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Post by hcpride on Mar 8, 2021 5:52:13 GMT -5
I don't think you are old enough to remember when Fitton was nearly full, or even full. The aerial photo of a nearly full Fitton that is still used is of, I believe, Yale at HC one year in the 80s. The demographics of Worcester have changed greatly over the past 30-40 years. How many HC fans, who are not alums, from Worcester traveled to Chestnut Hill several years ago for BC-HC: a hundred? less than a hundred? That was the epic match up between Rich Diana from Yale and Gil the Thrill, and it didn't disappoint, even though HC lost. That ‘81 visit by a terrific Yale team led by Rogan, Rich Diana, etc. was a great game. As I recall Yale had beaten Navy the week before and I know later that year they briefly cracked the Top Twenty (!). It was Rick Carter’s first year, our team was pretty good and soon to be even better, but Gill Fenerty’s first game for us was two years later.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 8, 2021 9:23:32 GMT -5
That was the epic match up between Rich Diana from Yale and Gil the Thrill, and it didn't disappoint, even though HC lost. That ‘81 visit by a terrific Yale team led by Rogan, Rich Diana, etc. was a great game. As I recall Yale had beaten Navy the week before and I know later that year they briefly cracked the Top Twenty (!). It was Rick Carter’s first year, our team was pretty good and soon to be even better, but Gill Fenerty’s first game for us was two years later. Sorry 'bout that. At least I remember Rich Diana running up and down the field correctly.🙂
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Post by purple1 on Mar 8, 2021 12:14:02 GMT -5
Rich Diana, who was recruited by HC before accepting Yale, & Andy Clivio, the best running back from Massachusetts, were the featured players. Excellent football game played at Fitton Field.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 15, 2021 17:16:35 GMT -5
They will go to Umass but not Fitton. A joke. More seats at Fitton. I don’t want to hear anymore about wasting away games for BC. They are going to play Umass. (18-81) since they joined FBS. Enough. We know BC is in FBS but they have no shot at making the postseason. It’s time for college football teams to start playing regional rivals. Get fans excited about going to games again! Well, FBS teams VERY rarely go to a FCS school ever. Is Army going to Yale a few years ago the biggest example? It might be the only example this century, possible exception being schools transitioning up to FBS. West Virginia played JMU at a "neutral" FedEx Field maybe 10 years ago. Navy played at Delaware a couple of times in the early 1990's. There is no chance BC comes to Fitton minus some kind of historical anniversary event. 100th meeting or something like that.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 15, 2021 19:39:39 GMT -5
BC at HC, though unlikely....would draw a very good crowd imo....lot of crossovah between the fan bases, lot of alumni from both schools within an hour's drive of Fitton, game/rivalry still has a lot of pull for the remaining 50+ crowd etc... it would crack 20K, I have no doubt.
No idea the exact #, but it seemed like a decent turn-out of HC subway-alumni at BC in 2018. Holy Cross was very well represented at Alumni Stadium that day.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 15, 2021 22:44:40 GMT -5
BC at HC, though unlikely....would draw a very good crowd imo....lot of crossovah between the fan bases, lot of alumni from both schools within an hour's drive of Fitton, game/rivalry still has a lot of pull for the remaining 50+ crowd etc... it would crack 20K, I have no doubt. No idea the exact #, but it seemed like a decent turn-out of HC subway-alumni at BC in 2018. Holy Cross was very well represented at Alumni Stadium that day. HC at bc in 2018 had listed attendance of 40,311 For comparison--week before that UMass at bc drew 30,112 Compare to prior FCS visit to bc-- in 2016 Wagner drew 22,728
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Post by timholycross on Mar 15, 2021 22:59:26 GMT -5
Simple economics says if the game is popular you play it at a place w/at least 15K more seats than you have in Worcester. It would be bad business for both schools.
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Post by hc87 on Mar 16, 2021 11:33:25 GMT -5
Yeah, it'll nevah happen under the economics/policies of today's college football but it would be a decent crowd I have no doubt. Sadly, it might not be a bang out crowd at Fitton in 20, 30 years when many alumni of both schools who remembah/lived during the rivalry are no longah on this mortal coil.
Sort of the attendance conundrum for our problem in getting anything close to a sell-out evah again at Fitton....the schools who might do that (BC, Army...any FBS really) will nevah come to Fitton, most of the ones that do are either coming from too long a distance to "travel well" and/or aren't exciting to most casual fans.
