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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 4, 2021 12:49:34 GMT -5
All students enrolling for the fall semester must be vaccinated before arriving on campus. Exceptions, if approved, only for medical or religious grounds.
HC will work with international students who may have difficulty in securing vaccinations before arriving in the U.S.,
Vaccinations for faculty, staff are strongly encouraged
.No masks, no social distancing.
----- I've seen other universities / colleges indicate that fans will be required to show either proof of vaccination or negative test before admittance.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 4, 2021 12:54:52 GMT -5
should have added, the vaccination requirement applies to the summer sessions. the first of which starts later this month.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2021 12:56:54 GMT -5
I would hope for staff and faculty and vendors to campus services, it is more than strongly encouraged. Particularly with additional variants on the horizon.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 4, 2021 13:26:09 GMT -5
This is an unfortunate decision, but not very surprising.
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Post by gks on May 4, 2021 13:45:19 GMT -5
How can you require it for students yet not faculty and staff?
That makes no sense.
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Post by Tom on May 4, 2021 14:01:44 GMT -5
I suppose students are choosing to use the school's services, like I choose which restaurant to go to. I would think terminating an employee who doesn't want the vaccine is a little more complicated.
Also have to remember that none of the vaccines are fully approved by the FDA. There have been special emergency use authorizations, but I don't think anything has gotten the final approval. It would be hard to fire someone who refuses to take a vaccine that hasn't even been fully approved by the FDA
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Post by alum on May 4, 2021 14:15:52 GMT -5
This is an unfortunate decision, but not very surprising. Feel free to elaborate....
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2021 14:17:38 GMT -5
Today, I was in a Staples Office Store, and I asked the cashier, who appeared to be in her mid to late 20’s, if she had received her vaccinations, she said no, and did not plan to get it. She said “I am strong”. I said no more to her, but walked away shaking my head.
My 35 year old nephew thought the same thing until six weeks ago. He had a temperature between 100 to 104, for two weeks and was on the edge of being hospitalized. Fortunately he has recovered, will be interesting to see if he has long haul issues.
Can’t wait for the T cells to be available.
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Post by hcpride on May 4, 2021 14:48:22 GMT -5
My daughters’ schools have the same new requirement for students. One would imagine the vulnerable staffers who qualify by age have already been vaccinated.
On the bright side it does look like almost all states are moving in the direction that Texas moved two months ago regarding Covid restrictions.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 4, 2021 15:32:33 GMT -5
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Post by coachnelson123 on May 4, 2021 15:41:37 GMT -5
Holy Cross was a vaccination site this past weekend and offered vaccines to students. The vaccines were given in the hockey rink at Hart.
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 4, 2021 15:44:28 GMT -5
All students enrolling for the fall semester must be vaccinated before arriving on campus. Exceptions, if approved, only for medical or religious grounds. HC will work with international students who may have difficulty in securing vaccinations before arriving in the U.S., Vaccinations for faculty, staff are strongly encouraged .No masks, no social distancing. ----- I've seen other universities / colleges indicate that fans will be required to show either proof of vaccination or negative test before admittance. This is an excellent idea, and not surprising. The number of colleges requiring its students to be fully vaccinated is growing every day (Cornell, Rutgers, I think Georgetown, etc.). I think it might be tricky contractually to require faculty to be vaccinated but it's hard to imagine there would be many outliers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 4, 2021 16:10:23 GMT -5
Holy Cross was a vaccination site this past weekend and offered vaccines to students. The vaccines were given in the hockey rink at Hart. Thanks coach. Given that there is a 15 minute wait period after a shot (to check for anaphylaxis), getting in and out in less than 30 minutes would be a pretty efficient operation. (Registering and your vaccine card takes at least five minutes.)
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Post by td128 on May 4, 2021 16:34:44 GMT -5
ICYMI . . . and on the other hand. The point regarding liability has been previously raised. Glad my son is graduating in two weeks.
Physicians, Surgeons Call on Universities to Reverse COVID Vaccine Mandates In an open letter, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons asked universities to reverse mandates “before more students are harmed” and to make the vaccines “rightfully optional.”
By Children's Health Defense Team
childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/physicians-surgeons-universities-reverse-covid-vaccine-mandates/
In an open letter, AAPS listed 15 reasons universities should reconsider vaccine mandates.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS) is calling on U.S. colleges and universities to allow students to attend in-person classes without requiring them to be vaccinated for COVID.
In an open letter, AAPS listed 15 reasons universities should reconsider vaccine mandates.
