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Post by Tom on Oct 24, 2021 10:12:09 GMT -5
I think we should let fans enjoy our sporting events on their terms. Unless we’re selling out games and people who want to watch the game can’t get in, I see no harm in people tailgating or hanging out by the beer stand and talking or whatever they want. As the team continues to put a great product on the field, more of those people will watch more of the game. But it’ll never be 100% glued to the game at all times. Every new baseball stadium being constructed today is designed to allow lots of social interaction with a game in the background. We should embrace that and engage those fans rather than swimming against the tide. The "like" button isn't enough for this post. I need a "wicked like" button in this case
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Post by timholycross on Oct 24, 2021 10:28:27 GMT -5
One thing we have going against us at Fitton is the "supply and demand" issue, for lack of a better phrase.
That is, anyone contemplating going to a game will make 200% sure they can go (weather, personal issues, etc.) because they know that there will always be a seat or two or three for them if they decide to attend. This actually hurts attendance and advance sales.
Our place is too big and in so doing also skimped badly on the amenities that crowds in this era are looking for.
Fitton does have one advantage in perfect weather- better tailgating!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 24, 2021 10:39:21 GMT -5
Any sense how many students were there? I know many were probably sitting with their parents. One indicator would be the buses that HC was supposedly running from College St. to Polar.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 24, 2021 10:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 24, 2021 11:18:11 GMT -5
Started to watch the ESPN+ replay and have to say the camera work was especially professional over what we've seen in prior games. Much more than just the usual midfield camera angle. A tribute to the folks at WooSox and/or Spectrum 1. Super sharp picture.
While I have not seen anything on the tape yet, and might not, they sent up a drone at least twice and not sure if that was for Polar Park publicity or was used during the game. Little question is was to capture the crowd from above.
I also agree with nd that there may very well have been more than the announced attendance and wouldn't be surprised if there were more than 10,000 in the stadium. The usher near us said they normally get about 4-5,000 for a weekday baseball game and close to sell out most weekend games.
And, thanks for those efforts to get me to the Green Island Blvd. Parking Garage. It was there and where the day before the gates were closed for "construction" with no apparent way to get in, it was open yesterday and actually had a sign and LAZ parking folks directed into the garage. The DCU Club is also very nice and where we were to have our 1970 delayed-50th Reunion banquet but unfortunately canceled again.
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 24, 2021 12:42:47 GMT -5
A few thoughts/comments about the game: 1.) It was a very well produced, successful and well attended event! 2.) There were very long lines at the concession stands, especially at halftime. 3.) The concourse walkway was wall to wall people, especially at the half. 4.) Finally found the "Coney Island Hot Dog" booth at the half! (By the way, what's with the 7% Exclusive Tax RA on food and drink?) 5.) The atmosphere was great and the "W" was icing on the cake! That being said, I would VERY MUCH rather watch a football game at Fitton than Polar Park!!! Combine the amenities, concessions, night game atmosphere with the great seating/viewing of Fitton and you have a fantastic winning venue!!! We had seats in Section 2, 19 rows up. I have attached 3 pictures of views from our seats... This is looking left of our seats toward the video board. Almost all seats on the third base side have an obstructed view of the video board (poorly placed in my opinion). This looking straight out at the field from our seats. Not a bad sight line for the game, but Fitton is much, much better! This is looking right from our seats.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 24, 2021 12:51:11 GMT -5
How about those purple lights in each overhang?! GO PURPLE!
