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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 23, 2021 13:44:53 GMT -5
I was amused by this comment about Dorsey on the UNM board:
Never had a chance. John Stockton would struggle on this team.
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Post by trimster on Mar 23, 2021 13:48:05 GMT -5
I liked MassLobos guide to pronouncing Worcester.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 23, 2021 15:01:47 GMT -5
Interview with his high school coach before his senior season:
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 23, 2021 15:30:17 GMT -5
See Nolan. See Nolan pass. Pass, Nolan, pass
See Nolan drive . . .
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 23, 2021 15:31:24 GMT -5
I like how his coach was pleased to have 4 players who could be at PG. HC may see the same in the near future. Also, just because one "can" play point guard does not mean they can't also play another position. Having several players who can bring the ball up the court and handle it well, looking for an open teammate is a good thing IMO. His defense was also commented on as strong. That is always a team asset.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 23, 2021 15:32:16 GMT -5
Isaiah Marin, a 6-5, Freshmen, Point Guard from New Mexico, has entered the transfer portal today
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 23, 2021 15:35:10 GMT -5
The NM posters seem to feel that are about to lose many players to the TP in the near future.
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Post by classof83 on Mar 23, 2021 16:01:04 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 23, 2021 16:05:28 GMT -5
Too late. He's already off the board to Mississippi.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 23, 2021 16:16:08 GMT -5
Really like his vision as a passer
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Post by trimster on Mar 25, 2021 9:01:20 GMT -5
Dorsey played on a hs team with a front court of 6’7”, 6’8” and 6’9” and he was the lead guard at 6’5”. The team was ranked #1 in North Carolina.
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Post by possum on Mar 26, 2021 13:29:49 GMT -5
Interesting video on YouTube titled Carter Whitt vs Nolan Dorsey. They are local rivals, Whitt is a Wake Forest commit who was rated the 10th best point guard in the country in 2020. There is an interview with both followed by a couple of one on one sessions, Dorsey certainly held his own against this highly rated player. Skip to 6:45 into video when Dorsey appears. Whitt by the way finished up high school in December and enrolled at Wake Forest early and played about 20 minutes a game this year. It seems this is happening more in college basketball mirroring what's been going on in football for awhile.
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Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2021 13:48:19 GMT -5
Interesting video on YouTube titled Carter Whitt vs Nolan Dorsey. They are local rivals, Whitt is a Wake Forest commit who was rated the 10th best point guard in the country in 2020. There is an interview with both followed by a couple of one on one sessions, Dorsey certainly held his own against this highly rated player. Skip to 6:45 into video when Dorsey appears. Whitt by the way finished up high school in December and enrolled at Wake Forest early and played about 20 minutes a game this year. It seems this is happening more in college basketball mirroring what's been going on in football for awhile. With football you gain the advantage of practicing with the team and school control over workout. Whitt was in a unique situation that he could play for Wake Forest in the Spring and not lose any eligibility. I assume this is a one year thing A year ago, a kid from my old high school graduated in December to head to Notre Dame. He committed early and needed summer classes to make it happen. I'm not sure how easy that road is
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Post by HC92 on Mar 26, 2021 14:58:03 GMT -5
Interesting video on YouTube titled Carter Whitt vs Nolan Dorsey. They are local rivals, Whitt is a Wake Forest commit who was rated the 10th best point guard in the country in 2020. There is an interview with both followed by a couple of one on one sessions, Dorsey certainly held his own against this highly rated player. Skip to 6:45 into video when Dorsey appears. Whitt by the way finished up high school in December and enrolled at Wake Forest early and played about 20 minutes a game this year. It seems this is happening more in college basketball mirroring what's been going on in football for awhile.
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Post by dharry13 on Mar 26, 2021 16:11:07 GMT -5
I'd say he more than held his own. I like this kid's game - a lot. Passer at his size? He should get minutes day 1. He's already preaching he was one of the better defenders in the state. No clue if he is or he isn't, but if he's talking about his game via defense I like him already.
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Post by trimster on Mar 26, 2021 17:36:59 GMT -5
I'd say he more than held his own. I like this kid's game - a lot. Passer at his size? He should get minutes day 1. He's already preaching he was one of the better defenders in the state. No clue if he is or he isn't, but if he's talking about his game via defense I like him already. I like his attitude. He looks like he could play either guard spot and small forward as well. I think he wii be a nice addition to the program.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2021 17:51:19 GMT -5
Agree that with his height and game Nolan seems to have more flexibility that some other PGs. I also have to admit I like his swagger and the willingness he seems to have to play wherever needed. That sort of attitude could add to the program as well.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 26, 2021 19:24:47 GMT -5
Interesting video on YouTube titled Carter Whitt vs Nolan Dorsey. They are local rivals, Whitt is a Wake Forest commit who was rated the 10th best point guard in the country in 2020. There is an interview with both followed by a couple of one on one sessions, Dorsey certainly held his own against this highly rated player. Skip to 6:45 into video when Dorsey appears. Whitt by the way finished up high school in December and enrolled at Wake Forest early and played about 20 minutes a game this year. It seems this is happening more in college basketball mirroring what's been going on in football for awhile. I saw Whitt at least twice He played very effectively on a weak team
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 27, 2021 9:56:01 GMT -5
Maybe Nolan will be able to guard someone like Spencer of Loyola; maybe be a Javante McCoy type of player.
