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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 5, 2022 19:51:01 GMT -5
Any chance that he had a partial at HC and is getting the full ride at Tarleton?
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Post by efg72 on Feb 5, 2022 19:54:15 GMT -5
Today all things are possible ane even likely
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 5, 2022 20:24:13 GMT -5
Looking at Tarleton State's signing day list, seven 'signees', six of whom were transfers including Siderman. Other transfers from Washington State (2), Monmouth, Incarnate Word.
The starting Tarleton QB in 2021 was a transfer from W. Kentucky. He threw for over 2500 yards in 2021.. If he plays this fall, will this be his season #7? Played for Western Kentucky in 2016 (red shirt), 2017, 2018. and 2019. Played for Tarleton in 2020 and 2021.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 5, 2022 21:10:10 GMT -5
Regarding Siderman (and football back-ups in general) there can be advantages to both sides when a player transfers. He does have 3 years left to spend at Tarleton competing for the starting job. He may have seen that avenue essentially closed at HC (where he may have had just two years remaining in any case). We did bring in a strong recruit (Forcucci) and have a (reportedly) capable sophomore thrower (Pesansky) on the roster in any case. PP - Apparently there are quite a few 7-year participants but most seem to involve medical issues on top of a regular redshirt year and the Covid year: www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2021/11/25/super-7-more-than-super-seniors-some-players-in-7th-season/49435717/
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Post by HC92 on Apr 8, 2022 19:20:22 GMT -5
Matt Considine is in the transfer portal looking for his 4th college. He played in 5 games for Saginaw Valley State, completing 77 passes on 158 attempts for 986 yards and five touchdowns.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 8, 2022 19:50:24 GMT -5
Are you eligible to play your Covid year at a college if you are a member of the faculty?
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Post by HC92 on Apr 27, 2022 11:27:40 GMT -5
With DL being the position group where we’ve lost the most talent from last year, I wonder if there’s room at the inn for this guy who had tons of high FCS (e.g. JMU and Richmond), low FBS (e.g. Army and Air Force) and PL (Fordham and Georgetown) offers out of high school
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 27, 2022 11:34:25 GMT -5
The poor souls that work in the various admissions departments across the country might want to transfer into a new profession at this point.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 27, 2022 21:13:59 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on May 9, 2022 17:35:37 GMT -5
Almost worthy of a separate thread but it is about BC
Home / Boston College / Boston College: Reports of Zay Flowers turning down massive NIL deals to transfer further cement what we already knew about Coach Hafley & his staff
Boston College: Reports of Zay Flowers turning down massive NIL deals to transfer further cement what we already knew about Coach Hafley & his staff
Posted By Kevin Stone on May 6, 2022
Photo: Brian Fluharty – USA Today
Well, that was quite a whopper for a Thursday night.
Right around dinner time, ESPN’s Pete Thamel dropped a story about Zay Flowers turning down six-figure NIL deals to enter the transfer portal and leave Boston College. Thamel reported that there were $600,000 and $300,000 deals on the table had Flowers chosen to leave.
As one of 14 children with a single parent, no one would have shamed Flowers for taking the life-altering money. But, in the story, Flowers talked about having conversations with both his dad Willie and Coach Hafley regarding the situation. In the end, Flowers remained loyal to his head coach, quarterback, new offensive coordinator John McNulty, the rest of his teammates and a fan base dying to get back into the national picture.
In a time where kids can go anywhere that pays them the most, Flowers’ decision speaks volumes about a few different things.
First, it speaks to Flowers’ loyalty and the fantastic job his father has done raising him. That money could have legitimately changed his family’s life in a matter of moments. Instead, Zay’s father encouraged him to keep his word and commitment to Coach Hafley and the Eagles so his son could ultimately have a phenomenal education. The fact that Flowers even approached Hafley after the offers were made is important. There’s a huge group of players that would have kept it away from their coach until the decision was made and nothing could be done or said to persuade them back. Flowers immediately went to Hafley like a grown man and that’s more than admirable.
It also speaks to what Coach Hafley and the staff has done in such a short amount of time as far as building relationships and trust with players. How many people in your life can you honestly say you’d pass up on $600,000 for? Probably not many. Flowers believes in the “For The Team” mantra and everything Hafley has preached enough to pass up on it and see this final season through until the end. I guarantee you the same would not have been done for Steve Adazzio.
This is also a huge win for the recruiting process at BC. Imagine being a 15, 16 or 17-year old kid and you see a future NFL star wide receiver turn down over half-a-million dollars to stay in Chestnut Hill. You can’t buy that type of publicity and good will for the program…literally. Flowers’ decision to continue playing for the Eagles before heading off to the next level is only going to encourage kids in a similar situation to trust this staff to put their best interests in mind.
The story blew up all over social media on Thursday night and rightfully so. The Jurkovec-Flowers combination very well could go down as the best in BC history if this year goes the way fans hope it will. The decision from Flowers was an enormous victory for everyone involved with the program and further cements Hafley’s sterling reputation amongst players he’s coached past and present.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 9, 2022 17:43:41 GMT -5
Was he in the portal? If not how did he get the offers?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 9, 2022 19:10:43 GMT -5
Was he in the portal? If not how did he get the offers? He did not enter the portal. The offers were not made to him directly. Its unclear who (intermediaries) the offers were made to.
