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Austin
Mar 4, 2021 14:46:47 GMT -5
Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 4, 2021 14:46:47 GMT -5
^ The Pitt of the BE or the PSU of the A10 might have. The Pitt of the ACC and the PSU of the B1G are very doubtful.
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Austin
Mar 4, 2021 20:44:27 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 4, 2021 20:44:27 GMT -5
I hope that neither Bucknell nor Lehigh has a grad program that would be of interest to AB. I’m sure that he wouldn’t mind playing closer to home, and even more sure that either program would love to have him, but I can’t imagine that he’d be willing to go up against HC - unless we were to meet up in a tournament of some type.
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Austin
Mar 4, 2021 22:34:35 GMT -5
Post by longsuffering on Mar 4, 2021 22:34:35 GMT -5
I hope that neither Bucknell nor Lehigh has a grad program that would be of interest to AB. I’m sure that he wouldn’t mind playing closer to home, and even more sure that either program would love to have him, but I can’t imagine that he’d be willing to go up against HC - unless we were to meet up in a tournament of some type. I think there was a post that stated PL teams with grad schools can't take grad transfers to keep the playing court level for all league teams.
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Austin
Mar 4, 2021 23:19:19 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 4, 2021 23:19:19 GMT -5
Austin plays in a way that Tim O’Toole would very much appreciate. O’Toole is currently an assistant at Pitt with Milan Brown. I think that’s a possibility depending on their scholarship situation.
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Austin
Mar 4, 2021 23:26:06 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 4, 2021 23:26:06 GMT -5
Two of their starters have entered the portal. The ACC may be a stretch for Austin.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 4, 2021 23:43:24 GMT -5
Two of their starters have entered the portal. The ACC may be a stretch for Austin. It’s been a stretch for the entire BC roster for 16 years.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 7:17:40 GMT -5
Post by dharry13 on Mar 5, 2021 7:17:40 GMT -5
LMAO - I do enjoy your wit and candor HC92.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Mar 5, 2021 7:46:21 GMT -5
Two of their starters have entered the portal. The ACC may be a stretch for Austin. I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 7:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 5, 2021 7:50:37 GMT -5
I hope that neither Bucknell nor Lehigh has a grad program that would be of interest to AB. I’m sure that he wouldn’t mind playing closer to home, and even more sure that either program would love to have him, but I can’t imagine that he’d be willing to go up against HC - unless we were to meet up in a tournament of some type. I think there was a post that stated PL teams with grad schools can't take grad transfers to keep the playing court level for all league teams. Something from the PL that makes sense?!?!?
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 9:24:10 GMT -5
Post by hceconhist on Mar 5, 2021 9:24:10 GMT -5
I hope that neither Bucknell nor Lehigh has a grad program that would be of interest to AB. I’m sure that he wouldn’t mind playing closer to home, and even more sure that either program would love to have him, but I can’t imagine that he’d be willing to go up against HC - unless we were to meet up in a tournament of some type. I think there was a post that stated PL teams with grad schools can't take grad transfers to keep the playing court level for all league teams. Yeah, he can't transfer to another PL school.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 5, 2021 11:09:08 GMT -5
Two of their starters have entered the portal. The ACC may be a stretch for Austin. I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit. Yes, I think we on the board use the term "athleticism" to mean something different from "being a great athlete". Clearly AB is an exceptional multi-sport athlete-QB of the high school football team, pitched a no-hitter in baseball, set a school record in the javelin throw.. I'll bet he'd make a great free safety for Holy Cross. I think, speaking for no one else, that many here may use "athletic" to mean: quick, fast, great vertical leap.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 11:25:06 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Mar 5, 2021 11:25:06 GMT -5
Two of their starters have entered the portal. The ACC may be a stretch for Austin. I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit. I bet he's as good or better as that kid Kelly that played for BC this year. Seemed to hold his own at least in the early season.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 11:49:25 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2021 11:49:25 GMT -5
I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit. Yes, I think we on the board use the term "athleticism" to mean something different from "being a great athlete". Clearly AB is an exceptional multi-sport athlete-QB of the high school football team, pitched a no-hitter in baseball, set a school record in the javelin throw.. I'll bet he'd make a great free safety for Holy Cross. I think, speaking for no one else, that many here may use "athletic" to mean: quick, fast, great vertical leap. Accurate distinction When I used the term, I referred to the players/athletes that power conferences usually have
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 12:30:23 GMT -5
Post by possum on Mar 5, 2021 12:30:23 GMT -5
Hoops how would you rate Collin Gillespie athletically to AB
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Post by dadominate on Mar 5, 2021 12:39:46 GMT -5
