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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 13, 2021 1:28:27 GMT -5
From talking to the former HC ticket manager, in late 2019, HC was planning to rollout a new ticket access platform for the fall of 2020. We all know why it has been delayed.
The traditional paper tickets will become a collectors items for commemorative scrap books.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 13, 2021 6:54:06 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Apr 13, 2021 6:54:39 GMT -5
While I certainly agree that Bucknell could safely admit a few hundred HC family members with appropriate rules (e.g., don't come on campus more than 30 minutes before game, proceed directly to the stadium, sit socially distanced, wear masks, have a negative Covid test within 72 hours and/or proof of a vaccine, leave immediately following the game, no use of alcohol before or after the game) I am amazed that each and every parent of the eighty something players authorized td128 to speak on their behalf. I imagine that getting that consensus must have taken a little time.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 13, 2021 7:14:31 GMT -5
Electronic tickets suck.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 13, 2021 7:22:57 GMT -5
You must still have a flip phone ny.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 13, 2021 7:57:06 GMT -5
Bucknell Spectator Policy bucknellbison.com/news/2021/3/11/athletics-spectators.aspxLEWISBURG, Pa. – Beginning Saturday, March 13, up to four family members of Bucknell student-athletes and coaches, as well as Bucknell students, staff and faculty who are participating in on-campus COVID-19 testing, will be permitted to attend outdoor athletics events on campus with certain restrictions. These changes are consistent with recent updates to both Bucknell University campus visitor and guest policy and the revised maximum occupancy limits for outdoor events in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. In order to protect the health of our students and campus community, the following restrictions will be in place. Who may attend? Each Bucknell student-athlete and coach may invite up to four family members for each home outdoor event. Bucknell students who are enrolled and following weekly on-campus COVID-19 testing. Individual Bucknell faculty and staff members participating in on-campus COVID-19 testing. Visiting team spectators and general fans are not permitted access to facilities or events at this time. What are the facility restrictions and limitations? Up to 20 percent of the venue's maximum occupancy will be permitted on a first-come, first-served basis. Once the maximum occupancy number is reached, no additional spectators will be permitted in the facility. Family members will not be permitted to come in close contact with any member of the Bucknell community (including student-athletes) at any time before, during or after the competition. Specific entrances and viewing areas will be designated for family members not associated with the Bucknell on-campus community. Separate entry points and viewing areas will be reserved for Bucknell students and faculty/staff. Concessions will not be sold, and bringing food into the venue is prohibited. Tailgating and/or other gatherings will not be permitted on University property at any time before, during or after the competition. Venue restrooms and/or portable restrooms will be available. Spectators are not permitted inside any University building, including Athletics buildings (i.e. KLARC, Davis Gym, Gerhard Fieldhouse, Sojka Pavilion, Kinney Natatorium) and residential or academic buildings. What else is required of spectators at Bucknell outdoor events? Prior to coming to campus, spectators are asked to complete a daily self-screening for possible COVID-19 symptoms as outlined by the CDC. If you or anyone in your party presents or has been in contact with someone with COVID-19 symptoms, please do not come to campus for the safety of our community. Face coverings are required to be worn at all times everywhere on campus, including the parking lot areas, West Fields and within the athletic venue. The modified Pennsylvania order mandates that attendees and workers must comply with the 6-foot physical distancing requirement in order to permit spectators. Please respect and observe physical distancing guidelines by maintaining six feet in all directions between other spectators outside your family unit. There is to be no contact within 15 feet of any student-athlete or coach, prior to or at the completion of games, at any location. Please contact Bucknell University immediately at 570-577-3067 if anyone in your visiting party shows symptoms of or tests positive for COVID-19 within 14 days after attending an event so that contact tracing protocols can be investigated. Please note that Bucknell University reserves the right to evaluate, revise, and/or suspend spectator access at any time, in order to effectively respond to the current pandemic and protect our on-campus community.
