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Post by hcpride on Sept 16, 2021 18:31:27 GMT -5
I don’t think he was serious. Actually I was serious, but I forgot HC students are all vaccinated because I have recently watched so many news reports of overcrowding at hospitals and lines to get hooked up to monoclonal antibodies drips among the unvaccinated in the South who test positive, I didn't consider what a huge difference the vax makes. Sorry about that. You forgot HC had a vaccination requirement? See thread title.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 16, 2021 18:35:02 GMT -5
Actually I was serious, but I forgot HC students are all vaccinated because I have recently watched so many news reports of overcrowding at hospitals and lines to get hooked up to monoclonal antibodies drips among the unvaccinated in the South who test positive, I didn't consider what a huge difference the vax makes. Sorry about that. You forgot HC had a vaccination requirement? See thread title. Welcome to my world. I get things half right twice as often these days.😊
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 17, 2021 5:52:26 GMT -5
My understanding is that there is a 24-36 hour window when a vaccinated person, having become infected, is contagious or highly contagious. A vaccinated person becomes infected on Day 1, the number of virus particles grow exponentially days 2-3, the immune system kicks in by day 3- 4, virus presence in the body is greatly reduced by day 5. Days 3-4 after infection are the highly contagious window.
HC is now testing every student twice a week.
At move-in and start of classes, the testing frequency was once a week. However, on Sept 4, there were 480 tests and 17 student positives. This was 3-4 days after start of the semester parties. Alarm bells went off. September 6-7, there were over 2950 tests, with 25 positives. September 9-10, over 3100 tests with 7 positives.
Broad was charging about $30 a test. HC has contracted with a separate company to administer the HC test site and transport the tests to Broad, and collect new test kits from Broad. I do not know this company's cost of this per test. HC students self-administer the test, so that significantly reduces the administrative cost.
HC did about 8,000 tests Sept 6-11, so this is not an inexpensive undertaking.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 17, 2021 9:30:09 GMT -5
My understanding is that there is a 24-36 hour window when a vaccinated person, having become infected, is contagious or highly contagious. A vaccinated person becomes infected on Day 1, the number of virus particles grow exponentially days 2-3, the immune system kicks in by day 3- 4, virus presence in the body is greatly reduced by day 5. Days 3-4 after infection are the highly contagious window. HC is now testing every student twice a week. At move-in and start of classes, the testing frequency was once a week. However, on Sept 4, there were 480 tests and 17 student positives. This was 3-4 days after start of the semester parties. Alarm bells went off. September 6-7, there were over 2950 tests, with 25 positives. September 9-10, over 3100 tests with 7 positives. Broad was charging about $30 a test. HC has contracted with a separate company to administer the HC test site and transport the tests to Broad, and collect new test kits from Broad. I do not know this company's cost of this per test. HC students self-administer the test, so that significantly reduces the administrative cost. HC did about 8,000 tests Sept 6-11, so this is not an inexpensive undertaking. I know Umass-Memorial across town was using their own medical staff and just shipping them to Broad for testing. I would be surprised if Broad was administering tests anywhere as anyone can easily do the testing themselves.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 17, 2021 11:29:12 GMT -5
Just got an email from Brown University athletics.
Among other things it said masks are required at all times for indoor and outdoor events.