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 24, 2021 13:08:21 GMT -5
The following comments were provided by the gentleman sitting next to me who is a WooSox baseball season ticket holder.... 1.) The lights on the poles around the field can be changed to different color schemes. At baseball games they have kids "flip" the switch to turn them on. 2.) The group of lights on the poles are in the shape of a heart, indicating love for Worcester. 3.) After games they have outstanding "fireworks" shows. 4.) They have plans for concerts, hockey, shows and many other things to make it a year round attraction. 5.) The berm beyond the left field wall has a playground area for kids. 6.) The sound system and acoustics are fantastic, He said everybody raves about them! (I felt good about this and told him so, because my son-in-law spent weeks there installing it for the company he works for). 7.) He did complain that as WooSox season ticket holders they were not allowed to purchase their seats for this game. Here are two more photos: The back of the Sweatshirt #15 (Jake Jarmolowich Fr. DB for Holy Cross and #21 (Mikey Jarmolowich Jr. DB for Colgate) The front of the Sweatshirt lettering is: Holy Gate. On the way out I commented to the mom "well, there was no way you were going to lose tonight"! The game was televised on Spectrum 1 cable TV. So I went to the "Guide" on the TV remote to DVR it.... Didn't realize the EBW Classic was a High School game!!!
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Post by hcpride on Oct 24, 2021 13:11:25 GMT -5
Good photos from The Telegram. At the risk of stating the obvious, it looks like the maskers have given up the ghost at the football games. Even indoors - as that referenced photo of our prez and Lucchino illustrates.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 24, 2021 13:13:07 GMT -5
No photos is bad news, because one photo (also on the HC website) does make him look very much (as was posted earlier) like a quicker, younger Larry Csonka! What ? Oliver is a nice 1AA runner. Csonka was a great All American running back at Syracuse and an All Pro in the NFL for years. Nothing against Oliver, but You are comparing vastly different players.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 24, 2021 13:21:57 GMT -5
No photos is bad news, because one photo (also on the HC website) does make him look very much (as was posted earlier) like a quicker, younger Larry Csonka! What ? Oliver is a nice 1AA runner. Csonka was a great All American running back at Syracuse and an All Pro in the NFL for years. Nothing against Oliver, but You are comparing vastly different players. What on earth are you talking about? I saw Larry play many times (including at Fitton Field). In that photo he DID most certainly look to me like Csonka. I offered no comparison other than the picture and the Csonka I saw, and remember. What, exactly is wrong with that? (Also, just for clarification, any two players can be compared at any time. It does not mean they are equal in any way.) If you believe there are players who cannot be compared for some reason, please state the reason(s) and list what players you want excluded from any. comparison.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 24, 2021 13:36:20 GMT -5
Good photos from The Telegram. At the risk of stating the obvious, it looks like the maskers have given up the ghost at the football games. Even indoors - as that referenced photo of our prez and Lucchino illustrates. Odd that you are so focused on that.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 24, 2021 13:40:40 GMT -5
I'm the one who made the comparison to Csonka first and I too saw him play and there is a fair comparison. No one is saying that Oliver compares to Larry the NFL player because Peter hasn't had any post grad playing time and may not ever but we are comparing college against comparable teams. And, LC was as big as most linemen often bigger (like against Holy Cross) in his day and Peter, a tad smaller than most linemen. But if anyone doesn't see the power comparison, ability to run over and through would-be tacklers, he/she hasn't been watching. And, as I posted previously, he has a greater ability to make tacklers miss. Csonka didn't simply because he didn't need to.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 24, 2021 13:50:27 GMT -5
I'm the one who made the comparison to Csonka first and I too saw him play and there is a fair comparison. No one is saying that Oliver compares to Larry the NFL player because Peter hasn't had any post grad playing time and may not ever but we are comparing college against comparable teams. And, LC was as big as most linemen often bigger (like against Holy Cross) in his day and Peter, a tad smaller than most linemen. But if anyone doesn't see the power comparison, ability to run over and through would-be tacklers, he/she hasn't been watching. And, as I posted previously, he has a greater ability to make tacklers miss. Csonka didn't simply because he didn't need to. I also saw Csonka play at Fitton I have been watching Oliver. Syracuse in the late 60s and Holy Cross today are very dissimilar brands of football Csonka’s College stats www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/larry-csonka-1.htmlNeed I put up Oliver’s ?
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Post by DiMarz on Oct 24, 2021 14:01:29 GMT -5
In the Telegram's pictures, nice to see newly installed Holy Cross President Vincent Rougeau in attendance..