“Although, at first glance, the policy may seem prudent, it coerces students into bearing unneeded and unknown risk and is at heart contrary to the bedrock medical principle of informed consent,” the letter stated.
According to its website, AAPS is a non-partisan professional association of physicians in all types of practices and specialties across the country. The organization was founded in 1943 to preserve “the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship and the practice of private medicine.”
As The Defender reported last week, more than 100 colleges across the country will require students to get the vaccine for in-person attendance, though most will allow medical and religious exemptions.
Children’s Health Defense provides this letter students can send to universities explaining that under federal law, Emergency Use Authorization vaccines cannot be mandated.
Read the AAPS open letter:
Dear Deans, Governing Boards and Trustees,
On behalf of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, I am writing to ask you to reconsider your new policy mandating COVID-19 vaccination of students prior to returning to campus.
Institutions of higher learning are divided on this issue. Although, at first glance, the policy may seem prudent, it coerces students into bearing unneeded and unknown risk and is at heart contrary to the bedrock medical principle of informed consent.
There are multiple reasons to reverse your policy. I ask you to consider the following:
1. Young adults are a healthy and immunologically competent and vibrant group that is at, “extraordinary low risk for COVID-19 morbidity and mortality.”
2. College and University students, however, are under significant mental health strain already from COVID-19 fears, circumstances, distance learning problems and the imposition of government health policy restrictions.
3. Even though the FDA granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for three COVID-19 vaccines, they are not FDA approved to treat, cure or prevent any disease at this time. Clinical trials will continue for at least two years before the FDA can even consider approval of these vaccines as effective and safe.
4. The COVID-19 vaccines on the market in the U.S., mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer) and DNA (Johnson & Johnson — Janssen), have caused notable side effects, pathology and even death (>2300 deaths per VAERS as of April 20). These adverse reactions result in absence from school and work, hospital visits, and even loss of life.
5. College-age women may be at unique risk for adverse events following administration of the experimental COVID vaccinations currently available. According to the CDC, all cases of life-threatening blood clots, subsequent to receiving the J&J vaccine, reported so far in the United States, occurred in younger women. The vast majority of cases of anaphylaxis have also occurred in women. In addition, “women are reporting having irregular menstrual cycles after getting the coronavirus vaccine,” and 95 miscarriages have been reported to the U.S. Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting System (VAERS) following COVID vaccination as of April 24, 2021.
6. Recent research data demonstrates that the spike protein, present on the SARS-CoV-2 virus and the induced primary mechanism of action of COVID-19 vaccines, are the primary cause of disease, infirmity, hospitalization and death.
7. Students who have had self-limited cases of COVID-19 already possess antibodies, activated B-cells, activated T-cells (detectable by lab testing). This durable, long-term immunity would not only prevent them from getting recurrent COVID-19, but would also represent herd immunity to protect others in the college or university community.
8. COVID-19 convalescent students may be harmed by college and university policy requiring COVID-19 vaccines. They already have extensive immunity and would be likely harmed from a forced confrontation with COVID-19 vaccine induced spike protein causing autoimmune reactions leading to illness and possible death.
9. Students and their families may justifiably believe these policies discriminate against individuals who aren’t candidates for this vaccine, have pre-existing conditions, previous COVID-19 disease, cite religious objections, or are otherwise exercising their freewill choosing not to participate in this optional vaccine experiment. Refer to the Nuremberg code from WWII, which requires individuals, “to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force …”
10. Institutional policies that permit faculty to choose or refuse vaccination, but do not allow students the same options, raise equal protection constitutional issues.
11. The ADA, Americans with Disabilities Act, requires “reasonable accommodations,” be provided based on an individual’s own unique health situation. This includes rejection of an experimental vaccine intervention which may exacerbate known health problems and thereby cause harm.
12. Colleges and Universities should consider whether they might be liable for damages, poor health outcomes, and loss of life due to mandatory COVID-19 vaccination policies.
13. “Positive cases,” as defined by laboratory testing alone, may be false positive testing errors or asymptomatic infection that is not clinically proven to spread disease.
14. Ambulatory outpatient early treatment for SARS-CoV-2 infection / COVID-19 has been demonstrated effective in adults.
15. Informed consent is the standard for all medical interventions. The FDA factsheet for the healthcare provider reads, “The recipient or their caregiver has the option to accept or refuse (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine.”
Please reverse your decision to mandate experimental COVID-19 vaccines before more students are harmed and make the vaccines rightfully optional. Both unvaccinated and vaccinated students should be permitted on campus. Thank you for your time and attention. We would appreciate hearing back from you as soon as possible and welcome further discussion with you and other leaders at your institution.