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Post by hc2020 on Apr 13, 2021 7:59:36 GMT -5
Here is the email response I received from the second-in-command at the Patriot League office addressing the inequities of the Bucknell spectator policy for the Patriot League Championship Game. Clearly, the League has elected to punt on this issue and not get involved: Dear Sir, The attendance of spectators at all Patriot League outdoor regular-season or championship sporting events is determined by the host institution’s policies. Athletics policies must align with campus-wide policies regarding visitors, which are designed to keep each campus community as safe as possible. While we work together as a League on many decisions related to athletics, COVID-19 brings to light the differences in local circumstances and regulations that must be navigated and considered as we move forward at both the institutional and League levels. We appreciate your understanding in supporting each campus’ efforts to preserve the opportunity for in-person instruction and athletics competition. The Patriot League Football Championship game will be aired on CBS Sports Network live on Saturday, April 17 at 2 p.m. Eastern time. Thank you. cid:image001.png@01D654F3.FC6E6E10 Rich Wanninger Senior Associate Commissioner, External Relations Patriot League 1 Bethlehem Plaza, Suite 800 | Bethlehem, PA 18018 w: 610.289.1956 rwanninger@patriotleague.com www.patriotleague.comTwitter @patriotleague "Today's Scholar-Athletes, Tomorrow's Leaders" – The Patriot League continually demonstrates that student-athletes can excel at both academics and athletics without sacrificing its high standards. The League's athletic success is achieved while its member institutions remain committed to its founding principle of admitting and graduating student-athletes that are academically representative of their class. Participation in athletics at Patriot League institutions is viewed as an important component of a well-rounded education. Patriot League institutions value athletic competition because we know it builds leadership, teamwork, decision-making skills and sportsmanship.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 13, 2021 8:01:36 GMT -5
I applaud Larry and his efforts. He doesn't need the parents authorization. If they don't agree with Larry's policy and thoughts they simply don't have to go to the game. Larry was fighting for the majority of those that do want to attend as their voice.
Leaders can't please everyone.
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 13, 2021 8:03:24 GMT -5
They have a 13,000 seat stadium. In 2019 the last full season they could not even get 5,000 fans. They have NO football fanbase.
Its the championship game, let some of the HC parents go.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 13, 2021 8:14:09 GMT -5
While I certainly agree that Bucknell could safely admit a few hundred HC family members with appropriate rules (e.g., don't come on campus more than 30 minutes before game, proceed directly to the stadium, sit socially distanced, wear masks, have a negative Covid test within 72 hours and/or proof of a vaccine, leave immediately following the game, no use of alcohol before or after the game) I am amazed that each and every parent of the eighty something players authorized td128 to speak on their behalf. I imagine that getting that consensus must have taken a little time. What a strange post.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 13, 2021 8:14:49 GMT -5
I see my efforts to have a thread focused on the actual football have been a huge success.
We can write all the virtual letters we want. Nothing is changing. If the league wanted to show some leadership, they would have done it before awarding Bucknell the right to host the game. They chose not to do so and now Bucknell gets to make the rules. Bucknell has made clear that they will not allow visiting fans but will allow four fans per home player and coach plus every Bucknell student and faculty member. All we can do now is go out and kick the crap out of them and then dance all over their precious field.
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Post by dharry13 on Apr 13, 2021 8:22:03 GMT -5
Yep. Pound them by 40 and laugh all the way home and to the playoffs.
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Post by alum on Apr 13, 2021 9:01:08 GMT -5
I applaud Larry and his efforts. He doesn't need the parents authorization. If they don't agree with Larry's policy and thoughts they simply don't have to go to the game. Larry was fighting for the majority of those that do want to attend as their voice. Leaders can't please everyone. Then he should not have claimed, as he did in both letters, that he was writing for "the parents." This is especially true since he threatened the AD with a media comeuppance by some national figure.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 13, 2021 10:08:13 GMT -5
Less than 48 hours and the team is out of Dodge and headed for the game. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 13, 2021 10:17:26 GMT -5
Those who look for logic, consistency, and science for the actions of our institutions of higher learning during Covid times are consistently disappointed. Bucknell’s current outdoor spectator policy for the game is just more of the same.
Beyond that, fingers crossed our team can defeat the Covid protocols and then play and win.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 13, 2021 10:21:07 GMT -5
While I certainly agree that Bucknell could safely admit a few hundred HC family members with appropriate rules (e.g., don't come on campus more than 30 minutes before game, proceed directly to the stadium, sit socially distanced, wear masks, have a negative Covid test within 72 hours and/or proof of a vaccine, leave immediately following the game, no use of alcohol before or after the game) I am amazed that each and every parent of the eighty something players authorized td128 to speak on their behalf. I imagine that getting that consensus must have taken a little time. You forgot scuba gear.
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Post by newsaderdad on Apr 13, 2021 10:26:38 GMT -5
As a senior parent this situation is very disappointing however our efforts (parents) in my opinion are better focused on what we can control and leave Bucknell and the PL admins with their own issues. Thanks to Larry and all those that are efforting for the policy to change.
Things to report about the actual game; HEALTHY as can be. Prep for Bucknell was initially done at least 3 weeks ago and just tweaked over the last week or so. Players are in as good a spirits as can possibly be and are excited not anxious to go to Lewisburg and take care of Business. Thursday after practice is etd with a few hours Thursday balance of trip on Friday Friday walk thru and get as prepped and rested for a BIG GAME Saturday.
