circumstances. They should be getting more Top 25 love imo. Especially with the Montana schools and Ivy Leaguers bowing out. I also like Bucknell and Colgate. Fordham might have the most talented roster imo but they're stuck in a coaching malaise. They need their next Clawson or Moorhead for the Rams to reach their potential. Lafayette, likely another losing season....
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 4, 2021 0:48:57 GMT -5
How much different will two home games and two away make? Don't they start on the road at Lehigh? I also like Bucknell and Colgate. Fordham might have the most talented roster imo but they're stuck in a coaching malaise. They need their next Clawson or Moorhead for the Rams to reach their potential. Lafayette, likely another losing season.... Frank Tavani was a league-wide punching bag for many years but he kept Lafayette in the conversation. John Garrett's winning percentage (10-24, .294) is now the lowest on College Hill since Kenneth Bunn from 1963-66 (7-28-2, .243). Was adding scholarships fulfilling the law of unintended consequences? Instead of opening up the PL race and raising the stature of the league competitively, it's done the opposite. The gap between the haves (Fordham, HC, Lehigh, Colgate), the have-nots (Bucknell, Lafayette), and the never-had-it (Georgetown) is as wide as ever.
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Post by dharry13 on Mar 4, 2021 8:33:54 GMT -5
I'm not so sure it's that wide with Georgetown with the last 2/3 recruiting classes they have put together most specifically the last 2. Granted it's all on paper but they are poised to be better with their roster improving substantially over the last two classes.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 4, 2021 10:30:43 GMT -5
Don't see Georgetown as a patsy by any means at this point.
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Post by richh on Mar 4, 2021 11:12:17 GMT -5
I think 5th or even 6th place is a reasonable expectation given the issues at QB and OL combined with a coach who has one winning season in his last 7 years. Lehigh's OL was atrocious in 2019. Heading into the spring there isn't much depth or experience to give a major boost of confidence about the front five. Plus, the OL hasn't been the same since a proven OL coach left a few years ago. The QB pecking order seems to be anyone's guess this year which is not a good sign. The offense in 2019 had little big play ability and was painful to watch at times. The Merrimack game set football back 15 years. I get Portorreal but outside of him there's not much production returning at WR. Hill and Allen have the potential to be a very good RB duo but the OL and passing attack has to produce to open things up. Holy Cross should roll imo. They have the MUCH better coach and the better team top to bottom. Plus, they're at home.... Cant disagree. We see the same facts from slightly different viewpoints. Jorge not likely for Cross game. No clearance yet. Well see. New OL coach does seem to have stabilized the line. Would be nice to have Sawyer or Marino but new coach appears solid. Sawyer and Marino started out as new guys also. Hopeful. WR unit not that barren. Burbage and Dambach both good.Smith and Miner are talents to watch. QB unit will shake up this week from what I've learned. Gonna be interesting. Tom has the choice of an experienced, if limited, QB or a talented newcomer.
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Post by hc2020 on Mar 4, 2021 15:13:01 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 5, 2021 7:25:15 GMT -5
DFW,
Georgetown been more competitive in the PL post-scholarships than they were pre-scholarships. Bucknell continues to be the proverbial 5th place team that they've always been. Lafayette continues to somehow always go 0-5 out of conference and then compete for the conference championship.
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Post by richh on Mar 5, 2021 12:08:41 GMT -5
Hoyas are not the cupcake of yore. Why? Better targetted recruiting;better need funding and a more slots for recruits. I track recruiting. The kids recruited have markedly better offer sheets over the last 3 years. Comparable to top Ivies. Historically Hoyas would get some top talent every year.There was a stark drop off in talent beyond those few. No longer. The OL recruited now are kids most of us were recruiting as well as Ivies and Academies. Up until a few years ago GU did not announce until admission acceptances went out for frosh class. Now it announce on the Signing Days. Clearly, GU now allows recruits to be admitted in a pool separate from that of the entering class.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 5, 2021 18:05:59 GMT -5
Hoyas are not the cupcake of yore. Why? Better targetted recruiting;better need funding and a more slots for recruits. I track recruiting. The kids recruited have markedly better offer sheets over the last 3 years. Comparable to top Ivies. Historically Hoyas would get some top talent every year.There was a stark drop off in talent beyond those few. No longer. The OL recruited now are kids most of us were recruiting as well as Ivies and Academies. Up until a few years ago GU did not announce until admission acceptances went out for frosh class. Now it announce on the Signing Days. Clearly, GU now allows recruits to be admitted in a pool separate from that of the entering class. This can only help the PL.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 6, 2021 0:00:04 GMT -5
This can only help the PL. Not if they can't schedule out of conference, which is another topic entirely. But as to competitiveness, they lost a ton from 2020 and 2021's senior classes. Sixty percent of the roster this fall has never played a down in college.
