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Post by trimster on Apr 4, 2021 16:20:50 GMT -5
The D1 FCS ranks in New England will increase with New Haven's jump in class. The announcement has generated a lot of discussion on the state of FCS football in the Northeast on the Ivy Board. If you haven't been there, it is under the links to other PL Boards.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 4, 2021 17:36:34 GMT -5
Can you post the announcement? Google turns up nothing referring to their move except for stuff pre-pandemic.
They were a hell of a D2 football program once upon a time; yes, there have been several changes since.
The one school in that league I've never figured out why they didn't give D1 a shot was Bentley.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 4, 2021 18:11:25 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2021 20:59:03 GMT -5
Sheahon Zenger was AD at both Illinois State and Kansas University before New Haven. So a good comfort zone with D-1. The article doesn't identify Sheahon's gender. I clicked on the bio about 55% expecting the other gender as I had never heard the name Sheahon before. In any case the AD has strong experience in D-1 Athletics. Welcome aboard UNH if you do move up.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 5, 2021 9:07:10 GMT -5
They are moving up and just waiting to dot the i's and cross the t's as they say...I think they end up in the NEC replacing Robert Morris who recently left.
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Post by Tom on Apr 5, 2021 11:07:08 GMT -5
Moving up us just the in thing to do.
When I was at HC, I think the only D-I schools in CT were UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Hartford and Central Ct jumped shortly after I graduated, so I guess that now counts as a long time ago. UMass Lowell, Merrimack, and Bryant are also fairly new D-I schools in New England. Everybody wants to move up
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Post by matunuck on Apr 5, 2021 11:58:43 GMT -5
Any idea how much more money such a jump would cost the school?
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Post by trimster on Apr 5, 2021 12:16:48 GMT -5
Moving up us just the in thing to do. When I was at HC, I think the only D-I schools in CT were UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Hartford and Central Ct jumped shortly after I graduated, so I guess that now counts as a long time ago. UMass Lowell, Merrimack, and Bryant are also fairly new D-I schools in New England. Everybody wants to move up Wonder if D1 is in the cards for Assumption University? |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 5, 2021 12:36:53 GMT -5
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Very doubtful.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 5, 2021 13:32:35 GMT -5
Moving up us just the in thing to do. When I was at HC, I think the only D-I schools in CT were UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Hartford and Central Ct jumped shortly after I graduated, so I guess that now counts as a long time ago. UMass Lowell, Merrimack, and Bryant are also fairly new D-I schools in New England. Everybody wants to move up Also Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart in CT moved up to D1. |
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Post by Tom on Apr 5, 2021 14:28:14 GMT -5
Moving up us just the in thing to do. When I was at HC, I think the only D-I schools in CT were UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Hartford and Central Ct jumped shortly after I graduated, so I guess that now counts as a long time ago. UMass Lowell, Merrimack, and Bryant are also fairly new D-I schools in New England. Everybody wants to move up Also Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart in CT moved up to D1. Absolutely. New Haven will be the 8th D-I school in CT. When I was at HC, there were only 3. I mentioned Hartford and CCSU because many people on the board would say they are long time D-I schools even if I don't. Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart are both very recent like the other New England schools I mentioned. NH, VT, and ME have not jumped on the bandwagon. Still have the same 4 schools between them that they have had for many years |
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 5, 2021 16:07:04 GMT -5
Moving up us just the in thing to do. When I was at HC, I think the only D-I schools in CT were UConn, Yale, and Fairfield. Hartford and Central Ct jumped shortly after I graduated, so I guess that now counts as a long time ago. UMass Lowell, Merrimack, and Bryant are also fairly new D-I schools in New England. Everybody wants to move up Well, Hartford has been in America East since the 1985 so that is nearly 40 years now! |
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Post by deep Purple on Apr 6, 2021 19:08:00 GMT -5
The one school in that league I've never figured out why they didn't give D1 a shot was Bentley. If Bentley moved up, I think they would make a decent PL addition. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:35:37 GMT -5
D2 is a dead world for all sports with hardly much national participation...for lower tier academic schools (or mid-tier schools)...D1 athletics attracts top notch student-athletes and fills the student body with talented kids...New Haven should go for it...look at Quinnipiac...hard to believe that Quinnipiac was a member of the NE-10 attracting only regional attention...now it is a nationally recognized university... good luck New Haven!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 9:40:33 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL?
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Post by trimster on Apr 9, 2021 10:02:08 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? i would be interested in one of the above named schools joining the PL. Hint. Its name doesn't begin with B or M. |
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Post by timholycross on Apr 10, 2021 15:42:56 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? I'm sure any NESCAC school that applied would be welcomed with open arms; however, I doubt any of them would. The only school of that type I could ever see wanting to join would be Union; and only if they were put in a position where they needed to be in D1 to keep D1 membership in hockey. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 10, 2021 16:31:03 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? They're not idiots. They aren't leaving the CAA & A10 to join the pL. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 10, 2021 18:56:50 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? They're not idiots. They aren't leaving the CAA & A10 to join the pL. We never agree but you are spot on here! |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 11, 2021 7:26:07 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? I'm guessing there is absolutely zero appetite at Middlebury for a move to Division I. Just a guess though. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 11, 2021 7:33:16 GMT -5
If you really want to shake things up, add a school like Middlebury to the PL. Is there really much difference between HC's student body and Middlebury? Middlebury would be on the smaller scale, but would much rather add schools with academic quality than a Bentley or Bryant. How about the Richmond Spiders in the PL? I'm sure any NESCAC school that applied would be welcomed with open arms; however, I doubt any of them would. The only school of that type I could ever see wanting to join would be Union; and only if they were put in a position where they needed to be in D1 to keep D1 membership in hockey. RIT would also be a good addition to the PL if they decided to move up to D-I, especially since the city of Rochester doesn't have a D-I basketball school. Before very recently, it was basically impossible to move from D3 => D1 because NCAA first required you to transition to D2 before a second transition to D1. D-III St. Thomas in MN was recently invited to the Summit League and got a waiver from NCAA to make the jump. So the door would be open for the RIT, Union, or Johns Hopkins of the world if they ever wanted to make the move to full DI membership. As far as schools like Union being "forced" to move to DI to keep DI hockey (or lax), I don't see it happening. The Dayton Rule grandfathered these schools in and effectively block any schools in the future from placing individual sports in different divisions. |
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