Sincerely,
Paul M. Kempen, M.D., Ph.D. – AAPS President (2021)
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 4, 2021 17:01:37 GMT -5
Check out Wikipedia, the New York Times, and other outlets for some of the nutty ideas of AAPS. They are, to be kind, a fringe group.
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Post by td128 on May 4, 2021 17:08:40 GMT -5
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons – AAPS – is a non-partisan professional association of physicians in all types of practices and specialties across the country. Since 1943, AAPS has been dedicated to the highest ethical standards of the Oath of Hippocrates and to preserving the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship and the practice of private medicine.
Our motto, “omnia pro aegroto” means “all for the patient.”
Mailing Address: AAPS | 1601 N. Tucson Blvd. #9 | Tucson, AZ 85716
Phone: 1-800-635-1196 Fax: 1-520-325-4230 or 1-520-326-3529
Email: aaps@aapsonline.org
Media Contact: Jane Orient, MD | (520) 323-3110 | jorient@mindspring.com
aapsonline.org/about-aaps/
To serve the state? Or to serve our patients? That is the question we will increasingly face as government forces its power into every nook and cranny of our professional lives. I once belonged to all the standard societies—my specialty society, my state and local medical society and—dare I admit this—even the AMA. But I discovered that none of these societies stood on the principles I hold dear—individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and the ability to freely practice medicine according to time honored Hippocratic principles.
AAPS Fights to Preserve Medical Freedom! The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, AAPS, has been fighting the good fight to preserve the practice of private medicine since 1943. When the Clinton health plan was proposed, we fought for open meetings. And when the details came to light, the plan was halted. In the current battle over health care “reform,” the AAPS helped organize numerous physician rallys and has a pending lawsuit suit in the DC Federal District Court challenging the constitutionality of the ObamaCare insurance mandate.
AAPS Stands up for Physicians! The AAPS legal team defends doctors who have been mugged by Medicare, or railroaded by hospitals using sham peer review. We sued the Texas Medical Board in defense of physicians’ due process rights; this suit is now on appeal. We drafted legislation for reform of the Texas medical practice act and are fighting for its enactment.
AAPS Helps Physicians Reduce and Eliminate Third Party Interference! The AAPS seminar, “Thrive Don’t Just Survive,” has reached doctors all over the country who wish to leave the hassles of Medicare and the interference of managed care and start a cash practice. We have helped hundreds of doctors opt out of Medicare through information on our website and our limited legal consultation service. We challenged the HIPAA “Privacy Rule,” and got the government to acknowledge the “country doctor exemption” for physicians who do not file claims electronically. AAPS Keeps You Informed!
Our monthly newsletter, AAPS News is packed with political, legal, and practical information that physicians cannot afford to miss. Our Journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons publishes the controversial issues—often with both sides in a point counterpoint–that you won’t find in most mainstream medical publications. AAPS email alerts and our website (www.aapsonline.org) will get you the late breaking news as it happens and provide you with urgent political action items to help in the fight to restore medical freedom.
Individually, our members have appeared on Fox News, in the Wall Street Journal, in HumanEvents.com and other blog sites, contributing time, talent, and facts to counter the emotional arguments for socialized medicine.
AAPS speaks for Physicians NOT Corporate or Government Interests! AAPS is completely funded by membership dues and contributions, so we answer to and advocate for our physician members and not big corporate donors or government funding sources. The AMA’s deal with HCFA gave it a monopoly on the CPT codes, from which it derives at least $70 million in revenue annually. AAPS was one of the first to expose this conflict of interest.
All elected AAPS Board members and officers serve on a volunteer basis and even pay their own way to board meetings. We do not have a big building, or a bloated staff. Every dime in dues goes directly to the fight for freedom in medicine.
Join Your Colleagues to Keep Patient-Centered Medicine Alive! For almost 75 years, we have consistently stood for ethical patient-centered medicine—the kind only possible in a free market medical system.
So, if you are like me, and you are tired of contributing to organizations which claim to be your advocate, but do little more than lobby for short term payment increases, support politicians who cannot be trusted, and feed their own self preserving coffers by selling you CPT coding manuals, come join us at the AAPS.
