Oh, raise thy voice..

3rd rate ??
How did arrive at this erroneous conclusion.?
Did you check our endownment ?
Have you seen the Jo ? The PPAC ?

The state of the college is not as dire and depressed as posted. HC just finished raising $420 million in the Become More Campaign, and is currently raising 40 million dollars for financial aid.

Of note, on February 13, it was reported by the Chair of the BOT that the HC endowment reached $910 million. Based on Wikipedia, the HC endowment is still higher than that of Villanova and Fordham. I am attaching a list of Catholic Colleges and Universities in the United States. BC, Georgetown, Notre Dame and Santa Clara have larger endowments. Of course, their enrollment at these schools are substantially larger than HC. They also have professional schools which has helped drive their endowments through contributions and grants.

The endowments listed are from 2020, I do not have access to the updated endowments for each of these schools, the endowment may have either grown from 2020, or decreased.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_universities_and_colleges_in_the_United_States

Regarding admissions, HC has taken steps to hopefully rectify this area that needs improvement in comparison to our peers. A new Vice Provost for Admissions and Enrollment Management started at HC on January 4, 2021. Let’s hope that he will be able to dramatically change the current trend in applications with better marketing and outreach to a larger geographical high school population.

No disrespect to anyone but in my post I was merely reflecting some of the discussions & opinions some expressed on this board.
Words & phrases from my post: "It is my understanding from this board... " "Evidently..." "It seems..."
I should have been clearer that the negative characterizations about HC were made in comments by others. I admit that I added "third rate" but if some on this board are placing HC behind Providence & Villanova then they are placing HC in the third tier of Catholic colleges.
I did add "Third rate is not who we are."
50+years ago many of us chose HC over the Ivies because we believed it was a special place and offered a rigorous education and campus bonding second to none.In my heart this will always be true. However, times change and some have pointed out that former safety schools such as VU, PU & BC evidently have zoomed past HC in terms of selectivity & quality of students.  Maybe I misunderstood the comments by some because quite frankly I was surprised by their posts.
Appreciate your responses and your love for & pride in Holy Cross.
Certainly, we can link arms and heed the call of our beloved alma mater for HC to Become More.(Magis?) Peace. 

Endowment is typically measured as endowment $ per full-time student, student totals encompassing both undergraduates and graduates. HC is still comfortably in second place among all Catholic colleges and universities. Notre Dame has lapped the field, and I don't see another Catholic college or university catching it unless a billionaire donates billions to a Catholic school.

well said!

our name/catholic values that make hc relatively unique these days and the mentality of the angry woke mob spreading across college campuses are generally incompatible and i hope we do not capitulate to them. if we do, at some point down the road, you can kiss the crusader and maybe even the name holy cross goodbye. i hope we put our foot down. with any vision from our administration, this would seem to create a niche for us and would attract those who do not worship at the altar of wokism.

Holy Cross isn't changing its name nor should it, but that doesn't mean that its Catholic name and identity do not present marketing problems. It's interesting how many colleges and universities had religious origins. My daughter, for example, went to the College of Wooster, a great small liberal arts school in Ohio. We were amused to learn that many years ago the school's nickname was the Fighting Presbyterians. HC's admissions would have a easier time if the school were named, say, Wellington College, but I think the wisest course is for HC to be proud of its name and embrace the challenge.

Good point about the community service. When I mentioned a President putting his foot down, I meant to extremists on each pole who don't want to discuss, learn, grow, reflect but think Holy Cross must comply with their vision because it is a Catholic College and think bad publicity will aid their cause.

How about Sanctae Crucis.  Or, Could be College of the Crucis...like my name on Crossports.....

Saint Croix or Santa Cruz would work too! Especially if we could teleport the entire campus to either one of those locations. The Caribbean or on the Pacific Ocean would be ideal.  Both have better weather in January than Mass. Bet there would be a tremendous jump in applications. 😃 Problem solved!

I would gladly cede the title to Alma Mater. Gratis!  I would like to live for several more decades.