Really liking the perimeter crew the staff has built; just having the uncertainly of the unknown with the bigs crew (outside of GG, obviously a proven performer).
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Post by efg72 on Mar 27, 2021 17:57:43 GMT -5
Maybe Nolan will be able to guard someone like Spencer of Loyola; maybe be a Javante McCoy type of player. Really liking the perimeter crew the staff has built; just having the uncertainly of the unknown with the bigs crew (outside of GG, obviously a proven performer). Amen- the staff has made great additions but they are recruiting what they know -we need 5 bigs at 6’7 plus and there is nobody on staff at that size or with a reputation of developing bigs recruits can relate to at this time. If I am a big, I wouldn't commit until I see Nelson bring in somebody who has reputation of developing bigs and he proves he can coach and win-
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Post by crosspride on Mar 27, 2021 20:27:28 GMT -5
Maybe Nolan will be able to guard someone like Spencer of Loyola; maybe be a Javante McCoy type of player. Really liking the perimeter crew the staff has built; just having the uncertainly of the unknown with the bigs crew (outside of GG, obviously a proven performer). Amen- the staff has made great additions but they are recruiting what they know -we need 5 bigs at 6’7 plus and there is nobody on staff at that size or with a reputation of developing bigs recruits can relate to at this time. If I am a big, I wouldn't commit until I see Nelson bring in somebody who has reputation of developing bigs and he proves he can coach and win- Matt Faw’s game complete changed under Nelson and he became a good post player. This has been Nelson’s and staff’s only opportunity to develop a big and I think it turned out pretty well. Like anytime this happens you have to credit the player more than anything, but I don’t think Faw all of the sudden said “I want to learn low post moves” and took it upon himself to change his game to fit into Nelson’s game plan.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 27, 2021 20:45:50 GMT -5
Maybe Nolan will be able to guard someone like Spencer of Loyola; maybe be a Javante McCoy type of player. Really liking the perimeter crew the staff has built; just having the uncertainly of the unknown with the bigs crew (outside of GG, obviously a proven performer). Amen- the staff has made great additions but they are recruiting what they know -we need 5 bigs at 6’7 plus and there is nobody on staff at that size or with a reputation of developing bigs recruits can relate to at this time. If I am a big, I wouldn't commit until I see Nelson bring in somebody who has reputation of developing bigs and he proves he can coach and win- You do not have to be a Big coach to recruit or develop bigs. Most coaches who have recruited and developed bigs were not big. Our own guard George Blaney recruited and developed some bigs (Potter, Floyd)with short Jim Dougher as his assistant. Ralph Willard with no bigs as assistants recruited and developed Tim Szatko, Tim Clifford, Andrew Keister. Just take Dean Smith, John Wooden who did pretty well as guards recruiting and developing bigs. Next season we will have 3 players at 6’8”+ plus 6’6” Gates who I take as a big.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 27, 2021 20:55:56 GMT -5
I said there is nobody on staff at that size or “with a reputation of developing bigs”
So I agree with your opinion that it certainly doesn't take a big to develop front court players- but so far, imho, that is a gap on the current staff-and while I could be wrong time will tell
And I would love to be wrong
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 27, 2021 21:58:03 GMT -5
Maybe Nolan will be able to guard someone like Spencer of Loyola; maybe be a Javante McCoy type of player. Really liking the perimeter crew the staff has built; just having the uncertainly of the unknown with the bigs crew (outside of GG, obviously a proven performer). Amen- the staff has made great additions but they are recruiting what they know -we need 5 bigs at 6’7 plus and there is nobody on staff at that size or with a reputation of developing bigs recruits can relate to at this time. If I am a big, I wouldn't commit until I see Nelson bring in somebody who has reputation of developing bigs and he proves he can coach and win- We have four bigs at 6’7+ on the roster next year (I am rounding up Gates), and I don’t really understand why we would need more than that. Nelson wants to play at a fast pace with a full-court defense. Recruiting a bunch of aircraft carriers like Records and Woodward at Colgate is not going to do us a ton of good because they aren’t going to be as effective playing at that pace. The days of Whearty-Szatko and McNaughton-Matraopolo 4-5 bruiser combos leading the way in the PL are behind us. IMO, if there is one gap on the roster right now it’s in perimeter shooting. Nelson has assembled some dynamic playmakers, but we’re going to need to have some guys be threats from the 3-point line to create space on the floor. It will be critical that Martindale and Wade both take a step forward in becoming more consistent outside shooters next year.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 28, 2021 0:03:20 GMT -5
Finding a "consistent outside shooter" may be an impossible task. It is simply the nature of 3 point shooting that there is nobody alive who will make 40% of his three point attempts game after game or even 33% every game for that matter. The math just isn't there. Sometimes shots fall and other times they do not. Just as Tony Gwynn didn't bat .333 by going 1 for 3 every game, no basketball shooter has consistent success with threes. Let's look at Justin Jaworski as an example- many would consider him a great three point shooter as he shot .426 for his career at Lafayette. He did so even though he failed to make 1/3rd of his 3 point attempts in 24 of 98 games. He had games of 0-7, 0-6,0-5, 1-10 with his three pointers yet I think most coaches would consider him to be a "consistent outside shooter". If you want consistent outside shooting you'd better have three or four good shooters and hope their games with shots not falling do not coincide.
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