AAPS Code of Medical Practice and Bylaws: www.aapsonline.org/AAPS_ByLaws.htm
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Post by hcpride on May 4, 2021 17:16:10 GMT -5
If the fully vaccinated President and his senior associates would stop the theatrical outdoor masking it would doubtlessly reinforce his message that the vaccine is safe and effective. Understand it is gesture over science but perhaps someone can tell him it is backfiring and feeding vaccine hesitancy.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2021 17:36:56 GMT -5
How so?
My understanding is the current vaccine prevents you from getting seriously ill and/or possible hospitalization. The current vaccines do not kill the virus, or completely stop the low possibility of an infection. Do you want government officials, who interact with a number of people in carrying out their duties, to risk that possibility?
Having spent a large part of my professional career in risk management, I remain a belt and suspenders guy, until the T Cell vaccines are available. Even with a complete cycle of vaccination, I still double N95 masks and face shields when in a possible high traffic area.
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Post by hcpride on May 4, 2021 18:07:25 GMT -5
How so? My understanding is the current vaccine prevents you from getting seriously ill and/or possible hospitalization. The current vaccines do not kill the virus, or completely stop the low possibility of an infection. Do you want government officials, who interact with a number of people in carrying out their duties, to risk that possibility? Having spent a large part of my professional career in risk management, I remain a belt and suspenders guy, until the T Cell vaccines are available. Double N95 masks and face shields in a possible high traffic area. Gloves in the grocery store?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 4, 2021 18:23:44 GMT -5
As of today, 56.4 percent (146 million) of the total U. S. population ages 18 and above has received at least one dose. 69.8 percent of the population 65 and over are fully vaccinated. A one dose vaccination of Moderna or Pfizer vaccine has about the same efficacy as J&J's one shot vaccine.
As of yesterday, 81.7 percent of the population ages 75 and above had received at least one shot. 84.2 percent of the population, ages 65-74 63.4 percent of the population ages 50-64 51.5 percent of the population ages 40-49 44.5 percent of the population ages 30-39 35.4 percent of the population ages 18-29 3.0 percent of the population ages 17 and under.
Biden's new goal is 70 percent of the population to have received at least one shot by July 4, two months away. I don't think the U.S. population denominator includes under 16s, who presently are not eligible.
In Massachusetts, 3.875 million people have received at least one dose.
Twelve states, including all six New England states, have vaccinated 50 percent or more of their population, ages 18 and above. An additional 13 states have vaccinated between 45 and 49 percent of their population. Fifteen states have vaccinated between 31 and 39 percent of their population. NH's vaccination rate of 61 percent is about double that of Mississippi's, 31 percent.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2021 18:28:34 GMT -5
You betcha! ... grocery stores, and also especially at the gas pumps.
I also carry hand sanitizer and a spray bottle of alcohol.
My son has several health factors including congestive heart failure and has not received his second vaccine yet. It is necessary to exercise risk mitigation to ensure we eliminate as much as possible. My nephew, at 35 thought he could waltz through and be unaffected. He got it, and had temperature of from 100 to 104 for two weeks.
I fully understand why public officials will continue to wear a mask in public. They may have a family member who is at risk.
Paraphrasing Walter Cronkite.....”And that’s the way it is....until T Cell vaccines are available for distribution to act as a therapeutic remedy”.
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Post by higheredguy on May 4, 2021 18:41:07 GMT -5
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons – AAPS – is a non-partisan professional association of physicians in all types of practices and specialties across the country. Since 1943, AAPS has been dedicated to the highest ethical standards of the Oath of Hippocrates and to preserving the sanctity of the patient-physician relationship and the practice of private medicine.
Our motto, “omnia pro aegroto” means “all for the patient.”
Mailing Address: AAPS | 1601 N. Tucson Blvd. #9 | Tucson, AZ 85716
Phone: 1-800-635-1196 Fax: 1-520-325-4230 or 1-520-326-3529
Email: aaps@aapsonline.org
Media Contact: Jane Orient, MD | (520) 323-3110 | jorient@mindspring.com
aapsonline.org/about-aaps/
To serve the state? Or to serve our patients? That is the question we will increasingly face as government forces its power into every nook and cranny of our professional lives. I once belonged to all the standard societies—my specialty society, my state and local medical society and—dare I admit this—even the AMA. But I discovered that none of these societies stood on the principles I hold dear—individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, and the ability to freely practice medicine according to time honored Hippocratic principles.
AAPS Fights to Preserve Medical Freedom! The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, AAPS, has been fighting the good fight to preserve the practice of private medicine since 1943. When the Clinton health plan was proposed, we fought for open meetings. And when the details came to light, the plan was halted. In the current battle over health care “reform,” the AAPS helped organize numerous physician rallys and has a pending lawsuit suit in the DC Federal District Court challenging the constitutionality of the ObamaCare insurance mandate.