College of the Path of the Suffering would be appropriate since everyone has a path of suffering when preparing for blue books and papers.

After college, we have become so masochistic, that we enjoy the the path of the caustic comments in Crossports. 🤣.

On reflection, maybe we should nix that idea of the name change, the marketing campaign would not get off the ground, and applications would plunge.

Moving to Saint Croix or Santa Cruz however is still appealing.  Ever been to U Cal Santa Barbara?  It’s on the beach.

I'll bring this conversation to a quick end.

At the end of the American Revolution, a French priest, Claude Bouchard de la Poterie, acquired a run-down and abandoned French Huguenot chapel in Boston and named it as the church of the Holy Cross. Abbe Bouchard celebrated the first Catholic mass in Massachusetts and Rhode Island.

At the end of August 1788, a French squadron of seven ships had arrived in Boston, sheltering in the harbor for four weeks to avoid September hurricanes in the North Atlantic. The squadron was enroute to France, having departed several French territories in the West Indies.

Remaining in Boston after the squadron departed was Claude Florent Bouchard de la Poterie.
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Bouchard's origins:
Bouchard appears as an entry in the Inventaire historique des actses transcents aux insinuations Ecclesiastiques, L'Ancien Diocese de Lisieux, Vol 5, the ecclesiastical journal for the diocese of Lisieux, in Normandy, dated March 24, 1785. He is recorded as succeeding the invalided pastor of the church of St. Pardoul, in the very small commune of La Breviere. Abbe Bouchard is described as a “pronotaire apostolique, comte palatin et vicaire de la Brevière”. The only title that is certain is that of “vicaire”: i.e., a vicar, a substitute. A “pronotaire apostolique” is a rather high office in the church, just beneath that of bishop. At that time, a pronotaire apostolique acted as a representative of the Pope, an extension of the Curia staff, who published and disseminated communications and edicts from Rome to the faithful in more distant realms.

In Eighteenth Century France, a “comte palatin”, literally a Count of Palatine, had become a papal honorific, bestowed on the noble families of two papal territories in France, one being the city of Avignon.

In August 1787, Bouchard resigned as pastor of this small church. Apparently waiting to embark on a ship at the port of Le Havre, Bouchard sent, by proxy, a letter of resignation to the pope, and proposed that Abbe Jean-Baptiste-Silvestre Rousselin, a priest in the archdiocese of Rouen succeed him as pastor of St. Pardoul. Rousselin is acceptable to the pope, and becomes pastor of St. Pardoul.
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The Jesuits in the Caribbean

The Province of France, centered in Paris and encompassing much of northern France, had responsibility for missions in Central America. This Province, one of five in France, operated 30 colleges; most of these incurring sizeable annual operating deficits and burdened with high levels of debt.

At the direction of Antoine de la Valette, the Jesuit overseeing the Society’s missions in Central America and South America, this agricultural undertaking [to support the province] became a commercial enterprise. Contracts between de la Valette and merchants in France financed the plantation operations in exchange for the Jesuit sending commodities, principally refined sugar, to France. Such contracts exceeded de la Valette’s authority, and were inconsistent with canon law for religious orders.

In 1754, the French and Indian War began in North America. (This marks the start of the Seven Years War.) During the summer of 1755, the English navy seized hundreds of French merchant ships, although the two countries were not at war. Among the seizures were 12 of the 13 ships carrying de la Valette’s commodities to France. French merchants had paid de la Valette 2 million livres. Neither de la Valette nor the Province of France could reimburse the merchants for their lost investment, and this would eventually lead to the suppression of the Society of Jesus in France in 1764. In 1764, Claude Florent Bouchard was 13 years old.
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Soon after arriving in Guadeloupe in 1787, Bouchard served as a priest for six weeks (November and December) at a church in Baillif, a commune in Basse-Terre, Guadeloupe. (An 1843 eruption of La Grande Soufrière volcano, five miles from Baillif, killed 5,000, and likely destroyed the church.) He would leave Guadeloupe with the French naval squadron in the summer of 1788.
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Nine months following this apparently brief pastoral tenure in Guadeloupe, Claude Bouchard de la Poterie appeared in Boston, declaring himself to be a “Vice Prefect and Apostolick Missionary” with “Ample Powers and Spiritual Jurisdiction in the United States of America”. He presented a pass from the King, Louis XVI, signed at Versailles, Bouchard insisted, before he had left France; and a second pass from the mayor of his birthplace.