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Post by richh on Mar 6, 2021 10:28:10 GMT -5
This can only help the PL. Not if they can't schedule out of conference, which is another topic entirely. But as to competitiveness, they lost a ton from 2020 and 2021's senior classes. Sixty percent of the roster this fall has never played a down in college. Join the crowd. Most rosters will be underclassmen rich next year. For Spring the biggest edge will go to Gate and Cross just on experienced players not to forget talent. While grateful to have a season at all, realistically it will be more of an extended Spring practice with 4 scrimmages. I expect TG will rotate in all of Lehigh's frosh/soph classes a lot.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 6, 2021 10:55:27 GMT -5
Not scrimmages for the team that goes on to the FCS playoffs
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Post by lehighowl on Mar 6, 2021 11:41:51 GMT -5
A pretty well connected 'Nova alum believes Coach Ferrante is going to play their starters about a quarter today against Stony Brook. Villanova will be treating the spring season like preseason. I'm obviously interested to see if this happens. Overall, its's clear not everyone is onboard with spring football.
We could have some historically ugly scores if certain teams don't "go all in" for 60 minutes. I wonder if a running clock/ending games early becomes part of the spring season.
I really don't believe the Lehigh-HC game will be competitive at all. Given HC's mindset and Lehigh's apparent spring season indifference (along with not being very good) you could see a 40-50 (or worse) point margin easily. The Crusaders appear hungry to make a statement to the PL and the rest of FCS this spring. Maybe that will "springboard" Chesney into a FBS gig for the fall....
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 6, 2021 11:45:51 GMT -5
These games count just as much in the record books as any game from last year or last decade. I cannot believe a coach would do anything other than go all out to win and burnish his record.
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 6, 2021 11:47:50 GMT -5
A pretty well connected 'Nova alum believes Coach Ferrante is going to play their starters about a quarter today against Stony Brook. Villanova will be treating the spring season like preseason. I'm obviously interested to see if this happens. Overall, its's clear not everyone is onboard with spring football. We could have some historically ugly scores if certain teams don't "go all in" for 60 minutes. I wonder if a running clock/ending games early becomes part of the spring season. I really don't believe the Lehigh-HC game will be competitive at all. Given HC's mindset and Lehigh's apparent spring season indifference (along with not being very good) you could see a 40-50 (or worse) point margin easily. The Crusaders appear hungry to make a statement to the PL and the rest of FCS this spring. Maybe that will "springboard" Chesney into a FBS gig for the fall.... BITE YOUR TONGUE!
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Post by hchoops on Mar 6, 2021 17:08:20 GMT -5
A pretty well connected 'Nova alum believes Coach Ferrante is going to play their starters about a quarter today against Stony Brook. Villanova will be treating the spring season like preseason. I'm obviously interested to see if this happens. Overall, its's clear not everyone is onboard with spring football. We could have some historically ugly scores if certain teams don't "go all in" for 60 minutes. I wonder if a running clock/ending games early becomes part of the spring season. I really don't believe the Lehigh-HC game will be competitive at all. Given HC's mindset and Lehigh's apparent spring season indifference (along with not being very good) you could see a 40-50 (or worse) point margin easily. The Crusaders appear hungry to make a statement to the PL and the rest of FCS this spring. Maybe that will "springboard" Chesney into a FBS gig for the fall.... Nice try
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Post by hc87 on Mar 6, 2021 17:34:10 GMT -5
It will be interesting how different coaches/programs approach this Spring season...I can see how different programs would/will take varying approaches to it given their roster experience/depth etc.
My "take"...most are going to approach this as a "glorified Spring practice" type of season. We shall see.
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