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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 26, 2021 21:42:20 GMT -5
Took a quick look and they seem to conclude transmission with 6 hours of indoor classroom time (w/masks) daily would be quite rare. And that is assuming one of the students/teachers may be a carrier and nobody is vaccinated. I know there is an err-on-the safe side (AKA ignore the science) mentality amongst some - and these are unusual political times - but doesn’t this rationally suggest college kids should have been back in actual class (w/masks) for their 2-3 daily classroom hours long long ago? And (not to pile on), but this sort of study essentially makes the peculiar fantasy of masked and distanced fans in outdoor stadiums for 2-3 hour contests spreading covid more than a bit farfetched. And more superstition than science. Instead of your constant drumbeat about school opening ( knowing that the biggest impediment to it had been your profession) why don’t you tell us that you support the science by supporting vaccination. It would be nice to know what strategies you as a science teacher recommend to increase the percentage of Americans who are vaccinated. Maryland schools continue to have outbreaks wtop.com/maryland/2021/04/maryland-schools-experience-covid-19-outbreaks-while-slowly-bringing-students-back-to-classrooms/
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Post by lou on Apr 26, 2021 22:26:24 GMT -5
Michigan’s Covid Wards Are Filling Up With Younger Patients, who are now sicker Michigan’s Covid Wards Are Filling Up With Younger Patients nyti.ms/3aD6Tm3
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 27, 2021 0:37:12 GMT -5
Michigan’s Covid Wards Are Filling Up With Younger Patients, who are now sicker Michigan’s Covid Wards Are Filling Up With Younger Patients nyti.ms/3aD6Tm3Some will need a Doctor's note before they are cleared to storm the Statehouse again. Sobering article.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 27, 2021 12:37:08 GMT -5
An update from the CDC director today: "Generally, for vaccinated people, outdoor activities without a mask are safe. However, we continue to recommend masking in crowded outdoor settings and venues, such as packed stadiums and concerts where there is decreased ability to maintain physical distance and where many unvaccinated people may also be present," Walensky said. "We will continue to recommend this until widespread vaccination is achieved." www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/health/cdc-mask-guidance-fully-vaccinated-bn/index.html One wonders why it took so long for the CDC ‘experts’ to realize/announce this (we’re talking about fully vaccinated people out in the fresh air).
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Post by HC92 on Apr 27, 2021 12:43:46 GMT -5
Glad I can walk my dog without a mask. Big relief.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 27, 2021 17:41:49 GMT -5
Someone from the White House told me as of today we have the perfect alliance between politics and the virus
After 48 years connected to that world I am ill to my stomach
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Post by td128 on Apr 27, 2021 18:58:53 GMT -5
Someone from the White House told me as of today we have the perfect alliance between politics and the virus After 48 years connected to that world I am ill to my stomach Not a surprise to me as I’ve learned more than I ever needed to know of this systemic corruption. Think long and hard on this my fellow Crusaders. Playing politics in an attempted balancing act with your personal health. Know who wins that game? Well, follow the money. Special place in hell for those involved in these corrupt games. They run across the entire political spectrum. With the assistance of MSM this corrupted cabal would like to make these issues as right v left so as to create sufficient distractions while the corruption unfolds. In point of fact these are the ultimate in right v wrong endeavors. Navigate accordingly. ✝️👊🏻👊🏾✝️
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Post by timholycross on Apr 27, 2021 19:45:29 GMT -5
An update from the CDC director today: "Generally, for vaccinated people, outdoor activities without a mask are safe. However, we continue to recommend masking in crowded outdoor settings and venues, such as packed stadiums and concerts where there is decreased ability to maintain physical distance and where many unvaccinated people may also be present," Walensky said. "We will continue to recommend this until widespread vaccination is achieved." www.cnn.com/2021/04/27/health/cdc-mask-guidance-fully-vaccinated-bn/index.html One wonders why it took so long for the CDC ‘experts’ to realize/announce this (we’re talking about fully vaccinated people out in the fresh air). Maybe one of them took a vacation to Florida. SOP there.
