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Post by trimster on May 19, 2021 14:04:35 GMT -5
I'm sure Cliff Rucker's city bag-man Tim Murray got an earful Monday afternoon. Tough sh*t Cliff. Deal with it. Too funny.
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Post by DiMarz on May 19, 2021 14:46:15 GMT -5
you answered my question if the street is as you described it. Flourishing but ugly enterprises are a different matter. Have you driven Southbridge St from the Miss Woo to HC in the last couple of years? I would not describe it as flourishing. I remember several Enterprises that were pretty seedy that you would not take a family member. Certainly would cause concern for parents on their first college tours to see HC. True, however if you get on route 290 at the bottom of College street and get off at Kelley Square (2nd exit) it isa different experience! Going into the square and turning right brings one to the canal district. There it is a whole new world, restaurants, clubs, marketplace and more. Polar Park is 200 yards from there. The Canal District proprietors are a big reason why the Sox are in Worcester. It is the up and coming neighborhood that is growing quickly. Lots of new housing, condos and apartments. I heard ona TV broadcast that the play by play guy has moved into the neighborhood, 2 blocks from the stadium. And many of the players are there also. Walk to work and plenty of options for food and entertainment.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 19, 2021 15:12:28 GMT -5
Just saw the T&G is reporting the Worcester Railers home opener is the same day, (not sure what time), as the Colgate game at PP. The headline is something has to give. Typical Worcester, we can only have one good thing at a time. People thought Mechanics Hall would go out of business when the Hanover Theatre was renovated. They’ve had their best years since. The Railers, Worcester Red Sox and Bravehearts can all thrive. If you disagree, we’ll know within a couple years. Bravehearts are not going to survive. The league is likely to collapse within five years.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 19, 2021 15:15:50 GMT -5
I was mad at first but I don't think the Railers make their schedule. Railers likely give open dates for the arena to the league and the ECHL picks which of those dates they are going to fill.
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 15:31:15 GMT -5
Kevin Shea and Andy Lacombe from the Worcester Spectrum TV station will have to send an intern over to the DCU Center to cover the Railers opening night. I assume Kevin and Andy will be the broadcast team for both the local and national ESPN+ telecasts. Why pay two teams? But if they do the more the merrier. Colgate probably still has a radio play by play guy and analyst so it should be a festive night for the media. It would be nice if they put together a short highlight reel to honor Bob Fouracre during the telecast.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 15:32:07 GMT -5
Joe Lang to Florida State didn’t know what thread to put it in.
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 15:42:04 GMT -5
The only thing better than the announcement of this game would be an announcement that HC partnered with the Woo Sox sales team and they gave all of the Woo Sox advertisers the opportunity to add eleven football radio broadcasts in the fall to their plan, with the Sox getting a fair commission on the increased sales, and it was enough to put Dick Lutsk back up on the air for the upcoming season.
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Post by HC92 on May 19, 2021 15:43:30 GMT -5
My money is on the football game being moved to the afternoon. Don’t think that’s going to happen.
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Post by HC92 on May 19, 2021 15:44:42 GMT -5
Joe Lang to Florida State didn’t know what thread to put it in. Transfer portal. He’ll be a grad transfer there.
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Post by Tom on May 19, 2021 15:47:01 GMT -5
Typical Worcester, we can only have one good thing at a time. People thought Mechanics Hall would go out of business when the Hanover Theatre was renovated. They’ve had their best years since. The Railers, Worcester Red Sox and Bravehearts can all thrive. If you disagree, we’ll know within a couple years. Bravehearts are not going to survive. The league is likely to collapse within five years. What is break even? I assume the Bravehearts obtained the Tornado's free usage of the field. They don't play the players because they're college amateurs. Income is probably pretty low, but I have to believe expenses are pretty low too. Bravehearts baseball is not going to be as good as WooSox baseball. However, it might be a lot cheaper than Polar to take the whole family and there might be demand for that niche
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Post by bfoley82 on May 19, 2021 15:57:56 GMT -5
Bravehearts are not going to survive. The league is likely to collapse within five years. What is break even? I assume the Bravehearts obtained the Tornado's free usage of the field. They don't play the players because they're college amateurs. Income is probably pretty low, but I have to believe expenses are pretty low too. Bravehearts baseball is not going to be as good as WooSox baseball. However, it might be a lot cheaper than Polar to take the whole family and there might be demand for that niche Norwich just added a Futures League team and paying rent of 22,500 at Dodd for each of the next two seasons. They are also spending 30k dollars for police and fire coverage and 50 percent above that. Some of the Norwich city councilors do NOT believe the Futures League is viable for the stadium and the city should get out of the stadium business. www.norwichbulletin.com/story/news/2021/05/18/norwich-leases-stadium-but-baseball-is-winding-down-dodd-stadium/5142016001/
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 16:02:41 GMT -5
