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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 3, 2021 23:49:40 GMT -5
^
By you?
Dodgers and Lakers were clearly the best in MLB and NBA last year, and would have won if there were 162 and 82 games respectively, so what's your point?
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Post by hc87 on Apr 4, 2021 0:36:27 GMT -5
^ By you? Dodgers and Lakers were clearly the best in MLB and NBA last year, and would have won if there were 162 and 82 games respectively, so what's your point? Yes by me lol.....do we really know that though? Seasons were seriously altered by covid.....as this Spring FCS season has been. It is what it is.....glad they are playing but this really isn't a real "season"....back to normalcy in the Fall God willing.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Apr 4, 2021 4:46:10 GMT -5
The asterisks, if there are any, will denote winning a championship under the most trying conditions ever imagined.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Apr 4, 2021 5:43:08 GMT -5
^ By you? Dodgers and Lakers were clearly the best in MLB and NBA last year, and would have won if there were 162 and 82 games respectively, so what's your point? Yes by me lol.....do we really know that though? Seasons were seriously altered by covid.....as this Spring FCS season has been. It is what it is.....glad they are playing but this really isn't a real "season"....back to normalcy in the Fall God willing. Whatevah. You think Bob Chesney, Jacob Dobbs and 90+ other. Crusaders feel that way?
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Post by hcpride on Apr 4, 2021 6:29:43 GMT -5
To be fair, if we have an undefeated regular season (an awesome accomplishment under ordinary circumstances) folks (or an asterisk) will point out it was only 4 (?) games - and they were all PL. And if we have a couple of losses next year to finish 10-2 or 9-3 or thereabouts nobody’s gonna bemoan some sort of a decline ‘since our undefeated regular season’
Of course the kids and coaches are trying to win every game and every win is something to be proud of. Heck, every time we beat the covid protocols and even get to play is a huge win in my book.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 4, 2021 7:24:22 GMT -5
We have talented posters who are always able to find the cloud around any silver lining
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Post by breezy on Apr 4, 2021 8:06:59 GMT -5
I have no idea about how the tiebreakers will work but it seems to me that if Fordham beats Colgate today, Holy Cross will be the North division champ no matter the outcome of the game against Colgate next week. Clearly, if HC beats Colgate, HC is in. If someone who knows the tiebreakers can show me how that might be wrong, I'd be happy to know that. In looking at the various tiebreaker scenarios, I'm pretty sure that my original post is incorrect. Fordham lost to HC by 10 points and beat Colgate by more than 20 points -- so Fordham sits at +10, the same as Holy Cross. Therefore, HC would have to beat Colgate to get into the championship game. If Colgate wins, Fordham's +10 would carry the day. Again, if someone can show me how this might be wrong, I'd be happy to know. (But let's beat Colgate and forget about all these scenarios.)
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 4, 2021 8:13:10 GMT -5
I have no idea about how the tiebreakers will work but it seems to me that if Fordham beats Colgate today, Holy Cross will be the North division champ no matter the outcome of the game against Colgate next week. Clearly, if HC beats Colgate, HC is in. If someone who knows the tiebreakers can show me how that might be wrong, I'd be happy to know that. In looking at the various tiebreaker scenarios, I'm pretty sure that my original post is incorrect. Fordham lost to HC by 10 points and beat Colgate by more than 20 points -- so Fordham sits at +10, the same as Holy Cross. Therefore, HC would have to beat Colgate to get into the championship game. If Colgate wins, Fordham's +10 would carry the day. Again, if someone can show me how this might be wrong, I'd be happy to know. (But let's beat Colgate and forget about all these scenarios.) Only the Patriot League would do this as a tie breaker. HC beats Fordham and yet Fordham gets to go the championship with the same record if HC loses. Give me a break. HC should destroy Colgate anyway.
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 4, 2021 8:47:55 GMT -5
^ By you? Dodgers and Lakers were clearly the best in MLB and NBA last year, and would have won if there were 162 and 82 games respectively, so what's your point? Yes by me lol.....do we really know that though? Seasons were seriously altered by covid.....as this Spring FCS season has been. It is what it is.....glad they are playing but this really isn't a real "season"....back to normalcy in the Fall God willing. And I'll bet all the teams in the Western Conference (predecessor to the Big 10) wanted an asterisk on Minnesota's 1911 championship because the field was shortened to 100 yards and 10 yard end zones added that season. Not to mention all those pre-1906 teams who thought teams using the newly legal forward pass were less legitimate. Rules change all the time. You play by the rules to decide a winner. This season has meant some unusual rule changes out of necessity. Those who chose to play will determine a champion following those rules. Seems pretty simple to me.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 4, 2021 9:46:11 GMT -5
It will be dumb if, assuming we beat Colgate and Bucknell, calls this season as an “undefeated regular season.”
