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Post by efg72 on Dec 4, 2021 13:19:09 GMT -5
The loss of Dobbs last night demonstrated how valuable he is to this team, which we already knew, and the importance of having quality depth at LB is to our defense, and perhaps to any team. Hope we are able to reload with a couple of talented recruits in the next 11 days.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 4, 2021 13:26:53 GMT -5
It could also be that he sees that HC does not often throw to its tight ends Bingo. We recruit all these TEs and never throw to them. Certainly even Gronk would have wasted his college career here as a TE. Crossports posters have been saying for years to throw to the TEs but falls on deaf ears. Justin Roper (or was that Roger, according to the announcers, 😊) must have read Crossports before the game. Last night, junior tight end Sean Morris hauled in a seven-yard touchdown reception.
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Post by cruskater31 on Dec 4, 2021 18:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 4, 2021 18:54:07 GMT -5
It’s accurate
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Post by efg72 on Dec 4, 2021 19:10:44 GMT -5
Next 11 days are important to fill a couple of key positions, learn about potential transfers in and out, and get updates on a few injured players
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Post by HC92 on Dec 5, 2021 0:26:42 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Dec 5, 2021 11:33:24 GMT -5
5 positions ?? Never saw that before Gordie had 3/4
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 6, 2021 12:37:09 GMT -5
Given the pace with which college football coaches are moving on to new schools, and the uncertainty that it creates in the recruiting cycle, it would not surprise me if the early signing period becomes less and less relevant as recruits seek to extend their decision-making process in an attempt to avoid committing somewhere only to have the head coach bolt to another school. This issue, coupled with the prevalence of the transfer portal, is really creating a mercenary atmosphere.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 6, 2021 13:02:03 GMT -5
Has there been more turnover of late among head coaches in D-1?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 6, 2021 14:52:08 GMT -5
I think the kids who are recruited heavily will always have the luxury of waiting. Those with a handful of FCS/FBS offers will never have that luxury because once another kid signs they move on from the kids who they were recruiting. They all get to a point where they say to a kid - we need a decision now or we are moving on to our next kid. And once scholarship money is gone, it's gone.
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Post by breezy on Dec 6, 2021 18:04:41 GMT -5
Article by Jen Toland in the Telegram today: www.telegram.com/story/sports/college/2021/12/06/holy-cross-football-coach-bob-chesney-patriot-league-football-bowl-subdivision-villanova-playoffs/8886394002/In the article, Chesney is asked if he will be back as coach at Holy Cross next fall. His answer: “Of course. You never know how that all plays out, obviously, but I think at the same time, right now, this is where I’m at and I love being with these guys and I think we built something very special and I’ve loved every minute of it.” Also obviously, things can change quickly if the right opportunity comes along. Let's hope the right opportunity comes along (much) later. Also of interest: "Chesney said 13 seniors – offensive lineman Nick Olsofka, wide receiver Spencer Gilliam, running back Peter Oliver, offensive lineman Grady Smith, cornerback John Smith, defensive lineman Jake Reichwein, linebacker Liam Doran, defensive back Walter Reynolds, defensive back Terrell Prince, defensive lineman Dan Kuznetsov, linebacker Liam Anderson, offensive lineman Jack McCauley and defensive back Cristos Argys – are coming back in 2022 for a fifth season, which bodes brilliantly for HC’s immediate future." In sum -- 29 seniors on the roster for 2021; 16 will depart and 13 will return. (Assuming the roster limit goes back to the maximum of 90 players -- and assuming no other attrition among the underclassmen -- this leaves room for a recruiting class of 10 players). If there is any attrition among the underclassmen, the number goes up accordingly. Then the question becomes -- how many in the recruiting class will be incoming freshmen, and how many might be transfers in from the portal. Early signing day is only 9 days away.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 6, 2021 19:41:01 GMT -5
They are rather thin at DT. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to sure that up with an experienced transfer with good size.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 6, 2021 19:57:17 GMT -5
Can you imagine if we were signing a class of 13 players that promised-100% guarantee- to be as good as the 13 returning seniors? We'd be ecstatic. Essentially we have signed such a class in that the 13 are returning and they'll be 22 year olds not 18 year olds. This is a hugely positive development for HC. Yes, I do know that other schools will also be returning some seniors for a 5th year but I sure like our list.
Alas--I don't see Derek Ng's name.....
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 6, 2021 20:08:31 GMT -5
They are rather thin at DT. Wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to sure that up with an experienced transfer with good size. Agreed, Matt Cedeno was on the fence about a 5th year and maybe he still has time to change his mind. Modak is definitely moving on. That leaves Dyer and Springer both recovering from injuries and will need big offseasons with Coach Grautski. Also the two big freshman with good size. We ended up playing a lot of 3-3-5 (with Modak being an outstanding nose guard) so I could see that remaining our base Defense to maximize our strengths. As it stands, D-Tackle and kicker are the ONLY positions we will have major question marks Going into next season. Pretty remarkable.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 6, 2021 20:49:12 GMT -5
Yes, I think I can say now that Jason was the guy who told me he wasn't sure what he was going to do with his extra year of eligibility. Guess he's made up his mind. Pretty sure he'd like to have some grad school paid off with his football talent.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 6, 2021 22:06:22 GMT -5
I have to say the one I am most surprised (very pleasantly) is John Smith. He would have multiple FBS offers and I’m sure at least one with a good masters program in higher education or sports administration. I also think with his tape this year Liam Anderson has FBS or top CAA full scholarship talent.