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 16, 2021 12:08:21 GMT -5
Simple economics says if the game is popular you play it at a place w/at least 15K more seats than you have in Worcester. It would be bad business for both schools. Then why play at UMass which has 6,000 less seats than HC. You can't use the economics card. Yeah maybe but it will get an entire Central Mass community excited about college football! Something they have not been in a long time. Skipped generations! If BC played an exhibition against HC it would draw really well!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 16, 2021 12:31:23 GMT -5
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1) The game was originally sked for Foxboro. It was just moved in Jan. Don't know why, but it's clearly a one-off in Amh.
2) UMess, horrendous as they are, are still 1A. HC is not.
3) BC isn't coming to Fitton, so move on.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 16, 2021 20:30:57 GMT -5
^
4) Exhibitions aren't a thing in college football.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 16, 2021 20:36:59 GMT -5
Yeah, it'll nevah happen under the economics/policies of today's college football but it would be a decent crowd I have no doubt. Sadly, it might not be a bang out crowd at Fitton in 20, 30 years when many alumni of both schools who remembah/lived during the rivalry are no longah on this mortal coil. Sort of the attendance conundrum for our problem in getting anything close to a sell-out evah again at Fitton....the schools who might do that (BC, Army...any FBS really) will nevah come to Fitton, most of the ones that do are either coming from too long a distance to "travel well" and/or aren't exciting to most casual fans. Army never came to Fitton (not even once) when both schools were playing "major college football". It's purely hypothetical because it will never happen but I do believe it's possible a BC game at Fitton would sell out or come close. The X factor would be how many fans would BC bring for a prospective blowout when these fans could look at the schedule and pick between whether to travel to see their team play in a run-down stadium in Worcester or choose between home games against the likes of Syracuse, Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina (maybe even Notre Dame!). Would they bring 2,500 or 6,000? It wasn't THAT long ago that a HC-Harvard game under the lights in Cambridge drew 20K, on a Friday night. That was September 2008 -- having to pinch myself realizing that night was THIRTEEN YEARS AGO.
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 16, 2021 22:25:37 GMT -5
Yeah, it'll nevah happen under the economics/policies of today's college football but it would be a decent crowd I have no doubt. Sadly, it might not be a bang out crowd at Fitton in 20, 30 years when many alumni of both schools who remembah/lived during the rivalry are no longah on this mortal coil. Sort of the attendance conundrum for our problem in getting anything close to a sell-out evah again at Fitton....the schools who might do that (BC, Army...any FBS really) will nevah come to Fitton, most of the ones that do are either coming from too long a distance to "travel well" and/or aren't exciting to most casual fans. Army never came to Fitton (not even once) when both schools were playing "major college football". It's purely hypothetical because it will never happen but I do believe it's possible a BC game at Fitton would sell out or come close. The X factor would be how many fans would BC bring for a prospective blowout when these fans could look at the schedule and pick between whether to travel to see their team play in a run-down stadium in Worcester or choose between home games against the likes of Syracuse, Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina (maybe even Notre Dame!). Would they bring 2,500 or 6,000? It wasn't THAT long ago that a HC-Harvard game under the lights in Cambridge drew 20K, on a Friday night. That was September 2008 -- having to pinch myself realizing that night was THIRTEEN YEARS AGO. Those BC fans couldn't even get down to Foxboro to watch their Eagles play UMass. What makes you think they are coming to the wild wild west of Worcester?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 17, 2021 4:14:27 GMT -5
Army never came to Fitton (not even once) when both schools were playing "major college football". It's purely hypothetical because it will never happen but I do believe it's possible a BC game at Fitton would sell out or come close. The X factor would be how many fans would BC bring for a prospective blowout when these fans could look at the schedule and pick between whether to travel to see their team play in a run-down stadium in Worcester or choose between home games against the likes of Syracuse, Florida State, Clemson and North Carolina (maybe even Notre Dame!). Would they bring 2,500 or 6,000? It wasn't THAT long ago that a HC-Harvard game under the lights in Cambridge drew 20K, on a Friday night. That was September 2008 -- having to pinch myself realizing that night was THIRTEEN YEARS AGO. Those BC fans couldn't even get down to Foxboro to watch their Eagles play UMass. What makes you think they are coming to the wild wild west of Worcester? I'm not sure that they would. Hence why I asked the question.
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