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Post by timholycross on May 18, 2021 7:32:16 GMT -5
Do those boxes behind the Colgate bench represent temporary seating? The field barely fits...329 down the left field line. Has to be a decent amount of foul territory on the first base site to fit a 360 long field. Please don't take this as a "piss on your cornflakes" comment, just a safety one.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 18, 2021 7:58:15 GMT -5
Is there a reason not wanting to see the Southbridge Street corridor be in future plans for improvement, since the canal district is adjacent?
The city can provide economic incentives to the current businesses, as well use a thoughtful process to attract new core businesses.
The street has been distressed for over the last 60 years. The city should make incremental changes regarding landscaping to the corridor from Miss Woo to I 290. It can be developed, but it has been neglected.
The corridor can be made into a 21st century incubator industrial park, that will provide jobs to the citizens of Worcester, instead of a hodgepodge of marginal businesses and abandoned lots.
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Post by HCFC45 on May 18, 2021 12:01:57 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on May 18, 2021 12:07:41 GMT -5
Is there a reason not wanting to see the Southbridge Street corridor be in future plans for improvement, since the canal district is adjacent? The city can provide economic incentives to the current businesses, as well use a thoughtful process to attract new core businesses. The street has been distressed for over the last 60 years. The city should make incremental changes regarding landscaping to the corridor from Miss Woo to I 290. It can be developed, but it has been neglected. The corridor can be made into a 21st century incubator industrial park, that will provide jobs to the citizens of Worcester, instead of a hodgepodge of marginal businesses and abandoned lots. you answered my question if the street is as you described it. Flourishing but ugly enterprises are a different matter.
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Post by crusader12 on May 18, 2021 12:15:24 GMT -5
I love this image of the HC logo on the PP scoreboard, and I love the idea of bringing HC football closer into the heart of Worcester. What better location than Kelley Square? It's probably true as some have noted that Worcester residents are less invested in HC sports, but this brings HC to them instead of having them come to HC. I remember a Worcester resident once referring to HC as "the snobs on the Hill." I don't think everyone in Worcester feels this way, but I applaud this venture. It strikes me as a chance to engage more directly with the city. Agreed! Can you imagine complaining about this? Yes
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Post by thecrossisback on May 18, 2021 12:19:05 GMT -5
That is so lame on the Railers part. A team I like. But everybody has been there and done that with the Railers. The thing is they could care less about HC because they don't even let us use the rink for Hockey East. Islanders have Bridgeport anyway ECHL is another step below. Plus fans have 35 other home games to attend. They have sold out opening night a few times.
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Post by football44 on May 18, 2021 12:26:34 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on May 18, 2021 12:27:21 GMT -5
I like the idea of this night game in the middle of the season - but I wonder if they seriously considered GU for this event on Oct 16 ? the Hoyas could be better than Colgate and there would not be a conflict with Family Weekend
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Post by football44 on May 18, 2021 14:15:27 GMT -5
purplehaze I think they are trying to get "Families" from Holy Cross downtown for the game. Mingle with the Worcester folks. Go to the bars and restaurants around Polar Park. I heard there may be buses leaving from Hogan to drop people off at Polar Park. We are trying to market our great football program to "ALL" of Worcester not just the kids and their families from Holy Cross.
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Post by alum on May 18, 2021 14:24:33 GMT -5
purplehaze I think they are trying to get "Families" from Holy Cross downtown for the game. Mingle with the Worcester folks. Go to the bars and restaurants around Polar Park. I heard there may be buses leaving from Hogan to drop people off at Polar Park. We are trying to market our great football program to "ALL" of Worcester not just the kids and their families from Holy Cross.Also sounds like the College and the city are trying to market Worcester to HC parents and students and that's a pretty good idea, too!
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Post by football44 on May 18, 2021 14:32:48 GMT -5
Absolutely agree with you alum!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 18, 2021 14:43:44 GMT -5
I like the idea of this night game in the middle of the season - but I wonder if they seriously considered GU for this event on Oct 16 ? the Hoyas could be better than Colgate and there would not be a conflict with Family WeekendDoubtful. The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2021 15:32:13 GMT -5
If both Woo Sox and HC season ticket holders will have first dibs on tickets and HC reserves a good amount for the family weekend participants and other students and faculty/staff and the park actually seats a lot less than the 10,000 that was initially associated with the project, that doesn't leave too many ducats for the community.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2021 15:40:28 GMT -5
I assume the large group of major and minor sponsors, advertisers, limited partners, etc. all have preferred access for tickets also. As long as ticket prices are kept reasonable there's a good shot at a sellout but with the game being locally televised as well as on ESPN+ nobody will be prevented from watching it if it does sell out.