Nothing about proof of vaccination though.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 17, 2021 12:12:06 GMT -5
Just got an email from Brown University athletics. Among other things it said masks are required at all times for indoor and outdoor events. Nothing about proof of vaccination though. I just posted that in another thread
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 17, 2021 13:37:19 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 17, 2021 15:42:32 GMT -5
My understanding is that there is a 24-36 hour window when a vaccinated person, having become infected, is contagious or highly contagious. A vaccinated person becomes infected on Day 1, the number of virus particles grow exponentially days 2-3, the immune system kicks in by day 3- 4, virus presence in the body is greatly reduced by day 5. Days 3-4 after infection are the highly contagious window. HC is now testing every student twice a week. At move-in and start of classes, the testing frequency was once a week. However, on Sept 4, there were 480 tests and 17 student positives. This was 3-4 days after start of the semester parties. Alarm bells went off. September 6-7, there were over 2950 tests, with 25 positives. September 9-10, over 3100 tests with 7 positives. Broad was charging about $30 a test. HC has contracted with a separate company to administer the HC test site and transport the tests to Broad, and collect new test kits from Broad. I do not know this company's cost of this per test. HC students self-administer the test, so that significantly reduces the administrative cost. HC did about 8,000 tests Sept 6-11, so this is not an inexpensive undertaking. The football game was the 11th. If there is no big bump in positives from this week's tests that will be good news for football fans as the students seemed tightly packed outdoors sans masks for three hours or so...if they stayed for the full debacle.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 17, 2021 15:59:16 GMT -5
Having sat very near the students, I was surprised at how many showed up and most stayed longer than I would have guessed based on past experience.
I actually took some pics of the large student crowd but too lazy to download them. I am not sure I would say they were packed together but there was a lot of close interactions among many of them.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 17, 2021 16:03:40 GMT -5
It was "close interactions" with another student that made up some of my best times and best memories of my undergraduate years at Holy Cross.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 17, 2021 16:16:21 GMT -5
Would be kinda cool to force the student section to mask up at football games. The vaccinated protected from the vaccinated so to speak. And outdoors to boot! Not science, but kinda cool. And what a gesture!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 17, 2021 16:27:06 GMT -5
My understanding is that there is a 24-36 hour window when a vaccinated person, having become infected, is contagious or highly contagious. A vaccinated person becomes infected on Day 1, the number of virus particles grow exponentially days 2-3, the immune system kicks in by day 3- 4, virus presence in the body is greatly reduced by day 5. Days 3-4 after infection are the highly contagious window. HC is now testing every student twice a week. At move-in and start of classes, the testing frequency was once a week. However, on Sept 4, there were 480 tests and 17 student positives. This was 3-4 days after start of the semester parties. Alarm bells went off. September 6-7, there were over 2950 tests, with 25 positives. September 9-10, over 3100 tests with 7 positives. Broad was charging about $30 a test. HC has contracted with a separate company to administer the HC test site and transport the tests to Broad, and collect new test kits from Broad. I do not know this company's cost of this per test. HC students self-administer the test, so that significantly reduces the administrative cost. HC did about 8,000 tests Sept 6-11, so this is not an inexpensive undertaking. The football game was the 11th. If there is no big bump in positives from this week's tests that will be good news for football fans as the students seemed tightly packed outdoors sans masks for three hours or so...if they stayed for the full debacle. 6256 tests Monday-Friday (Friday's numbers may be updated tomorrow). 14 student positives. That's a positive test rate of 0.22%. (There were two non-student positives this week.) At least one football player has apparently tested positive, according to the Yale game thread.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 17, 2021 20:39:43 GMT -5
Would be kinda cool to force the student section to mask up at football games. The vaccinated protected from the vaccinated so to speak. And outdoors to boot! Not science, but kinda cool. And what a gesture! A gesture by who? The people forcing the kids to put masks on?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 17, 2021 20:51:56 GMT -5
Would be kinda cool to force the student section to mask up at football games. The vaccinated protected from the vaccinated so to speak. And outdoors to boot! Not science, but kinda cool. And what a gesture! A gesture by who? The people forcing the kids to put masks on? Phreek's test results confirm the student section at Fitton was not a super spreader event. The spike after the parties indicate indoor transmission between vaccinated students is still a concern. HC appears to have it right with indoor mask requirements and freedom of choice outdoors.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 18, 2021 10:09:08 GMT -5
A gesture by who? The people forcing the kids to put masks on? Phreek's test results confirm the student section at Fitton was not a super spreader event. The spike after the parties indicate indoor transmission between vaccinated students is still a concern. HC appears to have it right with indoor mask requirements and freedom of choice outdoors. I’m not sure if the idea of protecting the vaccinated from the vaccinated by masking up the (outdoor) HC student section would pass the giggle test for rational folks. But, we’re talking Covid so, you know… Plus the opportunity for a giant (empty) virtue signal might be too delicious to pass up.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 18, 2021 10:55:45 GMT -5
Public Service: CDC with the support of their rational scientific community has strongly recommended all people wear masks in indoor settings - vaccinated & unvaccinated. Obviously, there are some in our nation who believe they know more than the consensus of the scientific community & physicians in clinical practice. However the virus is rampaging among the unvaccinated and there continues to be an increase in breakthrough infections among the vaccinated. Even though the risk of symptomatic infections among the vaccinated is quite small there are an increasing number of the vaccinated getting sick. Why take the risk? Risk Management seems to be the wisest course of action. To wit, it makes eminent sense to take whatever steps necessary to bring one's risk of infection as close to zero as possible.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 30, 2021 15:10:52 GMT -5
In reading up on Bowdoin's soaring endowment, I noticed that their COVID dashboard shows Green. Bowdoin has no active cases of COVID. First I've come across a college dashboard with Green as the status condition.
