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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2021 14:35:57 GMT -5
Austin Butler makes second team, Gerrale Gates makes third team, and RJ Johnson makes the all-rookie team
All-Patriot League First Team
Santi Aldama, Loyola (Md.), So., F
Jordan Burns, Colgate, Sr., G
Cam Davis, Navy, Sr., G
Jamir Harris, American, Sr., G
Justin Jaworski, Lafayette, Sr., G
All-Patriot League Second Team
Austin Butler, Holy Cross, Sr., G
Nelly Cummings, Colgate, Jr., G
Lonnie Grayson, Army West Point, Sr., G
Javante McCoy, Boston University, Sr., G
E.J. Stephens, Lafayette, Sr., G
All-Patriot League Third Team
Gerrale Gates, Holy Cross, Jr., F
John Meeks, Bucknell, Sr., F
Tucker Richardson, Colgate, Jr., G
Walter Whyte, Boston University, Jr. F
Marques Wilson, Lehigh, Sr., G
Patriot League All-Defensive Team
Stacy Beckton., American, Sr., G
Josh Caldwell, Army West Point, Jr. G
Jonas Harper, Boston University, Jr., G
Sukhmail Mathon, Boston University, Sr., F
Richard Njoku, Navy, Jr., F
Patriot League All-Rookie Team
Kyle Jenkins, Lafayette, Fr., F
R.J. Johnson, Holy Cross, Fr., G
Johnny O'Neil, American, Fr., F
Jalen Rucker, Army West Point, Fr., G
Jeff Woodward, Colgate, Fr., C
Player of the Year: Jordan Burns, Colgate, Sr., G
Defensive Player of the Year: Josh Caldwell, Army West Point, Jr., G
Rookie of the Year: Johnny O'Neil, American, Fr., F
Coach of the Year: Ed DeChellis, Navy
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Post by hchoops on Mar 2, 2021 14:44:26 GMT -5
So AU’s 9 games did not hurt O’Neill’s candidacy for rookie of the year. Versus RJ’s 16
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 2, 2021 15:15:11 GMT -5
O'Neil appeared in just seven games. I'm sure he's a good player, but that's a pretty small sample size for such a recognition.
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Post by hc17 on Mar 2, 2021 15:38:23 GMT -5
If there is something to be taken from the PL awards, it is that they are dominated by upperclassmen. Colgate placing players on all three "All-PL" teams and one player on the "All-Rookie" team is a testament to their success. As the HC roster continues to age and develop, we can expect Nelson's teams to be competitive when he's got a group of Juniors and Seniors. Furthermore, we should ask ourselves if the current crop can develop into top 15 players in the league. Time will tell, but I am cautiously optimistic.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 2, 2021 19:17:56 GMT -5
If there is something to be taken from the PL awards, it is that they are dominated by upperclassmen. Colgate placing players on all three "All-PL" teams and one player on the "All-Rookie" team is a testament to their success. As the HC roster continues to age and develop, we can expect Nelson's teams to be competitive when he's got a group of Juniors and Seniors. Furthermore, we should ask ourselves if the current crop can develop into top 15 players in the league. Time will tell, but I am cautiously optimistic. They are a program, all others are teams, at this time
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 2, 2021 19:48:17 GMT -5
So Colgate had players on 3 all-PL teams and HC had players on 2. Each had a frosh on the all-rookie team. Does that mean HC is a program as soon as they get one more selection on the top 3 teams?
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Post by efg72 on Mar 2, 2021 20:19:36 GMT -5
No that is not the difference
Colgate reloads with each recruiting class to stay slightly ahead of all others-not unbeatable but always ready to compete. In our league they are currently the role model
Langel is a coach that can recruit, develop players, plan for the future, and outcoach his competition.
Navy and Laffy are next in coaching-imho
Followed by Army, American, and Loyola
BU, Bucknell, HC and Lehigh bring up the rear in no particular order.
Once Nelson matures as a head coach, perhaps we move into the top group
After we make that group for 3-4 years we have a program.
This of course is just an opinion of which you all can disagree
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Post by bison137 on Mar 2, 2021 20:40:14 GMT -5
No that is not the difference Colgate reloads with each recruiting class to stay slightly ahead of all others-not unbeatable but always ready to compete. In our league they are currently the role model Langel is a coach that can recruit, develop players, plan for the future, and outcoach his competition. Navy and Laffy are next in coaching-imho Followed by Army, American, and Loyola BU, Bucknell, HC and Lehigh bring up the rear in no particular order. Once Nelson matures as a head coach, perhaps we move into the top group After we make that group for 3-4 years we have a program. This of course is just an opinion of which you all can disagree I agree with your top two, and that Lehigh brings up the rear. However I haven't seen anything from the coaches of Army, Loyola, and American that puts them ahead of the next group. Army has had some underachieving years and AU has had many. And Loyola this year earned the 9th seed despite having the league's best player and some other talent. Tavaras Hardy, running the Carmody offense, has led Loyola to an 18-34 record in PL play. Lafayette is perhaps the hardest one to evaluate. FOH runs a very good offense, but LC's defense typically is very poor. They often lean on the zone because they don't do M2M well.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 2, 2021 20:51:59 GMT -5
Bison agree with you are Laffy, but his players always get better on offense so I put him in that group
The next group was based on steady performance by Brennan over the years, and I think Army and Loyola are well coached. Loyola has talent, but had so many issues this year yet he kept them competitive.
The other four still have a bit to prove, although many can say the PhD guy has enjoyed a successful career at Lehigh
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Post by notjuanjones on Mar 2, 2021 22:22:41 GMT -5
Very difficult to evaluate coaching during the transfer epidemic era in D1 the last few years. Especially at the PL level, continuity from year to year is almost impossible to maintain. I am not the biggest FOH fan, but he has a system that works for them offensively, recruited to it very effectively and kept most of his impact guys four years. (LC's defense has been a little better than it was a few years ago, too.)
I give Langel big credit for hitting on multiple players (Burns had no D1 offers coming out of HS in Texas, and came to Colgate after decommitting from a D2 school) the last few years. But he struggled big-time his first 4-5 years. He got Colgate good by going the transfer route (Burnatowski, Jacobs, Ivanauskas, Cummings, among others). Full disclosure, I have no problem with that-but it's risky if you miss.
Nobody's dazzling me with their Xs and Os. Hardy runs some nice stuff at Loyola, IMO. But if it doesn't lead to wins, what does it matter? DeChellis has had a better run of late and had a great season, but I think we'd all agree Army and Navy have a bit of an advantage over everyone else this year.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 2, 2021 23:26:53 GMT -5
Re: F O'H here is where Lafayette has finished within the Patriot League in offensive efficiency and defensive efficiency per Ken Pomeroy for the last dozen years
Year= offense/defense 09-10= 3/5 10-11= 4/5 11-12=4/6 12-13=1/3
13-14=5/10 AU and BU joined league this season 14-15=2/10 15-16=8/10 16-17=10/10 17-18= 4/8 18-19= 6/9 19-20= 6/5 20-21= 2/7
The defense has been pretty inefficient most every year for many years
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