He further declared that he was a Knight of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem, and a member of two learned academies in Rome. (Abbe Bouchard will later publish a notice offering instruction in the Italian language, and reportedly claimed to have resided in Rome and Naples.)

On his person, he carries a small piece of wood of incalculable value: a fragment of the True Cross.
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“On Sunday last, … the Roman Catholic chapel was opened and consecrated. The holy sacrifice of Mass was there celebrated by Monsieur L’ Abbe de la Poterie, Priest, Doctor of Divinity, Clerk, and Apostolic Missionary. …. The concourse of people assembled was so great as to create an apprehension of some unfortunate accident, from the falling of the gallery and they were obliged to make temporary props for this building, which, although dedicated to the worship of God, threatens immediate ruin, unless seasonably repaired.”

A public notice announcing the availability of tickets for a mass on the following Sunday further described the chapel’s dedication and consecration to ‘the Most Holy Almighty GOD, under the title and invocation of the HOLY CROSS.” Bouchard “exposed, in a solemn manner, to the veneration of the Christians, the true CROSS of our LORD, JESUS CHRIST, which he brought from Rome – has dedicated to God, under the title of the HOLY CROSS…”

Bouchard departed Boston in January 1790, leaving behind the reliquary.

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In 2010, the reliquary containing the ‘True Cross’ was stolen from the Cathedral of the Holy Cross in Boston. Recovered some weeks later, the reliquary is described as a mahogany box with brass fittings, and given to [Bishop] Cheverus by a friend from France.

As the mahogany tree grows only in the Caribbean and Central America, the box is not of European origin, and most likely was manufactured at Bouchard’s direction when he was in Guadeloupe. As to the fragment of the ‘True Cross’ contained within, Bouchard had explained in Boston that he had received it in Rome in recognition of his service as a Knight of the Holy Sepulcher in Jerusalem.
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In Paris in 1790, there were three fragments of the 'True Cross'. One was at Notre Dame, given to the cathedral by a king who had fled Poland and which had been in the national treasury of Poland and Lithuania. A second was bought in Constantinople by King Louis IX in the Thirteenth Century and installed at Saint Chapelle (along with the Crown of Thorns). The third was displayed for veneration at the church of the Holy Cross on Ile de la Cite. This fragment of 'the 'True Cross' had arrived in France from Spain in the Sixth Century, as a gift to the then king of France from the bishop of Zaragoza.
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And as for Abbe Bouchard's view of the Jesuits, he authored and published a pamphlet titled the "Resurrection of Laurent Ricci". Ricci was the Superior General of the Jesuits at the time of the order's suppression by the pope,.

The February 1923 Meeting of the Colonial Society of Massachusetts examined in detail the background and tenure of the three priests who were the first to serve as pastor of the chapel of the Holy Cross: Bouchard de la Poterie; a French priest, Louis de Rousselet; and a convert from Massachusetts, John Thayer. The Society wrote of The Resurrection of Laurent Ricci,

“The style of the pamphlet, which is a violent anti-Jesuit diatribe, bears a marked similarity to that of La Poterie as shown in his various advertisements of this period. In the Herald of Freedom for January 8, 1790, he covered three columns on the front page with an address “To the Impartial Public.” In the course of it he stated that he “would not have interrupted or quited divine service in the Chapel, but for a cabal of Jesuits.” Then after a reference to Father O’Brien, almost in the exact words of the dedication to the Resurrection of Laurent Ricci, he proceeded to assail de Rousselet with a richness of vituperation which might have aroused the envy of the most polemical of Puritan divines of the eighteenth century.”

I do know that there are numerous different fee waivers for the HC application. This includes all students at Jesuit high schools.