Holy Cross' dashboard's color is Yellow, reflecting 14 active cases, 12 students and two staff.
It's unclear how much testing Bowdoin does. HC has done 5,500 tests Mon-Thurs of this week, with one student positive.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 30, 2021 16:00:13 GMT -5
In reading up on Bowdoin's soaring endowment, I noticed that their COVID dashboard shows Green. Bowdoin has no active cases of COVID. First I've come across a college dashboard with Green as the status condition. Holy Cross' dashboard's color is Yellow, reflecting 14 active cases, 12 students and two staff. It's unclear how much testing Bowdoin does. HC has done 5,500 tests Mon-Thurs of this week, with one student positive. I wonder if they are attending classes unmasked during Green status or if they are still protecting the vaccinated from the vaccinated. Edit: Just found their indoor rules during Green Status Face coverings required except:
While actively eating and drinking
Students in their own residence halls
Faculty/staff in private offices
Students relaxing or studying alone in Smith Union when the density is low-to-moderate and when a distance of at least six feet can be maintained—if the density is high and a distance of six feet can not be maintained or students are engaging with staff directly for services, face coverings must be worn
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 30, 2021 17:14:23 GMT -5
^^^ Bowdoin has not tested students for the past seven days, and probably longer. I cannot find information on positive tests in the past x days in Brunswick ME, where Bowdoin is located. Bowdoin seems to have tested vigorously in late August, early September, and has since stopped. Auburn MA positive test rate, 14 days ending 9/25 is 2.37 percent. Worcester's is a percentage point lower, but that is skewed by the great number of tests being done by HC, WPI, and several others. WPI did 10,742 tests over the past seven days, with one student positive. There were over 64,000 tests done in Worcester over the past 14 days. Nearly 90,000 in Cambridge. 26,000 tests in Springfield. Test numbers for some MA cities and towns are affected by testing of elementary-high school students, e.g., www.salemk12.org/families/c_o_v_i_d-19_testing_informationIts probably a wise policy to continue wearing masks, given the absence of testing.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 30, 2021 18:27:17 GMT -5
A mask must be worn while eating and drinking but may be removed when “actively” eating and drinking.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 30, 2021 21:34:39 GMT -5
A mask must be worn while eating and drinking but may be removed when “actively” eating and drinking. Slowly savor your food, the aroma, the texture, the entire presentation. Then remove your mask once and wolf it all down.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 1, 2021 5:19:22 GMT -5
A mask must be worn while eating and drinking but may be removed when “actively” eating and drinking. Slowly savor your food, the aroma, the texture, the entire presentation. Then remove your mask once and wolf it all down. Wonder the odds of choking on adult food v dying of covid for the 100% vaccinated kids attending Bowdoin. Current “Green” Covid phase or otherwise. I’m not suggesting a move to puréed baby food.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 4, 2021 10:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Oct 4, 2021 16:14:23 GMT -5
How did Camp Granada fare?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 4, 2021 18:06:46 GMT -5
Ask "Mudda and Fadda." They might read you some of their son's letters. I hear that camp is "very entertaining."
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