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Post by gerry on May 19, 2021 9:36:58 GMT -5
By that logic, no one should ever watch Holy Cross hoop. After all, what's the point since they have no chance to win the National Championship. I guess the Ivy League should discontinue football since they don't compete for National Titles.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 9:41:06 GMT -5
You have no idea how the team will be 3-4 years from now. Just because UConn would likely get rolled in ONE major buy game a year doesn't mean they should drop out of FBS. What's the difference between them playing Clemson or Holy Cross playing BC? And I highly doubt UConn could not put up competitive games with Wyoming, Duke, Maryland, Fresno State, Syracuse, etc Blown out by 1 FBS team check the records Gerry 2018 UCF 56 UCONN 7 Boise State 62 UCONN 7 Syracuse 51 UCONN 21 Cincinatti 49 UCONN 7 Memphis 55 UCONN 14 Tulsa 49 UCONN 19 They gave up 62 points to SMU Loss 62-50 East Carolina 55 UCONN 12 Temple 57-7 2019 Indiana 38-3 UCF 56-21 South Florida 48-22 Tulane 49-7 Navy 56-10 Cincinnati 48-3 Temple 49-27 Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 9:42:52 GMT -5
By that logic, no one should ever watch Holy Cross hoop. After all, what's the point since they have no chance to win the National Championship. I guess the Ivy League should discontinue football since they don't compete for National Titles. I love HC basketball its my favorite basketball team. But honestly do a lot of other people watch and care? Can they win a national championship the way the current tournament is constructed? Yes, they can but the chances are low. Uconn stinks, I just gave you the scores of the games. All facts not well they maybe will be good down the road. Now they are independent. Good luck. Ivy League can't discontinue football because UCONN needs opponents! @yale has just joined the chat.
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Post by gerry on May 19, 2021 9:51:16 GMT -5
First off, lose the condescension. There is no reason to be rude over something as trivial as college football. They were uncompetive in recent years. They have invested in facilities, have a nice stadium, a TV contract, and will likely see an uptick in recruiting in the coming years. I'm not saying they are going to be the next East Coast Power, but I do think they can get to a consistent 6-7 win level. They will play 2-3 local teams at home every season (which is all they would play if they rejoined the far flung CAA), while giving their fans the opportunity to see 1-2 P5 opponents come through on a yearly basis in addition to some G6 teams. It is essentially the same scheduling philosophy that Army (a program that at the time was every bit as uncompetitive as UConn currently is) adopted several years ago that has served them well. You have no idea how the team will be 3-4 years from now. Just because UConn would likely get rolled in ONE major buy game a year doesn't mean they should drop out of FBS. What's the difference between them playing Clemson or Holy Cross playing BC? And I highly doubt UConn could not put up competitive games with Wyoming, Duke, Maryland, Fresno State, Syracuse, etc Blown out by 1 FBS team check the records Gerry 2018 UCF 56 UCONN 7 Boise State 62 UCONN 7 Syracuse 51 UCONN 21 Cincinatti 49 UCONN 7 Memphis 55 UCONN 14 Tulsa 49 UCONN 19 They gave up 62 points to SMU Loss 62-50 East Carolina 55 UCONN 12 Temple 57-7 2019 Indiana 38-3 UCF 56-21 South Florida 48-22 Tulane 49-7 Navy 56-10 Cincinnati 48-3 Temple 49-27 Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Post by trimster on May 19, 2021 9:52:21 GMT -5
By that logic, no one should ever watch Holy Cross hoop. After all, what's the point since they have no chance to win the National Championship. I guess the Ivy League should discontinue football since they don't compete for National Titles. I love HC basketball its my favorite basketball team. But honestly do a lot of other people watch and care? Can they win a national championship the way the current tournament is constructed? Yes, they can but the chances are low. Uconn stinks, I just gave you the scores of the games. All facts not well they maybe will be good down the road. Now they are independent. Good luck. Ivy League can't discontinue football because UCONN needs opponents! @yale has just joined the chat. I love HC hoops as well but their chances of winning it all are a couple of stages below low. Having said that, they are still the one team in sports I root like hell for. (I know the grammar police are on my tail).
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 10:09:44 GMT -5
First off, lose the condescension. There is no reason to be rude over something as trivial as college football. They were uncompetive in recent years. They have invested in facilities, have a nice stadium, a TV contract, and will likely see an uptick in recruiting in the coming years. I'm not saying they are going to be the next East Coast Power, but I do think they can get to a consistent 6-7 win level. They will play 2-3 local teams at home every season (which is all they would play if they rejoined the far flung CAA), while giving their fans the opportunity to see 1-2 P5 opponents come through on a yearly basis in addition to some G6 teams. It is essentially the same scheduling philosophy that Army (a program that at the time was every bit as uncompetitive as UConn currently is) adopted several years ago that has served them well. Blown out by 1 FBS team check the records Gerry 2018 UCF 56 UCONN 7 Boise State 62 UCONN 7 Syracuse 51 UCONN 21 Cincinatti 49 UCONN 7 Memphis 55 UCONN 14 Tulsa 49 UCONN 19 They gave up 62 points to SMU Loss 62-50 East Carolina 55 UCONN 12 Temple 57-7 2019 Indiana 38-3 UCF 56-21 South Florida 48-22 Tulane 49-7 Navy 56-10 Cincinnati 48-3 Temple 49-27 Wake up and smell the coffee. If I came off as mean sorry. I was just stating that they have done northing for a few years now at the FBS level and that is a fact.