It’s a remarkable testament of the love for this program, college and each other that this many seniors are returning.
Last season, 5 Seniors chose to use their extra year of eligibility playing for another program while 6 returned to HC. It appears not one in this class wants to finish their career somewhere else! Just take that in for a sec…
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Post by HC92 on Dec 7, 2021 6:29:06 GMT -5
Can you imagine if we were signing a class of 13 players that promised-100% guarantee- to be as good as the 13 returning seniors? We'd be ecstatic. Essentially we have signed such a class in that the 13 are returning and they'll be 22 year olds not 18 year olds. This is a hugely positive development for HC. Yes, I do know that other schools will also be returning some seniors for a 5th year but I sure like our list. Alas--I don't see Derek Ng's name..... It definitely makes us a much stronger team next year. Not so much the following year when we have a lot of frosh and a much smaller number of returnees with significant playing experience in college. Not quite sure we’re in the reloading stratosphere yet. Could be a significant rebuild at that point. We currently have four verbals. With 13 returnees and a roster cap of 90, that makes for a very small class coming in next year. I’m excited for how good we should be next year but worried about the future beyond that especially with Chesney unlikely to be around in 2023.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 7:00:46 GMT -5
Spot on HC92. It’s not about success just for now. It’s sustained success. I guess we will see what happens in 8 days.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 7, 2021 7:04:23 GMT -5
How different would that be from most other teams? Aren’t many stockpiling extra-Covid year players, smaller incoming as a result?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 7:27:35 GMT -5
Not sure - but I'll use Lehigh as someone who isn't doing it this way. They have offered 120 kids and got 8 verbals. They lost a couple of verbals already, including the LB HC just offered above in Stolsky. That said - they are going about recruiting much differently. Delaware - in reviewing their board has 9 verbals, etc.
If HC used the transfer portal heavily the point is moot. But they don't.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 7, 2021 8:18:59 GMT -5
Spot on HC92. It’s not about success just for now. It’s sustained success. I guess we will see what happens in 8 days. Agree 100%. By loading up on seniors and post-grads on next year’s roster, we are sacrificing the development of our underclassmen. I suspect Chesney knows he is here for one more year so what happens after that is likely not a priority for him at the moment. We will have to pay the piper eventually.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 7, 2021 8:26:27 GMT -5
While he may not be popular here and his team took their lumps this year, apparently Tom Gilmore's job is safe for now and he had a younger team that seems to be gelling. Lehigh apparently didn't benefit as much as Holy Cross and other teams this past season with 5th year players and seniors.
I expect that next season our team will be even stronger than this year with so many key players coming back. That "wave" will be subsiding after 2022.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 7, 2021 8:46:55 GMT -5
The Wildcard here is how many players with an extra year of COVID eligibility continue to use it at HC. While I don’t expect 13 every year, say it’s 8-10 (and usually starters). The wave really wouldn’t start to subsidize until 2024 or even 2025.
We know we are now going to be loaded on both sides of the ball in 2022. But just think about what the offense in 2023 could look like…(SSR designates Super Senior)
QBs Sluka SR / Siderman SR RBs Purdy SSR / Forrest SSR / Fuller JR WRs Coker SR/ Asante SSR / Shorter JR / Shipman SR TEs Morris SSR / Pedersen JR OTs McMutrie SSR / Newman SR OGs Hanson SSR / Schon SR C ?
More question marks on defense but I’d ride with that offense against almost any Defense on our schedule in 2023. Fun thought exercise but let’s focus on the next few weeks and enjoy 2022 first!
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 9:30:04 GMT -5
But play that out. Next year you'd have 13 Super Seniors (based on Bob's comments yesterday regarding who's coming back). And you have a class of 22 Juniors now who will be Seniors.
That's a total of 35. Let's say 13 of the 22 Juniors come back as Super Seniors (like this year). Right there you'd have the ability to sign a 22 player class to get back on track.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 7, 2021 10:36:50 GMT -5
The Wildcard here is how many players with an extra year of COVID eligibility continue to use it at HC. While I don’t expect 13 every year, say it’s 8-10 (and usually starters). The wave really wouldn’t start to subsidize until 2024 or even 2025. We know we are now going to be loaded on both sides of the ball in 2022. But just think about what the offense in 2023 could look like…(SSR designates Super Senior) QBs Sluka SR / Siderman SR RBs Purdy SSR / Forrest SSR / Fuller JR WRs Coker SR/ Asante SSR / Shorter JR / Shipman SR TEs Morris SSR / Pedersen JR OTs McMutrie SSR / Newman SR OGs Hanson SSR / Schon SR C ? More question marks on defense but I’d ride with that offense against almost any Defense on our schedule in 2023. Fun thought exercise but let’s focus on the next few weeks and enjoy 2022 first! Nice work. I think if you do the same on defense you will see a potential problem. The only current members of the roster who will be seniors or super seniors in 2023 and thus far have any real game experience on the back end include S Hunter Burns (SSR) and CB Terrance Spence (SR). The DBs will be very thin in 2023 if we don’t start assimilating more sophomores and juniors into the mix next season.
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