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Post by trimster on May 8, 2021 8:33:11 GMT -5
I guess the UH softball played a game recently, probably yesterday, with a piece of duct tape over Hartford on their jersey.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2021 10:45:10 GMT -5
I guess the UH softball played a game recently, probably yesterday, with a piece of duct tape over Hartford on their jersey. It was too muddy to kneel.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 18, 2021 9:35:11 GMT -5
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Post by thecrossisback on May 18, 2021 9:42:23 GMT -5
Make a decision and stand by it. When the school makes a decision like this students are not allowed to share how they feel about it? They obviously didn't do a good enough job selling this decision to the students.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 18, 2021 9:54:10 GMT -5
Doubt many students at UHART care much at all about this decision outside of the student athletes themselves. I'm sure these were the ones booing.
Their pain is understandable. Forced to either a) transfer to continue D-I level athletics, b) continue studies at UHART on scholarship but unable to play NCAA sports c) continue to play your sport at DIII NCAA level but give up your scholarship.
Of course the President can't consult student-athletes on this decision. What D-I athlete is going to support this decision? Not one is the answer to that question. He has to bite the bullet, tie himself to reality, and do what's best for the university.
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Post by HC92 on May 18, 2021 10:00:08 GMT -5
If the boo birds want to write some big checks, I’m guessing that would have more of an impact on the decision than booing. Schools like Hartford need money. If they can’t get it through major donations, they have to reduce expenses. Unfortunately, athletics are a big expense at the D1 level and more schools in financial distress are going to have to seriously consider the same decision.
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Post by rgs318 on May 18, 2021 12:38:49 GMT -5
Of course the President can't consult student-athletes on this decision. What D-I athlete is going to support this decision? Not one is the answer to that question. He has to bite the bullet, tie himself to reality, and do what's best for the university. There can be a difference between what is best and what someone believes is best. That is where the conflict comes in and the situation can typically only be judged in hindsight. Think of the decision by Fr Brooks concerning sports scholarships. He believed that was best for HC and its students. With hindsight, many feel it was not. I hope this works out in whatever works best for Hartford.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 21, 2022 10:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Jun 24, 2022 8:28:51 GMT -5
Div. I has no magic for me. Hope HC athletes never get entangled in NIl. Play for pay professionalized athletes have no place at HC. Hope HC's athletes do not get entangled in play for pay. NIL may force HC & its competitors (PL, IL & others.)to move to Div. III. For me it's all about competition. I will support HC and its teams at any level of competition. Will others make the same commitment to the school?
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 24, 2022 8:33:26 GMT -5
Yes. I, for one, will support HC wherever that may take me.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 24, 2022 8:52:31 GMT -5
I am not of the impression that a move to D-3 would exempt a school from the evils of the NIL. Perhaps some of our experts might weigh in on that but pretty sure that it is not division-specific. And if my assumption is correct, there would be no reason to move to D-3.
In Chesney's video interview, he made the point that a player getting $5-$10K from the local car dealer pales in comparison to the Holy Cross education and the strong mentoring network we have with 90-wide and other alumni activities where a post-grad career will pay off many more times than an NIL payoff.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 24, 2022 10:07:45 GMT -5
Yes but that requires a long term mindset and not everyone has one
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Post by timholycross on Jun 24, 2022 12:27:30 GMT -5
Our kids aren't being short changed when you look at the big picture. And most of them are smart enough to realize it.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 24, 2022 14:42:26 GMT -5
Div. I has no magic for me. Hope HC athletes never get entangled in NIl. Play for pay professionalized athletes have no place at HC. Hope HC's athletes do not get entangled in play for pay. NIL may force HC & its competitors (PL, IL & others.)to move to Div. III. For me it's all about competition. I will support HC and its teams at any level of competition. Will others make the same commitment to the school? As long as it doesn't become boring to watch and follow. Don’t discount the joy from an occasional mention in a media vehicle with a national reach. I suppose there are D-3 podcasts and websites, but I'm not sure what my level of interest would be. Crossports recruiting threads would get excited when we stole a D-2 level talent from St. Mikes and those mythical parents at cocktail parties who brag about their child playing D-1 at Holy Cross would switch to discussing the weather.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2022 15:27:54 GMT -5
