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Oct 24, 2021 7:48:31 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Oct 24, 2021 7:48:31 GMT -5
Well, we can all be united now in rooting for the Braves.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 24, 2021 7:54:43 GMT -5
Didn't have to pay his salary last year either.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 24, 2021 8:29:53 GMT -5
Well, we can all be united now in rooting for the Braves. Yes, but not enthusiastically for this long time Mets fan. Actually I will be rooting against the cheaters.
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Post by Tom on Oct 24, 2021 8:56:02 GMT -5
3 teams in MLB won 100+ games. None managed to win a pennant
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Oct 24, 2021 11:14:41 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 24, 2021 11:14:41 GMT -5
Sox "break even" on Mookie Betts. They finish the season in the LCS just like the Dodgers but without having to pay Mookie's salary. What about last season ? Last season the Red Sox finished last and the Dodgers won the WS. So the Sox haven't broken even overall.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 24, 2021 11:34:55 GMT -5
The only criticism I'd have of the move was if the Sox could have kept him for the beginning of 2020 and gotten as good a deal from someone if and when (which probably would have been pretty soon, given how historically terrible their pitching was) they fell out of the race.
You really want to pay a guy for 9 (?) more years who's showing signs of breaking down in Year 1 of the contract?
And "giving" LA the title in 2020, given how strange and abbreviated that season was, is a small price to pay.
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Post by Tom on Oct 24, 2021 12:41:29 GMT -5
Not a popular fact, but this Astros squad is only the 2nd team ever to go to the ALCS five consecutive times - the other being Oakland 1971-1975
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Post by hchoops on Oct 24, 2021 13:27:58 GMT -5
3 teams in MLB won 100+ games. None managed to win a pennant That is the result of a crap shoot playoff system. Having the teams with best records in baseball play in the 5 game divisional series was absurd. I know that only one of them could make the WS, but a 7 game Series would have been preferable. The Rays also should not have had to play a 5 game series. My age is the reason I yearn for only a World Series between the best teams from each league..
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Post by hchoops on Oct 24, 2021 13:28:57 GMT -5
Not a popular fact, but this Astros squad is only the 2nd team ever to go to the ALCS five consecutive times - the other being Oakland 1971-1975 Invalid 2017 should not count.
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Post by hc87 on Oct 25, 2021 13:03:54 GMT -5
Not to continue to dump on the Dodgers, but I will....saw an interesting fact that they have only won 1 WS with a full 162 game season since 1965.
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Post by mm67 on Oct 25, 2021 14:24:38 GMT -5
Love baseball. The game is bigger than any particular player or team. Will watch the WS, enjoy and discover something new about this wonderful game. - A jilted Giants fan & NY M & Y devotee.
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Post by Tom on Oct 25, 2021 18:33:05 GMT -5
Not to continue to dump on the Dodgers, but I will....saw an interesting fact that they have only won 1 WS with a full 162 game season since 1965. 1988 and Kirk Gibson That 1981 championship was the year of that mid-season strike caused the split season. An interesting fact indeed
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Post by alum on Oct 26, 2021 17:47:53 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 27, 2021 0:30:07 GMT -5
I remember it was said of Fergie that he got stronger as the game progressed-counter intuitive but he sure pitched a lot of complete games. I just revisited his career in baseball-reference and was surprised to see that he was only on three All Star teams, He led the league in home runs allowed 7 times but in fewest walks per 9 innings 5X.
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Oct 27, 2021 6:07:39 GMT -5
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 27, 2021 6:07:39 GMT -5
Will Rob Manfred mandate that the entire series is played in Houston?
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Post by Tom on Oct 27, 2021 7:41:05 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 27, 2021 7:45:37 GMT -5
I remember it was said of Fergie that he got stronger as the game progressed-counter intuitive but he sure pitched a lot of complete games. In 1974, major league pitchers threw 1,089 complete games. In 2021, they threw 50.