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Post by alum on Apr 28, 2021 7:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Apr 28, 2021 10:41:58 GMT -5
While non-left news sources and commentators snicker at the latest and (very) belated discovery/announcement regarding the fully vaccinated and outdoor masking from the CDC, numerous scientists are similarly puzzled: But some experts say the new guidance is too cautious and doesn't offer a strong enough incentive for Americans who still are on the fence about getting a shot or who may have already been unmasking in those settings. "It doesn't go far enough," Dr. Jonathan Reiner, professor of medicine and surgery at George Washington University, told CNN on Tuesday night. "What it doesn't really underscore for Americans is what the CDC knows, which is that these vaccines induce immunity."www.cnn.com/2021/04/28/health/us-coronavirus-wednesday/index.html
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Post by alum on May 7, 2021 10:56:20 GMT -5
Hey--If you are in Washington DC and have received your vaccine, you can go to any of Chef Jose Andres' DC area restaurants and get a wonderful gift. He is trying to get the country to 70%. Chef Jose, of course, is the man whose World Central Kitchen goes to disaster spots home and abroad to feed those in need. twitter.com/chefjoseandres
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Post by Tom on May 7, 2021 14:51:04 GMT -5
I know I can be a miserable, cold hearted person, but is repeating the 5th grade a bad thing? I know all about the stigma that might be attached as the kid in the article sees all his buddies advance to the 6th when he doesn't. This kid seems like a perfect case where repeating the grade would be the best thing for him in the long run. There's a tiny New England city that has said all kids will be promoted, even if they did zero school work. That seems like a recipe for disaster. COIVD has caused all kinds of rules to change. The NCAA has given all athletes a "redo" on this year. We should be able to frame an academic redo so that it is not perceived as a bad thing. Some people, like the kid in the article, have been $crewed by COVID more than the rest of us. Repeating a year seems like an ideal solution if we can get rid of the perception that it is a bad thing.
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Post by hcpride on May 7, 2021 16:16:15 GMT -5
HCPride, Where did you AND that fabulous piece of research go? Don’t leave me/us hanging. Jesuit pursuit of truth, my friend. 😉 Sharing informed and well researched commentary across the entire spectrum of concepts and ideas keeps this board interesting and mitigates the din that might resonate within an echo chamber. 🤔 Thanks. Sorry about that (I thought I double-posted and deleted my only post after all). Here it is: nicholaswade.medium.com/origin-of-covid-following-the-clues-6f03564c038There has been a surprising lack of curiosity about the origins of the virus - one would imagine that would be the primary goal of some/all of our scientific sleuths. (The theory being if we know for certain how the virus arrived we might be able to prevent the next.) It does seem some serious scientists are doubting the Chinese government's narrative. And I do agree the best thing about a Jesuit education is (or at least was) learning not to trust the narrative.
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Post by longsuffering on May 7, 2021 17:29:44 GMT -5
I know I can be a miserable, cold hearted person, but is repeating the 5th grade a bad thing? I know all about the stigma that might be attached as the kid in the article sees all his buddies advance to the 6th when he doesn't. This kid seems like a perfect case where repeating the grade would be the best thing for him in the long run. There's a tiny New England city that has said all kids will be promoted, even if they did zero school work. That seems like a recipe for disaster. COIVD has caused all kinds of rules to change. The NCAA has given all athletes a "redo" on this year. We should be able to frame an academic redo so that it is not perceived as a bad thing. Some people, like the kid in the article, have been $crewed by COVID more than the rest of us. Repeating a year seems like an ideal solution if we can get rid of the perception that it is a bad thing. Some parents start their kids a year late in school for a perceived benefit anyway.
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Post by longsuffering on May 7, 2021 17:43:03 GMT -5
The India variant or combination of variants spread like wildfire at outdoor political and religious gatherings. So we're not out of the woods yet.
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Post by HC92 on May 8, 2021 7:26:35 GMT -5
I know I can be a miserable, cold hearted person, but is repeating the 5th grade a bad thing? I know all about the stigma that might be attached as the kid in the article sees all his buddies advance to the 6th when he doesn't. This kid seems like a perfect case where repeating the grade would be the best thing for him in the long run. There's a tiny New England city that has said all kids will be promoted, even if they did zero school work. That seems like a recipe for disaster. COIVD has caused all kinds of rules to change. The NCAA has given all athletes a "redo" on this year. We should be able to frame an academic redo so that it is not perceived as a bad thing. Some people, like the kid in the article, have been $crewed by COVID more than the rest of us. Repeating a year seems like an ideal solution if we can get rid of the perception that it is a bad thing. Some parents start their kids a year late in school for a perceived benefit anyway. From the perspective of local government, allowing kids to repeat causes them budget problems as they plan for each kid to spend 13 years in their K-12 program. They really don’t like when someone tries to add a 14th year. The kid who starts late doesn’t cause the same issue for them. Not saying it’s right or wrong but that’s why there is resistance to allowing kids to repeat a year.