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Post by gks on Oct 24, 2021 14:08:55 GMT -5
Good photos from The Telegram. At the risk of stating the obvious, it looks like the maskers have given up the ghost at the football games. Even indoors - as that referenced photo of our prez and Lucchino illustrates. If you're going to require masks on the campus you oversee maybe you should wear one indoors and follow the Worcester city mask mandate..... For the record: I have no problem with not wearing it. Just not a good look and he's not the only one....
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Post by hcpride on Oct 24, 2021 14:13:49 GMT -5
Good photos from The Telegram. At the risk of stating the obvious, it looks like the maskers have given up the ghost at the football games. Even indoors - as that referenced photo of our prez and Lucchino illustrates. Odd that you are so focused on that. Odd that you are so focused on my single comment. Beyond that, it is nice to see our maskless college president and Mr. Lucchino chatting it up amicably and at close quarters indoors during yesterday's football game. And all the happy smiling maskless faces out in the packed crowd: www.telegram.com/picture-gallery/sports/2021/10/24/photos-holy-cross-football-polar-park/6160928001/Normalcy at long last.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 24, 2021 14:35:55 GMT -5
I'm the one who made the comparison to Csonka first and I too saw him play and there is a fair comparison. No one is saying that Oliver compares to Larry the NFL player because Peter hasn't had any post grad playing time and may not ever but we are comparing college against comparable teams. And, LC was as big as most linemen often bigger (like against Holy Cross) in his day and Peter, a tad smaller than most linemen. But if anyone doesn't see the power comparison, ability to run over and through would-be tacklers, he/she hasn't been watching. And, as I posted previously, he has a greater ability to make tacklers miss. Csonka didn't simply because he didn't need to. I also saw Csonka play at Fitton I have been watching Oliver. Syracuse in the late 60s and Holy Cross today are very dissimilar brands of football Csonka’s College stats www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/larry-csonka-1.htmlNeed I put up Oliver’s ? As hoops suggested it was a different brand of football back then( college and pro), and while the running style of these fine players is a very fair comparison the talent level required to play at the two levels is very different. So I could agree with both sides depending on the comparison.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 24, 2021 14:47:36 GMT -5
Reference Peter Oliver I think the announcers noted his top previous yards gained was eighty-something. If that is the case, yesterday v Colgate (154 yards) was a huge jump for him in terms of a personal best.
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Post by gks on Oct 24, 2021 14:53:30 GMT -5
Pete is a tough runner that runs tough plays. He looks healthy and fast.
And his O-Line, especially the interior, were kicking arse yesterday.
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 24, 2021 19:28:16 GMT -5
While I have not seen anything on the tape yet, and might not, they sent up a drone at least twice and not sure if that was for Polar Park publicity or was used during the game. Little question is was to capture the crowd from above.
Drones are not supposed to be flown during a NCAA football game. It "CAN" be a 15 yard penalty on the home team. The guy that was running it was doing it for Polar Park.
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 24, 2021 19:29:18 GMT -5
Good photos from The Telegram. At the risk of stating the obvious, it looks like the maskers have given up the ghost at the football games. Even indoors - as that referenced photo of our prez and Lucchino illustrates. If you're going to require masks on the campus you oversee maybe you should wear one indoors and follow the Worcester city mask mandate..... For the record: I have no problem with not wearing it. Just not a good look and he's not the only one.... I know the Holy Cross Media Relations staff was masked up in the press box.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 24, 2021 19:42:23 GMT -5
If you read the game recap on the Colgate website there is a nice action photo by Brian Foley. How did the Media Relations staff treat the working press at Polar? Was any Boston Media covering the game?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 24, 2021 20:00:55 GMT -5
Maybe they took the mask off just for a few media relations candid shots for the Telegram.
After the picture was taken, it was time to mask up. Unless you were in the suite, you do not know the full extent of how long they were unmasked. The real travesty regarding flaunting a mask request came on Friday afternoon when everyone, except one, was wearing a mask at the Hart Center.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 24, 2021 20:38:55 GMT -5
Flouting likely
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