Div. I has no magic for me. Hope HC athletes never get entangled in NIl. Play for pay professionalized athletes have no place at HC. Hope HC's athletes do not get entangled in play for pay. NIL may force HC & its competitors (PL, IL & others.)to move to Div. III. For me it's all about competition. I will support HC and its teams at any level of competition. Will others make the same commitment to the school? Avery had a NIL deal at HC.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2022 15:28:40 GMT -5
I am not of the impression that a move to D-3 would exempt a school from the evils of the NIL. Perhaps some of our experts might weigh in on that but pretty sure that it is not division-specific. And if my assumption is correct, there would be no reason to move to D-3. In Chesney's video interview, he made the point that a player getting $5-$10K from the local car dealer pales in comparison to the Holy Cross education and the strong mentoring network we have with 90-wide and other alumni activities where a post-grad career will pay off many more times than an NIL payoff. I have D3 athletes that wanted to use my images in their NIL deals so they are out there.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2022 15:31:01 GMT -5
Div. I has no magic for me. Hope HC athletes never get entangled in NIl. Play for pay professionalized athletes have no place at HC. Hope HC's athletes do not get entangled in play for pay. NIL may force HC & its competitors (PL, IL & others.)to move to Div. III. For me it's all about competition. I will support HC and its teams at any level of competition. Will others make the same commitment to the school? As long as it doesn't become boring to watch and follow. Don’t discount the joy from an occasional mention in a media vehicle with a national reach. I suppose there are D-3 podcasts and websites, but I'm not sure what my level of interest would be. Crossports recruiting threads would get excited when we stole a D-2 level talent from St. Mikes and those mythical parents at cocktail parties who brag about their child playing D-1 at Holy Cross would switch to discussing the weather. Two time National Player of the Year for D-3 and Amherst College's top men's soccer player and (graduated from Amherst) just transferred to Maryland for a postgrad year. http://instagr.am/p/CfMMtTvr_7n
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jun 24, 2022 15:46:30 GMT -5
^
Who gives a rat's ass.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 24, 2022 15:52:06 GMT -5
I am not of the impression that a move to D-3 would exempt a school from the evils of the NIL. Perhaps some of our experts might weigh in on that but pretty sure that it is not division-specific. And if my assumption is correct, there would be no reason to move to D-3. In Chesney's video interview, he made the point that a player getting $5-$10K from the local car dealer pales in comparison to the Holy Cross education and the strong mentoring network we have with 90-wide and other alumni activities where a post-grad career will pay off many more times than an NIL payoff. I have D3 athletes that wanted to use my images in their NIL deals so they are out there. Another line of business opens up for you.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2022 15:52:25 GMT -5
People were discounting the TALENT at the D-3 level. That is clearly a kid that went from D-3 right into a top ten D-1 program who is likely going to be playing pro soccer after this fall. Why can't HC get any talent in those sports while being a D-1?
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Post by mm67 on Jun 24, 2022 16:13:31 GMT -5
Doubt if DivIII would generate much NIL money.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 24, 2022 17:35:53 GMT -5
The Amherst kid didn't play in 2020 (no one in NESCAC did) so he's got another year left even if the rules weren't changed. More power to him getting an advanced degree for little if nothing.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 24, 2022 17:59:38 GMT -5
The Amherst kid didn't play in 2020 (no one in NESCAC did) so he's got another year left even if the rules weren't changed. More power to him getting an advanced degree for little if nothing. Shows the power of the education at Amherst that he was the national player of the year as a sophomore, sat out in 2020, and still came back in 2021 to win it again. Holy Cross loses kids to BC after one year in baseball.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 24, 2022 19:34:45 GMT -5
Please seek professional counseling. You really need help-acute dweebery is nothing to laugh at.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 25, 2022 8:27:10 GMT -5
People were discounting the TALENT at the D-3 level. That is clearly a kid that went from D-3 right into a top ten D-1 program who is likely going to be playing pro soccer after this fall. Why can't HC get any talent in those sports while being a D-1? Apparently, HC has been in that sport in recent years. (Bechir and the guy this year). Keeping them around is another matter.
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