AAPS Stands up for Physicians! The AAPS legal team defends doctors who have been mugged by Medicare, or railroaded by hospitals using sham peer review. We sued the Texas Medical Board in defense of physicians’ due process rights; this suit is now on appeal. We drafted legislation for reform of the Texas medical practice act and are fighting for its enactment.
AAPS Helps Physicians Reduce and Eliminate Third Party Interference! The AAPS seminar, “Thrive Don’t Just Survive,” has reached doctors all over the country who wish to leave the hassles of Medicare and the interference of managed care and start a cash practice. We have helped hundreds of doctors opt out of Medicare through information on our website and our limited legal consultation service. We challenged the HIPAA “Privacy Rule,” and got the government to acknowledge the “country doctor exemption” for physicians who do not file claims electronically. AAPS Keeps You Informed!
Our monthly newsletter, AAPS News is packed with political, legal, and practical information that physicians cannot afford to miss. Our Journal of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons publishes the controversial issues—often with both sides in a point counterpoint–that you won’t find in most mainstream medical publications. AAPS email alerts and our website (www.aapsonline.org) will get you the late breaking news as it happens and provide you with urgent political action items to help in the fight to restore medical freedom.
Individually, our members have appeared on Fox News, in the Wall Street Journal, in HumanEvents.com and other blog sites, contributing time, talent, and facts to counter the emotional arguments for socialized medicine.
AAPS speaks for Physicians NOT Corporate or Government Interests! AAPS is completely funded by membership dues and contributions, so we answer to and advocate for our physician members and not big corporate donors or government funding sources. The AMA’s deal with HCFA gave it a monopoly on the CPT codes, from which it derives at least $70 million in revenue annually. AAPS was one of the first to expose this conflict of interest.
All elected AAPS Board members and officers serve on a volunteer basis and even pay their own way to board meetings. We do not have a big building, or a bloated staff. Every dime in dues goes directly to the fight for freedom in medicine.
Join Your Colleagues to Keep Patient-Centered Medicine Alive! For almost 75 years, we have consistently stood for ethical patient-centered medicine—the kind only possible in a free market medical system.
So, if you are like me, and you are tired of contributing to organizations which claim to be your advocate, but do little more than lobby for short term payment increases, support politicians who cannot be trusted, and feed their own self preserving coffers by selling you CPT coding manuals, come join us at the AAPS.
AAPS Code of Medical Practice and Bylaws: www.aapsonline.org/AAPS_ByLaws.htm The AAPS is not the type of group one should be using when discussing public health issues.... For pleasure reading: www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/aaps-make-health-care-great-again/607015/
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Post by hcpride on May 4, 2021 18:42:20 GMT -5
You betcha! ... grocery stores, and also especially at the gas pumps. I also carry hand sanitizer and a spray bottle of alcohol. My son has several health factors including congestive heart failure and has not received his second vaccine yet. It is necessary to exercise risk mitigation to ensure we eliminate as much as possible. My nephew, at 35 thought he could waltz through and be unaffected. He got it, and had temperature of rom 100 to 104 for two weeks. I fully understand why public officials will continue to wear a mask in public. They may have a family member who is at risk. Paraphrasing Walter Cronkite.....”And that’s the way it is....until T Cell vaccines are available for distribution to act as a therapeutic remedy”. Do you think it is risky for the fully vaccinated president to merely double mask in the fresh air or would rather see him add a face shield and/or gloves since he interacts with a number of people in carrying out his duties? Until the T Cell vaccines show up?
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 4, 2021 19:22:22 GMT -5
“Based on evidence from clinical trials, the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was 95% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 illness in people without evidence of previous infection.”
There is still a 5% probability. As a risk manager, that number is still high regarding a life or death situation. To succeed, in any endeavor, redundancy is necessary. Public officials, particularly those in a high risk category (elderly, morbid factors, etc) who are required having daily interactions with many people, continue wearing of PPE, i.e, masks, using hand sanitizer, not shaking hands, etc., probably is a wise decision to possibly avoid or mitigate any airborne virus.
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 4, 2021 19:48:19 GMT -5
I spoke with a nurse in CT last week who said that some hospitals are seeing a surprising number of "break out" cases, vaccinated people testing positive for Covid. These are not just people testing positive but who are sick enough to be hospitalized, some of them relatively young (she mentioned one 40 year old). It's disconcerting when people get so shrill about vaccinated people still following precautions.
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