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 4, 2021 10:01:47 GMT -5
It would also be accurate....and a source of justifiable pride for the players, coaches and some fans.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2021 11:44:06 GMT -5
I'll take our hypothetical and very unlikely asterisk over UMass' real asterisk from the final four.
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Post by bison137 on Apr 4, 2021 20:01:03 GMT -5
In looking at the various tiebreaker scenarios, I'm pretty sure that my original post is incorrect. Fordham lost to HC by 10 points and beat Colgate by more than 20 points -- so Fordham sits at +10, the same as Holy Cross. Therefore, HC would have to beat Colgate to get into the championship game. If Colgate wins, Fordham's +10 would carry the day. Again, if someone can show me how this might be wrong, I'd be happy to know. (But let's beat Colgate and forget about all these scenarios.) Only the Patriot League would do this as a tie breaker. HC beats Fordham and yet Fordham gets to go the championship with the same record if HC loses. Give me a break. HC should destroy Colgate anyway. You’re forgetting that Colgate would also be in the tie for first. So Colgate could use the same logic and say that they should be in the championship game because they beat holy cross. It’s circular.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 4, 2021 20:04:43 GMT -5
Let's see HC win this weekend and break the cycle.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2021 20:41:57 GMT -5
Don't forget the Covid backdoor to the PLC game and then again to the FCS playoffs if a better team has to stop playing.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 5, 2021 10:02:28 GMT -5
Water under the bridge now, but I didn't see it mentioned. We talked about an unwanted week off as good for our banged up players. What about getting more 1st team reps for our off-the-bench, second half young QB who helped the Crusaders mount a come-from-behind victory? I don't think CD will be the QB, especially now with an extra week to practice.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 5, 2021 10:32:04 GMT -5
I just noticed that UAlbany opted out of their two remaining games last week, 'not' covid related but due to concern about the number of injuries they had experienced (and implicitly their readiness for the fall season). Somewhat surprised that this has not occurred more this spring.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 5, 2021 12:18:57 GMT -5
Water under the bridge now, but I didn't see it mentioned. We talked about an unwanted week off as good for our banged up players. What about getting more 1st team reps for our off-the-bench, second half young QB who helped the Crusaders mount a come-from-behind victory? I don't think CD will be the QB, especially now with an extra week to practice. Will be interesting. I think someone besides Sluka will get some snaps in the game. Just not sure if it will be Connor or someone else. Ideally, we get a nice, big lead in the first half and can experiment a little with different personnel in the second.
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Post by ignatius on Apr 5, 2021 14:20:11 GMT -5
I just noticed that UAlbany opted out of their two remaining games last week, 'not' covid related but due to concern about the number of injuries they had experienced (and implicitly their readiness for the fall season). Somewhat surprised that this has not occurred more this spring. This does not seem like a legitimate basis for basically quitting on the season, even if it is in the spring. I’ve never heard of a team opting out due to injuries. If it wouldn’t happen in the fall, why should it happen now? COVID is obviously a different story. Perhaps the juice was no longer worth the squeeze once they dropped 3 straight. In any event, what about their CAA opponents? Albany’s decision extends beyond their own team.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 5, 2021 15:39:17 GMT -5
I just noticed that UAlbany opted out of their two remaining games last week, 'not' covid related but due to concern about the number of injuries they had experienced (and implicitly their readiness for the fall season). Somewhat surprised that this has not occurred more this spring. This does not seem like a legitimate basis for basically quitting on the season, even if it is in the spring. I’ve never heard of a team opting out due to injuries. If it wouldn’t happen in the fall, why should it happen now? COVID is obviously a different story. Perhaps the juice was no longer worth the squeeze once they dropped 3 straight. In any event, what about their CAA opponents? Albany’s decision extends beyond their own team. Very clearly risk reward. If a season ending injury happens in November, the player has until the following year to heal and be ready to play. If that happens in April, the player will likely miss the season in the fall. So it's doubly-impacting.
Yes, if Albany was poised to win a championship in the spring, flags fly forever, and you keep playing. Even that may be up for debate of the "legitimacy" of a championship season when you only play 4-5 games.
However, if all that can be gained is a few W/Ls in a fugazy season that could be cancelled on a whim if somebody in the dining hall sneezes on the kicker, AND a significant injury will cost a player next season too, it's not worth the cost to keep going in my opinion.
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