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Post by deep Purple on May 18, 2021 15:51:30 GMT -5
I like the idea of this night game in the middle of the season - but I wonder if they seriously considered GU for this event on Oct 16 ? the Hoyas could be better than Colgate and there would not be a conflict with Family WeekendDoubtful. The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard. Agree. I think if they play there in the future, the best opponent would be an ivy or URI/Maine/UNH.
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Post by bringbackcaro on May 18, 2021 16:50:25 GMT -5
I like the idea of this night game in the middle of the season - but I wonder if they seriously considered GU for this event on Oct 16 ? the Hoyas could be better than Colgate and there would not be a conflict with Family WeekendDoubtful. The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard. Huh? A casual fan from Worcester is more likely to recognize the Colgate brand than Georgetown, a national school famous for being in the Big East? I bet a lot of casual Worcester fans who don't follow HC/the pL don't even know Colgate is a college and/or has a D1 football team. If you took a random poll of Worcesterites and asked them who has a better football team, Georgetown or Sam Houston State (the team that just won the championship), the majority would probably say Georgetown.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 18, 2021 17:07:07 GMT -5
The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard. That Georgetown has appeared 12 times in Worcester since 1997 does not suggest much awareness of the local sports fan in any PL team. Why would it hurt attendance?
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Post by bfoley82 on May 18, 2021 17:14:29 GMT -5
Doubtful. The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard. Huh? A casual fan from Worcester is more likely to recognize the Colgate brand than Georgetown, a national school famous for being in the Big East? I bet a lot of casual Worcester fans who don't follow HC/the pL don't even know Colgate is a college and/or has a D1 football team. If you took a random poll of Worcesterites and asked them who has a better football team, Georgetown or Sam Houston State (the team that just won the championship), the majority would probably say Georgetown. I bet a lot of people in Worcester don't know Holy Cross has a D-1 football team.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 18, 2021 17:33:13 GMT -5
Doubtful. The casual fan Worc market is a "name" school fan. 80% of the region would think they were going to basketball game, and 90% likely don't even know Gtown has a FB program. This would hurt attendance - trust me. 'gate is second best home opponent "name" after Harvard. Huh? A casual fan from Worcester is more likely to recognize the Colgate brand than Georgetown, a national school famous for being in the Big East? I bet a lot of casual Worcester fans who don't follow HC/the pL don't even know Colgate is a college and/or has a D1 football team. If you took a random poll of Worcesterites and asked them who has a better football team, Georgetown or Sam Houston State (the team that just won the championship), the majority would probably say Georgetown. "Casual fans from Worcester" aren't going to this game. Unless they're inaugural WooSox season ticket holders that maybe get an email about it. Georgetown wouldn't have made sense because they wouldn't bring any more of their own fans than they would for a game at Fitton. How many Georgetown alum in the Boston area care about Hoya football? Answer is probably in the single digits. And a football game in Worcester at a minor league baseball park is not a novelty whatsoever for the typical Georgetown sports fan (alum or not) within 6 hour driving distance. This is a fan base that's used to attending road games at MSG, The Carrier Dome, Hinkle Field House and Wells Fargo Arena. Sorry, Polar Park isn't going to move the needle. Colgate alum in both the NY and Boston metro areas will be much more likely to show up in numbers. WRT to Georgetown, A Hoya-Crusader football matchup at Audi Field in DC would make more sense.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 18, 2021 17:53:30 GMT -5