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Post by timholycross on May 20, 2021 11:21:36 GMT -5
UConn made the Fiesta Bowl with 4 losses (then got blown out in the bowl game for their 5th loss). They finished in a triple tie for first in the league at 5-2. No one in the league at the time was particularly good, no team in the conference ended up in the top 25 in the final rankings.
For a program that was relatively new in FBS, they were doing ok; but I wouldn't call them a power at the time by any means.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 20, 2021 12:04:33 GMT -5
UConn made the Fiesta Bowl with 4 losses (then got blown out in the bowl game for their 5th loss). They finished in a triple tie for first in the league at 5-2. No one in the league at the time was particularly good, no team in the conference ended up in the top 25 in the final rankings. For a program that was relatively new in FBS, they were doing ok; but I wouldn't call them a power at the time by any means. UCONN, after taking major lumps their first 2 seasons in I-A, had a really good stretch of progress from about 2002-2004. At the time they were on track to join a football conference that included Miami, Virginia, Tech, Syracuse, BC, Rutgers, West Virginia and Pitt. A lot to be excited about. Then the ACC poached the Big East, and UCONN was still in a decent league with the likes of USF, Cincinnati and Louisivlle. Since about 2006 Husky football has been trending down. The Fiesta Bowl berth was a fluke as the Big East stunk that year. By the time the AAC formed, UCONN was non-competitive. And rock bottom is now. If UCONN went FCS this fall, they wouldn't sniff the Top 40.
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Post by breezy on May 24, 2021 16:11:35 GMT -5
On Twitter today -- no idea as to its accuracy.
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Post by rgs318 on May 24, 2021 16:26:31 GMT -5
I hope that is the case...and that HC picks up a win to go along with the cash.
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Post by HC92 on May 24, 2021 18:22:33 GMT -5
If we can get $425K to play a bottom 10 FBS team an hour from HC, sign me up. Multiple times every year. I suspect the guarantees will be lower for a while going forward but happy we locked that one in.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 24, 2021 19:43:13 GMT -5
If we can get $425K to play a bottom 10 FBS team an hour from HC, sign me up. Multiple times every year. I suspect the guarantees will be lower for a while going forward but happy we locked that one in. Local opponent. FBS. Chance to actually be competitive or win. Local opponent. Easy drive for NYC and Boston area alum. 425K. I'm in.
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Post by longsuffering on May 24, 2021 20:29:26 GMT -5
Travel to that game will cost HC less than any PL road game and will provide more opportunity to move up in the FCS rankings than any PL contest, plus the cash.
Which ever AD/Head Coach combo handled that scheduling puts William Shatner's "The Negotiator" in the Priceline commercials to shame.
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Post by HC92 on May 25, 2021 22:13:17 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 26, 2021 0:02:33 GMT -5
Yes, indeed, certainly compares favorably to Portland State flying 2,600 miles to play Hawaii for $200,000
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Post by longsuffering on May 26, 2021 0:19:04 GMT -5
UConn pays HC $475K but only pays Yale $285K. A form of in-State P.I.L.O T.?
UMass pays day tripper Rhody more than long haul Maine.
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Post by purplehaze on May 26, 2021 8:22:20 GMT -5
It's all about 'when' the contracts were signed and 'who needed who' more - I know the UConn-Yale game just came about in the last year (or maybe months)
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Post by sader1970 on May 26, 2021 9:55:09 GMT -5
Uh, it's Hawaii. You know, paradise. Are we sure Portland State is not paying the $200K? On a more semi-serious note, $400K+ for a "local" game against a presumably weak FBS team, we should take that deal every year. My recollection from the last time we played them (very closely), there were lots and lots of Crusader fans and I believe at the time my observation was that about 40% of the total fans were rooting for the Purple.
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Post by timholycross on May 26, 2021 10:26:46 GMT -5
Wonder if it's 200K plus or excluding expenses? Big difference.
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Post by deep Purple on May 26, 2021 10:47:30 GMT -5
The attendance for the 2017 game was 24,435.
UConn's next home game that year was against East Carolina, attendance 14,036.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 26, 2021 12:20:57 GMT -5
Wonder if it's 200K plus or excluding expenses? Big difference. I'll bet that it is the full and final payment-otherwise there would be arguments over what constitutes appropriate expenses.
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Post by joe on May 26, 2021 14:33:49 GMT -5
We should play UConn and UMass regularly if the math works that well.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 26, 2021 16:02:32 GMT -5
We should play UConn and UMass regularly if the math works that well. But UMass/UConn don't want to play Holy Cross regularly
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Post by HC92 on May 26, 2021 16:09:28 GMT -5
We should play UConn and UMass regularly if the math works that well. But UMass/UConn don't want to play Holy Cross regularly If they’re playing FCS teams, the only reason for HC not to be in the regular rotation is if they’re afraid we’ll beat them. That’s a legit fear for both teams at the moment. I suspect HC brought more fans to East Hartford than most or all FCS teams that have come through there in the last several years which is good for the top line.
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Post by longsuffering on May 26, 2021 17:22:02 GMT -5
But UMass/UConn don't want to play Holy Cross regularly If they’re playing FCS teams, the only reason for HC not to be in the regular rotation is if they’re afraid we’ll beat them. That’s a legit fear for both teams at the moment. I suspect HC brought more fans to East Hartford than most or all FCS teams that have come through there in the last several years which is good for the top line. But it's hard to figure out how it helps the bottom line to pay out almost $20 per attendee based on 2017 attendance. Concessions, swag, programs and parking?
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