I appreciate the insight sabermetrics has given us as fans, but over-thinking and over-managing pitching staffs has contributed to the decline of interest in the game, with analysis trumping (and suppressing) individual athleticism.
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Post by Tom on Oct 27, 2021 8:14:34 GMT -5
Former Boston pitcher Johnny Sain routinely threw 20+ complete games a year. One time he called out modern day pitchers for not attacking the bottom of the line up. Basically saying you shouldn't be throwing more than 3 pitches to the scrubs in the bottom of the line up which keeps pitch counts low. In all fairness the #9 hitters he faced were all pitchers and even the #8 hitters were what AL fans would consider #9 hitters. On the other hand, he must have known something about pitching. After his playing days, he was the pitching coach for five different pennant winning teams
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Post by alum on Oct 27, 2021 14:37:37 GMT -5
Former Boston pitcher Johnny Sain routinely threw 20+ complete games a year. One time he called out modern day pitchers for not attacking the bottom of the line up. Basically saying you shouldn't be throwing more than 3 pitches to the scrubs in the bottom of the line up which keeps pitch counts low. In all fairness the #9 hitters he faced were all pitchers and even the #8 hitters were what AL fans would consider #9 hitters. On the other hand, he must have known something about pitching. After his playing days, he was the pitching coach for five different pennant winning teams There are a bunch (at least a few dozen I would guess) of 75+ year old fans in Greater Boston who are pleased you simply called him a "Boston pitcher" feeling no need to add the team nickname. (I also checked to see if they were the Bees at any time he played for them--he missed that by a year.)
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 31, 2021 15:14:19 GMT -5
Jerry Remy died today after battling lung cancer for 13 years. Was one of the guys in the Sox TV booth for a long time.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 31, 2021 15:35:25 GMT -5
🙏✝️
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Nov 1, 2021 14:14:13 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 1, 2021 14:14:13 GMT -5
3 teams in MLB won 100+ games. None managed to win a pennant That is the result of a crap shoot playoff system. Having the teams with best records in baseball play in the 5 game divisional series was absurd. I know that only one of them could make the WS, but a 7 game Series would have been preferable. The Rays also should not have had to play a 5 game series. My age is the reason I yearn for only a World Series between the best teams from each league.. And you had a team with 106 wins having to play in a one game play-off against a team with less than 90 wins. Of course, pre-1994, you had a number of teams winning 100+ that didnt get the chance to go to the playoffs so it goes both ways.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 1, 2021 15:04:10 GMT -5
That is the result of a crap shoot playoff system. Having the teams with best records in baseball play in the 5 game divisional series was absurd. I know that only one of them could make the WS, but a 7 game Series would have been preferable. The Rays also should not have had to play a 5 game series. My age is the reason I yearn for only a World Series between the best teams from each league.. And you had a team with 106 wins having to play in a one game play-off against a team with less than 90 wins. Of course, pre-1994, you had a number of teams winning 100+ that didnt get the chance to go to the playoffs so it goes both ways. But, as you well know pre 1994 the team in each league with the most wins went to the WS.
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Post by Tom on Nov 1, 2021 15:20:40 GMT -5
1995 was the first year of the wildcard (and 3 divisions per league)
From 1969 to 1993 there were two divisions in each league and the division winners faced off to determine the pennant. In one notorious pre 1994 year (1973) , the NL east winning Mets' record was something like 15 games worse than the west winning Reds, but the Mets went to the World Series
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Nov 1, 2021 15:29:21 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 1, 2021 15:29:21 GMT -5
1995 was the first year of the wildcard (and 3 divisions per league) From 1969 to 1993 there were two divisions in each league and the division winners faced off to determine the pennant. In one notorious pre 1994 year (1973) , the NL east winning Mets' record was something like 15 games worse than the west winning Reds, but the Mets went to the World Series 1994 was the first year of 3 divisions and WOULD'VE been the first wild card season. But of course....it wasn't.
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