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Post by Tom on May 17, 2021 11:46:19 GMT -5
This is just an opinion I am not sure he would have left HC for another WO position unless he was terribly unhappy with the coach, team, or the school. Actually, I believe he is a good 12-13 player on a roster. Tough, competitive, and a decent player to have in practice. Most teams need a player or two like him on the roster. So even if he is a 4th or 5th combo guard with only mop-up time in his future, he seems worthy of a scholarship. The biggest problem he faced in having this role at HC was failing to deliver when he had playing time as a freshman, and the imbalance on the roster, by class and position. We know that he was on scholarship as a freshman. There has been speculation on this board that he it was a one year offer and he was not on scholarship as a soph. If that is the case, that alone might make him unhappy with the coach, team, or school
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Post by efg72 on May 17, 2021 11:55:08 GMT -5
With the portal and players leaving for multiple reasons, few if any coaches can afford to give a 12th or 13th scholarship to a practice player That is what walkons are for Understand the point you are making, but they also can't afford to have a player, who might have been heavily recruited, being buried/ relegated to the 11-13 roles and creating an attitude-- these are contagious and create dysfunction, especially with inexperienced coaches. It can cut both ways but if I was coaching I would take that approach. After all how many teams play beyond an 7-8 person rotation? With injuries you might get to 10 or 11 but that is about as deep as you go.
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Post by possum on May 17, 2021 12:02:25 GMT -5
Don't know if we've ever had someone who agreed to a one year only scholarship guaranty, I'm just happy that he wasn't on a full scholarship as it was a strange move to bring in someone who was still out there in August when it was pretty obvious we were looking at a lost year. Carmody got himself in trouble with those kind of moves.
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Post by alum on May 17, 2021 12:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on May 17, 2021 16:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on May 17, 2021 17:12:30 GMT -5
It's nice to go where you are wanted. Joe also has three years of eligibility left due to the Covid year bonus and Sacred Heart has graduate programs. Wishing him the best. He handled everything the right way during his two years in purple.
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Post by alum on Nov 10, 2021 9:22:04 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Nov 10, 2021 9:55:00 GMT -5
Glad he’s carved out a meaningful role for himself.
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Joey Riley
Nov 10, 2021 13:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by cmo on Nov 10, 2021 13:22:58 GMT -5
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Post by crusader1970 on Nov 10, 2021 13:35:04 GMT -5
I watched about half that game on ESPN+.
Joey is a nice player and I wish the best.
However, I understand why he was not an effective player in Coach Nelson's style of play. He simply does not possess the speed and/or size that Nelson is looking for in his up tempo game.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 10, 2021 14:24:16 GMT -5
So, should I assume that he was a Carmody recruit that Nelson had to take?
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Joey Riley
Nov 10, 2021 14:32:36 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 10, 2021 14:32:36 GMT -5
So, should I assume that he was a Carmody recruit that Nelson had to take? No, and that's what is odd.
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Post by joe on Nov 10, 2021 14:37:14 GMT -5
Always felt he was a good player. Pretty incredible high school stats and now a nice contributor at Sacred Heart. Good for him.
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Joey Riley
Nov 10, 2021 17:49:07 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Nov 10, 2021 17:49:07 GMT -5
Anyone see the game ? How was his D, allegedly his big weakness ?
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Joey Riley
Nov 10, 2021 20:07:59 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by longsuffering on Nov 10, 2021 20:07:59 GMT -5
So, should I assume that he was a Carmody recruit that Nelson had to take? He was committed to a PG year at Phillips Andover or Exeter and Coach Nelson lured him away after Green left and we were thin at point guard.
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Post by crusader1970 on Nov 12, 2021 10:27:12 GMT -5
Watched most of PC's blowout win over Sacred Heart last night on ESPN+.
Joey played 36 minutes, had 11 points on 4-10, 3-6, 4 assists and 3 turnovers. He has skills but was certainly overmatched against a Big East opponent. That said, he held his own even though he was clearly the shortest player on the court.
Holy Cross got several call outs early in the game as they were profiling many of the players.
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Post by classof83 on Nov 12, 2021 10:40:49 GMT -5
Watched most of PC's blowout win over Sacred Heart last night on ESPN+. Joey played 36 minutes, had 11 points on 4-10, 3-6, 4 assists and 3 turnovers. He has skills but was certainly overmatched against a Big East opponent. That said, he held his own even though he was clearly the shortest player on the court. Holy Cross got several call outs early in the game as they were profiling many of the players. I watched some of the game this morning on repeat Sacred Heart has him playing point guard. He got so little playing time at HC so I don't know - but was he considered a point guard or shooting guard at HC?
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Joey Riley
Nov 12, 2021 10:43:40 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by longsuffering on Nov 12, 2021 10:43:40 GMT -5
Watched most of PC's blowout win over Sacred Heart last night on ESPN+. Joey played 36 minutes, had 11 points on 4-10, 3-6, 4 assists and 3 turnovers. He has skills but was certainly overmatched against a Big East opponent. That said, he held his own even though he was clearly the shortest player on the court. Holy Cross got several call outs early in the game as they were profiling many of the players. I watched some of the game this morning on repeat Sacred Heart has him playing point guard. He got so little playing time at HC so I don't know - but was he considered a point guard or shooting guard at HC? He was brought in (to HC) for depth at PG but his HS scoring indicated he could shoot also.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 12, 2021 10:53:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't understand a thread with 3 pages devoted to Joey Riley. Wasn't he merely a fringe player at HC? Obviously, this a board which encourages free discussion. But... I wish him well, period.
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Post by classof83 on Nov 12, 2021 10:59:46 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't understand a thread with 3 pages devoted to Joey Riley. Wasn't he merely a fringe player at HC? Obviously, this a board which encourages free discussion. But... I wish him well, period. For me I am happy to see him be successful. It also is a way to see if we let one get away - a reflection of the current coaching staff - which i think is important to our discussions. .
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Post by hchoops on Nov 12, 2021 11:54:04 GMT -5
He has gotten significantly stronger since he left HC
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Post by cmo on Nov 12, 2021 12:51:43 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't understand a thread with 3 pages devoted to Joey Riley. Wasn't he merely a fringe player at HC? Obviously, this a board which encourages free discussion. But... I wish him well, period. the nice thing about the board is when you see the thread title, you can skip it.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 12, 2021 13:08:31 GMT -5
Re: Joey Riley. If one reads my post, it is obvious there was no criticism of the Posters or Joey Riley. Obviously, free forum discussion which O salute. But, I still do not understand a thread w/ 3pp for Joey Riley. Are there other fringe players who have been given this much space? And, as we used to chant when it was relevant "Beat BC." Peace to all. to all.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 12, 2021 13:31:04 GMT -5
I understand "the obsession" with this former Crusader player because there were so many pages when he came whether he was a walk-on or scholarship player. Did we "waste" one on him or not," etc.? Then, he came and played minimal minutes on the floor creating more discussion. So, he leaves the Cross and some will wonder, especially if he does well, "did we let one get away?" Not quite Kevin Stacom but along those lines. Also, one might question, did Joey jump . . . . or was he pushed?
I'll be surprised if this doesn't go on for at least 2 more pages - more if he does really well at his current venue and our team doesn't improve as much as people expect.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 12, 2021 13:40:10 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't understand a thread with 3 pages devoted to Joey Riley. Wasn't he merely a fringe player at HC? Obviously, this a board which encourages free discussion. But... I wish him well, period. the nice thing about the board is when you see the thread title, you can skip it. Amen-- I have been able to skip all of the country music and all of the automobile racing threads by checking those titles first
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