Georgetown wouldn't have made sense because they wouldn't bring any more of their own fans than they would for a game at Fitton. How many Georgetown alum in the Boston area care about Hoya football? Answer is probably in the single digits. And a football game in Worcester at a minor league baseball park is not a novelty whatsoever for the typical Georgetown sports fan (alum or not) within 6 hour driving distance. This is a fan base that's used to attending road games at MSG, The Carrier Dome, Hinkle Field House and Wells Fargo Arena. Sorry, Polar Park isn't going to move the needle. Colgate alum in both the NY and Boston metro areas will be much more likely to show up in numbers. WRT to Georgetown, A Hoya-Crusader football matchup at Audi Field in DC would make more sense. Georgetown fans aren't filling Polar Park. Colgate fans aren't filling Polar Park, either. This is presumably an event to bring locals into the fold, not to sell road tickets. Why would a matchup with Holy Cross at Audi Field make more sense? The same calculus applies--it's about local turnout. Georgetown tried this approach with Harvard at RFK Stadium and learned its lesson: Washington DC wasn't interested in Harvard. I'm not sure DC rallies to see Holy Cross, either.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2021 17:55:45 GMT -5
I hadn't heard of Audi Field so I googled it. It opened in 2018, seats 20,504 for soccer, houses the DC United MLS team, hosted hone games for the Washington XFL football team, is city owned and cost $400-500 million to build. That would be a great spot for a GU-HC game. If Holy Cross keeps winning interest in the program will rise. With the Ivy League unilaterally boycotting the FCS Tournament, it's hard to get excited about Harvard football. Non league contests in the IL don't even count towards the one thing that can be won, a league championship.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 18, 2021 18:05:15 GMT -5
Georgetown wouldn't have made sense because they wouldn't bring any more of their own fans than they would for a game at Fitton. How many Georgetown alum in the Boston area care about Hoya football? Answer is probably in the single digits. And a football game in Worcester at a minor league baseball park is not a novelty whatsoever for the typical Georgetown sports fan (alum or not) within 6 hour driving distance. This is a fan base that's used to attending road games at MSG, The Carrier Dome, Hinkle Field House and Wells Fargo Arena. Sorry, Polar Park isn't going to move the needle. Colgate alum in both the NY and Boston metro areas will be much more likely to show up in numbers. WRT to Georgetown, A Hoya-Crusader football matchup at Audi Field in DC would make more sense. Georgetown fans aren't filling Polar Park. Colgate fans aren't filling Polar Park, either. This is presumably an event to bring locals into the fold, not to sell road tickets. Why would a matchup with Holy Cross at Audi Field make more sense? The same calculus applies--it's about local turnout. Georgetown tried this approach with Harvard at RFK Stadium and learned its lesson: Washington DC wasn't interested in Harvard. I'm not sure DC rallies to see Holy Cross, either. THERE ARE NO CASUAL LOCAL FANS ANYMORE WHEN IT COMES TO LOW-LEVEL FCS FOOTBALL. Filling a stadium is a function of ginning up turnout from alum and fans of the schools involved.
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Post by hcgrad94 on May 18, 2021 18:14:16 GMT -5
If both Woo Sox and HC season ticket holders will have first dibs on tickets and HC reserves a good amount for the family weekend participants and other students and faculty/staff and the park actually seats a lot less than the 10,000 that was initially associated with the project, that doesn't leave too many ducats for the community. Oh what’s the real capacity? I have heard 9600 but sounds like you have better info. Appreciate you setting things straight.
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Post by hcgrad94 on May 18, 2021 18:16:21 GMT -5
Georgetown fans aren't filling Polar Park. Colgate fans aren't filling Polar Park, either. This is presumably an event to bring locals into the fold, not to sell road tickets. Why would a matchup with Holy Cross at Audi Field make more sense? The same calculus applies--it's about local turnout. Georgetown tried this approach with Harvard at RFK Stadium and learned its lesson: Washington DC wasn't interested in Harvard. I'm not sure DC rallies to see Holy Cross, either. THERE ARE NO CASUAL LOCAL FANS ANYMORE WHEN IT COMES TO LOW-LEVEL FCS FOOTBALL. Filling a stadium is a function of ginning up turnout from alum and fans of the schools involved. There are casual fans for an EVENT. That’s what this will be. An EVENT. My experience is people like them. Especially when they are in a unique setting with access to good food and drinks. And BTW who said there will be no tailgating - didn’t read that anywhere. Surface lots directly across from the stadium look like they would be perfect for that.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2021 18:21:48 GMT -5
Yes, it's a year long project by staffers at both schools and alumni volunteers to pull off a successful event like HC-Fordham at Yankee Stadium or HC-GU at Audi Field. HC gets to ride the wave of free publicity surrounding Polar Park's opening to avoid much of the legwork necessary to pull off this fall's event.
Another benefit will be if it brings HC and successful neighbor Polar Beverages closer together.
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