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2021 8:16:49 GMT -5
Some parents start their kids a year late in school for a perceived benefit anyway. From the perspective of local government, allowing kids to repeat causes them budget problems as they plan for each kid to spend 13 years in their K-12 program. They really don’t like when someone tries to add a 14th year. The kid who starts late doesn’t cause the same issue for them. Not saying it’s right or wrong but that’s why there is resistance to allowing kids to repeat a year. Good to know it's about money and not the best interest of the individual student. Going back to the article and being serious for a moment, it was a story about how our education system is failing students during COVID while focusing on one example. This kid is falling behind because of COVID hardships on the family. The school system is saying get your act together or we'll have to keep him back. From the town's perspective, you are right this is a bad thing for the budget. From the kid's perspective (and this was an article about the effects on the kid) repeating is not a bad thing. The kid and his mother don't care if it puts a stress on the town budget. If we accept the premise that the school system failed this kid, then repeating the year would be a good faith effort to make good on the system failing the kid. It is framed like a bad thing for the kid. I don't think it is and I disagree with the implication that it is a punishment for mommy and junior not doing their part
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 8, 2021 8:38:44 GMT -5
In March 2020, Congress appropriated $13.2 billion for K-12 under the CARES Act. In December 2020, Congress appropriated an additional $54 billion for K-!2. The American Rescue Act, passed in March 2021, provides an additional $126 billion. The total is $193 billion for Federal COVID-related aid to states and local education agencies for students in grades K-!2. That's almost $4,000 per student. All three funding bills specify, through a maintenance of effort provision, that states and local education authorities cannot use Federal monies to replace state and local funds. In the American Rescue Act includes provisions for addressing the impact of lost instructional time. dataserver.lrp.com/DATA/servlet/DataServlet?fname=ARP+ESSER+Application+Template+04-21-2021.pdf
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Post by HC92 on May 8, 2021 10:09:02 GMT -5
From the perspective of local government, allowing kids to repeat causes them budget problems as they plan for each kid to spend 13 years in their K-12 program. They really don’t like when someone tries to add a 14th year. The kid who starts late doesn’t cause the same issue for them. Not saying it’s right or wrong but that’s why there is resistance to allowing kids to repeat a year. Good to know it's about money and not the best interest of the individual student. Going back to the article and being serious for a moment, it was a story about how our education system is failing students during COVID while focusing on one example. This kid is falling behind because of COVID hardships on the family. The school system is saying get your act together or we'll have to keep him back. From the town's perspective, you are right this is a bad thing for the budget. From the kid's perspective (and this was an article about the effects on the kid) repeating is not a bad thing. The kid and his mother don't care if it puts a stress on the town budget. If we accept the premise that the school system failed this kid, then repeating the year would be a good faith effort to make good on the system failing the kid. It is framed like a bad thing for the kid. I don't think it is and I disagree with the implication that it is a punishment for mommy and junior not doing their part I didn’t read the article but I know there are plenty of kids who would benefit from an extra year for all sorts of reasons. It doesn’t happen more because of the social stigma attached and parents fighting it as well as schools fighting it when parents want it because it’s cheaper to push kids through whether they’re ready or not.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2021 10:25:02 GMT -5
As far as government deficit spending goes, I wondered if the U.S. over-reacted to 9-11, so to be fair to both time periods I am wondering if we are over-reacting to Covid from a borrowing money to spend to make everything right point of view.
My father was born in July, 1908. Although the subject of the 1918 Spanish Flu never came up while he was alive that I can remember, a Google inquiry indicates most schools closed for an extended period during that pandemic also. Yet he graduated from high school in June of 1925 a month before he turned 17. So, kids can be resilient. At least we're not starting an endless war to respond to this crisis.
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Post by hcpride on May 8, 2021 12:28:24 GMT -5
The poor urban kids, many of whose k-12 schools went ‘all remote’, certainly were disparately impacted by the damaging (and unscientific) covid response we saw in certain districts. For those concerned about such things.
Don’t see cash (unless combined with time travel) doing much to reverse the long term harm to our most ‘at risk kids’. Even lots and lots of cash and government programs.
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Post by hcpride on May 11, 2021 10:11:47 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on May 13, 2021 14:50:54 GMT -5
At long last the brain trust at CDC has acknowledged that fully vaccinated people are, you know, fully vaccinated and no longer need to participate in indoor and outdoor maskuerades. Turns out (who knew?) those rather complicated explanations as to why the fully vaccinated must continue to wear masks were, to use an army term, Bravo Sierra. Calling it an "exciting and powerful moment," Walensky said the science supports the updated CDC guidance that "anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities -- large or small -- without wearing a mask or physical distancing." She cited three studies -- one from Israel and two from the United States -- that show vaccines work. www.cnn.com/2021/05/13/health/cdc-mask-guidance-vaccinated/index.html
(The blockbuster NYT article on the outrageously fake outdoor statistic two days ago and the pointed criticisms by a couple of senators yesterday seem to have had an effect.)
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Post by timholycross on May 14, 2021 9:41:46 GMT -5
Of course, Massachusetts being Nannychusetts isn't moving as quickly with some of these mask relaxations. Just sayin'.
Charlie Parker true to his self until the end.
Two anecdotal situations from the past couple months:
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Post by Tom on May 14, 2021 11:04:30 GMT -5
On the contrary side, the New York Yankees are saying that 8 fully vaccinated members of the team tested positive. I don't think any are symptomatic so I guess the vaccine is doing its thing.
Eight does seem like a big number from a small group
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