I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit. Yes, I think we on the board use the term "athleticism" to mean something different from "being a great athlete". Clearly AB is an exceptional multi-sport athlete-QB of the high school football team, pitched a no-hitter in baseball, set a school record in the javelin throw.. I'll bet he'd make a great free safety for Holy Cross. I think, speaking for no one else, that many here may use "athletic" to mean: quick, fast, great vertical leap. good post, ky. quick, fast, great vertical leap are only a few of the dimensions of athleticism. overall athleticism includes strength, "nimbleness" (e.g. footwork, which not everyone can develop and some inherently have more than others), body control, etc. butler is pretty athletic. i actually think he is a better athlete than grandison, who was not terribly quick, fast, or a great vertical leaper. my grasp of what he brought to illinois was height and length (which butler does not have) and perimeter shooting ability for his height and length. that is what has made him a contributing b1g player and why butler likely isn't. that said, i could see butler as a role player at pitt, bc, maybe even penn state. i think he's a much better player than some have given him credit for and his intangibles (toughness, leadership, hustle, etc.) are off the charts.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 12:53:12 GMT -5
Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 5, 2021 12:53:12 GMT -5
Maybe Stony Brook - they got a good look at AB a couple of years ago (although I know they had a different staff then). He reminds of another tough as nails kid they had 6-7 years ago....last name escaping me - Tommy.....Brenton? Also thought about Duquesne, ACTP That SBU player may have been Brian Dougher, former Blaney assistant Jim’s grandson. Mow an assistant to his former coach at Rutgers, Steve Pikell No, hoops, for once my memory did not betray me. Thinking of this kid: stonybrookathletics.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/tommy-brenton/358
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 14:02:21 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2021 14:02:21 GMT -5
Yes, Brenton was one tough customer Was a powerful inside scorer, like Pridgen
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Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2021 14:03:50 GMT -5
Yes, I think we on the board use the term "athleticism" to mean something different from "being a great athlete". Clearly AB is an exceptional multi-sport athlete-QB of the high school football team, pitched a no-hitter in baseball, set a school record in the javelin throw.. I'll bet he'd make a great free safety for Holy Cross. I think, speaking for no one else, that many here may use "athletic" to mean: quick, fast, great vertical leap. good post, ky. quick, fast, great vertical leap are only a few of the dimensions of athleticism. overall athleticism includes strength, "nimbleness" (e.g. footwork, which not everyone can develop and some inherently have more than others), body control, etc. butler is pretty athletic. i actually think he is a better athlete than grandison, who was not terribly quick, fast, or a great vertical leaper. my grasp of what he brought to illinois was height and length (which butler does not have) and perimeter shooting ability for his height and length. that is what has made him a contributing b1g player and why butler likely isn't. that said, i could see butler as a role player at pitt, bc, maybe even penn state. i think he's a much better player than some have given him credit for and his intangibles (toughness, leadership, hustle, etc.) are off the charts. Agree, Dado, but will those schools give a schollie to a one year role player ?
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 14:06:22 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2021 14:06:22 GMT -5
Hoops how would you rate Collin Gillespie athletically to AB Collin is a superior athlete to AB. Collin gets beaten sometimes by quicker point guards, but is skilled and smart, especially at the offensive end, to make up for his lack of great quickness compared to some opponents.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 16:54:20 GMT -5
Post by possum on Mar 5, 2021 16:54:20 GMT -5
Not sure Gillespie is a superior athlete to AB but I am sure that he's an inferior athlete to at least 75% of his Big East opponents, but as you correctly state he's been able to overcome any deficiency by playing with a high basketball IQ. I think the intangibles AB brings to a team would be invaluable off the bench as a high energy, turn the momentum role player. You're right that this is a tough year to be looking for a spot but I'll be surprised if he doesn't end up at the very in the A-10.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 18:00:07 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 5, 2021 18:00:07 GMT -5
I think we may be underestimating AB's athleticism a bit. Yes, I think we on the board use the term "athleticism" to mean something different from "being a great athlete". Clearly AB is an exceptional multi-sport athlete-QB of the high school football team, pitched a no-hitter in baseball, set a school record in the javelin throw.. I'll bet he'd make a great free safety for Holy Cross. I think, speaking for no one else, that many here may use "athletic" to mean: quick, fast, great vertical leap. Are you talking about Austin Butler or John Havlicek? Hondo was the star quarterback in high school, played baseball and basketball at The Ohio State University, rejected Woody Hayes' repeated invites to the football team and was drafted in the seventh round by the Cleveland Browns as a wide receiver. AB always reminded me of "Jarrin' John" as Johnny Most called Havlicek.
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Austin
Mar 5, 2021 18:40:28 GMT -5
Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 5, 2021 18:40:28 GMT -5
Now Butler is Havlicek? Good Lord...
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 5, 2021 18:56:04 GMT -5
No, Havlicek couldn't throw a javelin.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 5, 2021 19:50:38 GMT -5
Nice one, ndgradbuthcfan! 
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Austin
Mar 6, 2021 5:25:30 GMT -5
Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 6, 2021 5:25:30 GMT -5
I'd love to see Austin (and Matt do, if he is going this route) end up with a winning program that gives him a legit shot to play in the postseason.
If he was going to go Major, I'd love to see him in a Gonzaga uniform. Another team (not Major) would be Vermont. Just my own thoughts; not saying he would fit in perfectly at either program.
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