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Apr 13, 2021 10:27:45 GMT -5
I applaud Larry and his efforts. He doesn't need the parents authorization. If they don't agree with Larry's policy and thoughts they simply don't have to go to the game. Larry was fighting for the majority of those that do want to attend as their voice. Leaders can't please everyone. Then he should not have claimed, as he did in both letters, that he was writing for "the parents." This is especially true since he threatened the AD with a media comeuppance by some national figure. Larry, thank you for your countless hours of work, dedication and leadership. Remember, no good deed will go unpunished. illegitimi non carborundum
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 13, 2021 10:29:16 GMT -5
I applaud Larry and his efforts. He doesn't need the parents authorization. If they don't agree with Larry's policy and thoughts they simply don't have to go to the game. Larry was fighting for the majority of those that do want to attend as their voice. Leaders can't please everyone. Then he should not have claimed, as he did in both letters, that he was writing for "the parents." This is especially true since he threatened the AD with a media comeuppance by some national figure. So if someone, perhaps a civic leader, says he is doing something (maybe building a park or a new library) "for the children" that means he has polled all of the kids and gotten their authorization??
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Post by rickii on Apr 13, 2021 10:36:29 GMT -5
Hmm....is there something going on under the surface here ?
Was it ever explained how Bucknell got to host ?
FWIW, I'm getting vibes that HC maybe isn't on perceived equal footing at league's HQ nor amoung the Pennsy brotherhood.
BTW, what has our AD said about this bunk ?
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Post by gks on Apr 13, 2021 10:49:02 GMT -5
Hmm....is there something going on under the surface here ? Was it ever explained how Bucknell got to host ? FWIW, I'm getting vibes that HC maybe isn't on perceived equal footing at league's HQ nor amoung the Pennsy brotherhood. BTW, what has our AD said about this bunk ? IMO Holy Cross had no intention of ever hosting this game. The Patriot League better not go to any High School Football games in Massachusetts....Kids are getting great support from parents and students. I hope HC beats the living crap out of Bucknell.....send a message to everyone.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Apr 13, 2021 11:17:18 GMT -5
So Bucknell wanted to keep any and all outsiders to a minimum during COVID? HC just had an outbreak that shut down all athletics except for this game, and paused the whole campus, but Bucknell should let HC fans attend the game? Bucknell gets to claim safety and at the same time, keep out any opposing fans when they have a chance to upset HC for a "league title" on their home field?
Some of it may be gamesmanship, some of it perhaps illogical, and some of it out of an abundance of caution... and we want to write the national media about it? What would the story be? "Venue keeps spectators out because of COVID?" The earth would have run out of ink if there was a national news story published for every time that's happened over the last 13 months.
Argue you don't agree with the science-- that we're all outdoors, that we'll be seated sparsely, that we have the vaccine-- that COVID is a hoax-- whatever you want. There are countless places and municipalities that have been either overly cautious or draconian in their handling of the situation depending on your political view. Add Bucknell to that endless list.
What's left is to not whine about it. Watch it on TV, root for the Crusaders to win (as we would all do anyway), and settle any scores on the field.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 13, 2021 11:17:52 GMT -5
with the lockdown ending today, can we assume the team (and others active teams) will have a full practice tmro ?
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Post by HC92 on Apr 13, 2021 11:26:23 GMT -5
So Bucknell wanted to keep any and all outsiders to a minimum during COVID? HC just had an outbreak that shut down all athletics except for this game, and paused the whole campus, but Bucknell should let HC fans attend the game? Bucknell gets to claim safety and at the same time, keep out any opposing fans when they have a chance to upset HC for a "league title" on their home field? Some of it may be gamesmanship, some of it perhaps illogical, and some of it out of an abundance of caution... and we want to write the national media about it? What would the story be? "Venue keeps spectators out because of COVID?" The earth would have run out of ink if there was a national news story published for every time that's happened over the last 13 months. Argue you don't agree with the science-- that we're all outdoors, that we'll be seated sparsely, that we have the vaccine-- that COVID is a hoax-- whatever you want. There are countless places and municipalities that have been either overly cautious or draconian in their handling of the situation depending on your political view. Add Bucknell to that endless list. What's left is to not whine about it. Watch it on TV, root for the Crusaders to win (as we would all do anyway), and settle any scores on the field. I think what the league should have done is tell Bucknell they can have as many or as few people outside the student and staff bubble as they want for this game. But, whatever that number is, it needs to be split equally between the two teams in a league championship game. This makes particular sense, if you care at all about fairness, in this unique season where the league has taken away games from HC and then used the fact that we had only played two games as the reason to make Bucknell the host.
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Post by thecrossisback on Apr 13, 2021 11:31:25 GMT -5
I just hope it does not set a precedent that in the fall (5 months from now) HC fans will not be able to travel to these PL games.
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