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Post by longsuffering on May 9, 2022 21:39:23 GMT -5
Why can't he get NIL money from Fidelity, Putnam, MFS, Gillette, GE, John Hancock or other companies headquartered in Boston?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 11, 2022 7:40:17 GMT -5
Why can't he get NIL money from Fidelity, Putnam, MFS, Gillette, GE, John Hancock or other companies headquartered in Boston? There is $0 value to these companies. In fact, there is a negative value.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 11, 2022 8:15:50 GMT -5
I’m thinking that maybe 5% of the NIL money will go to using an athlete’s name, image, or likeness (the original basis for beginning NIL) to build a brand and 95% will just be boosters paying players to sign on or stay at their school?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 8:23:50 GMT -5
I’m thinking that maybe 5% of the NIL money will go to using an athlete’s name, image, or likeness (the original basis for beginning NIL) to build a brand and 95% will just be boosters paying players to sign on or stay at their school? Thats exactly it.
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 8:37:16 GMT -5
I’m thinking that maybe 5% of the NIL money will go to using an athlete’s name, image, or likeness (the original basis for beginning NIL) to build a brand and 95% will just be boosters paying players to sign on or stay at their school? In general, yes. But if this was 1984 (the year, not the book) wouldn't Dunkin Donuts consider Doug Flutie along with Larry Bird, Jim Rice, John Hannah and Terry O'Reilly as endorsers in New England? I'd rank him second behind Larry in regional mass appeal that year among those five.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 8:53:30 GMT -5
I’m thinking that maybe 5% of the NIL money will go to using an athlete’s name, image, or likeness (the original basis for beginning NIL) to build a brand and 95% will just be boosters paying players to sign on or stay at their school? In general, yes. But if this was 1984 (the year, not the book) wouldn't Dunkin Donuts consider Doug Flutie along with Larry Bird, Jim Rice, John Hannah and Terry O'Reilly as endorsers in New England? I'd rank him second behind Larry in regional mass appeal that year among those five. Yes but the amount of $$ that legitimate companies would invest in these college athletes is dwarfed by the amount of $$ that boosters at the really big schools are able to generate and siphon off to the ferkakta "corporations" handing out the NIL deals in today's climate.
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Post by longsuffering on May 11, 2022 8:59:43 GMT -5
How much fun is it to fork over tens of thousands to some booster corporation? The appeal escapes me but I understand SEC FB and ACC BB can generate religious fervor in some regions.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 11, 2022 10:39:45 GMT -5
To me the essence of the new reality is that I believe some booster group for U Texas is going to pay offensive linemen $50,000 per year, ostensibly to support some charity. I’m not arguing that o linemen are not valuable to the team (it’s quite the contrary) it’s just the idea of establishing a base pay fir anyone playing the position. Forget the Longhorns having to reach out, every elite (and some not so elite ) HS lineman in the US will be contacting the school.
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Post by hchoops on May 11, 2022 10:53:37 GMT -5
CESSPOOL
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Post by sader1970 on May 11, 2022 11:16:05 GMT -5
No, no, no. Here's where Cesspool and athletics come in, many years before now: 1959-1961 having the embarrassing experience of playing in the Bay Shore Little League major league on a team that was sponsored by "C.H. Dennis Cesspool Company" at ages 10-12. Fortunately, the uniforms just said "C H Dennis" but on Long Island, everyone knew who our sponsor was.
Just checked. They are still around but like Entenmann's bakery, moved out of Bay Shore - now in Nesconset.
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Post by mm67 on May 11, 2022 11:21:12 GMT -5
The money payoffs are out from under the table. This new era of "transparency" has provided a golden opportunity for some star athletes to reap greater, vast sums of money. What will happen to one & done? Media pimping might be more interesting. It is a cesspool made all the more outrageous by its legality. What will be the impact on HC & other FCS schools? TBT, if I had the good fortune to be a star, big-time athlete, I would take the big bucks. "Cabaret," Joel Grey & Liza Minelli sing"Money Makes The World Go 'Round." And, so it goes.
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Post by cross99 on May 11, 2022 12:14:23 GMT -5
No, no, no. Here's where Cesspool and athletics come in, many years before now: 1959-1961 having the embarrassing experience of playing in the Bay Shore Little League major league on a team that was sponsored by "C.H. Dennis Cesspool Company" at ages 10-12. Fortunately, the uniforms just said "C H Dennis" but on Long Island, everyone knew who our sponsor was. Just checked. They are still around but like Entenmann's bakery, moved out of Bay Shore - now in Nesconset. This is the absolute, greatest piece of information I have ever heard - I'm not even joking. Thank you for bringing a smile to my face today.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 11, 2022 12:21:37 GMT -5
How much fun is it to fork over tens of thousands to some booster corporation? The appeal escapes me but I understand SEC FB and ACC BB can generate religious fervor in some regions. I guess ask the boosters themselves who are the ones forking over the cash.
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