What is break even? I assume the Bravehearts obtained the Tornado's free usage of the field. They don't play the players because they're college amateurs. Income is probably pretty low, but I have to believe expenses are pretty low too. Bravehearts baseball is not going to be as good as WooSox baseball. However, it might be a lot cheaper than Polar to take the whole family and there might be demand for that niche Norwich just added a Futures League team and paying rent of 22,500 at Dodd for each of the next two seasons. They are also spending 30k dollars for police and fire coverage and 50 percent above that. Some of the Norwich city councilors do NOT believe the Futures League is viable for the stadium and the city should get out of the stadium business. www.norwichbulletin.com/story/news/2021/05/18/norwich-leases-stadium-but-baseball-is-winding-down-dodd-stadium/5142016001/They can get out of the entertainment business with an occupied stadium and join Pawtucket in the White Elephant business if they want.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 19, 2021 16:04:07 GMT -5
Bravehearts are not going to survive. The league is likely to collapse within five years. What is break even? I assume the Bravehearts obtained the Tornado's free usage of the field. They don't play the players because they're college amateurs. Income is probably pretty low, but I have to believe expenses are pretty low too. Bravehearts baseball is not going to be as good as WooSox baseball. However, it might be a lot cheaper than Polar to take the whole family and there might be demand for that niche It should be noted that Worcester draws nearly DOUBLE the nearest team to them with 2,574 average in 2019. The next closest is Brockton at 1,310. North Shore was at 1,222 (they have left the league and gone back to the NECBL this year), and Nashua was at 1,156. baseball.pointstreak.com/attendance.html?leagueid=258&seasonid=32118New Britain and Nashua were the only ones that allowed fans in 2020 with NB having 771 fans and Nashua at 448. Worcester really should get back into the NECBL which is the better league if they want to stay in business.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 19, 2021 16:05:06 GMT -5
They can get out of the entertainment business with an occupied stadium and join Pawtucket in the White Elephant business if they want. Well, they want to tear it down and since it is in an industrial park, probably build a business there. I was there in 2019 and the facility is starting to show its age.
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 16:13:22 GMT -5
They can get out of the entertainment business with an occupied stadium and join Pawtucket in the White Elephant business if they want. Well, they want to tear it down and since it is in an industrial park, probably build a business there. I was there in 2019 and the facility is starting to show its age. Watched President Biden's commencement address at the Coast Guard Academy a few miles away (not the Gipper, but not a bad speech) and the cement wall of the CGA football stadium was crumbling apart in places. Not a reason to demolish a stadium when new ones like Polar cost $154 million...without bricks.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 19, 2021 19:31:28 GMT -5
Looking at the Linden Lane Web Cam this evening, you can see Polar Park illuminated for tonight’s baseball game against Buffalo.
For an orientation for people that are not familiar with the exact location, look at Carlin Hall, and above the roof, you can see Polar Park. Very nice view from HC at night.
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 19, 2021 19:39:39 GMT -5
New Britain used to have the Rock Cats, but when the new (and very nice) Dunkin Donuts Park opened in Hartford several years ago it became the home of the (newly named) Yard Goats, the Rockies' AA team. New Britain replaced the Rock Cats with the Bees, I think they were originally part of the Atlantic League (?) and now part of the Futures League. When I went to a Bees game 3 years ago there couldn't have bee 50 people at the game. Hard to see how the Futures League keeps hanging on.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 19, 2021 19:48:40 GMT -5
Have you driven Southbridge St from the Miss Woo to HC in the last couple of years? I would not describe it as flourishing. I remember several Enterprises that were pretty seedy that you would not take a family member. Certainly would cause concern for parents on their first college tours to see HC. True, however if you get on route 290 at the bottom of College street and get off at Kelley Square (2nd exit) it isa different experience! Going into the square and turning right brings one to the canal district. There it is a whole new world, restaurants, clubs, marketplace and more. Polar Park is 200 yards from there. The Canal District proprietors are a big reason why the Sox are in Worcester. It is the up and coming neighborhood that is growing quickly. Lots of new housing, condos and apartments. I heard ona TV broadcast that the play by play guy has moved into the neighborhood, 2 blocks from the stadium. And many of the players are there also. Walk to work and plenty of options for food and entertainment. Appearance aspects of Southbridge Street can be readily modified while a planning process for an industrial park are being designed. Add nice lighting and flowering trees along the stretch. For the section along the CSX facility, created a high earth berm with additional trees that will provide visual appeal. For sections south of the CSX facility, on the vacant and abandoned lots, create a series of landscape parks, playgrounds etc., until the area can be reclaimed for a zoned and designated commercially viable use. Now that downtown Worcester is coming alive, thoughts should turn to planning to address this distressed eyesore on a main north south thoroughfare. This stretch has been neglected and creeped me out from my days at HC. It is ripe for visually attractive commercial development that will provide jobs within the city on an established bus route. While I don’t live in the city, we all have a dog in this fight regarding its impact to the neighborhood adjacent to HC.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 19, 2021 20:39:55 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on May 19, 2021 21:19:34 GMT -5
Just don't move the football game to Friday night. Please. Hope that's not an option they're considering.
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Post by HC92 on May 19, 2021 21:21:41 GMT -5
I don’t think there’s any way they move the football game. This has been in the planning process for a long time and the date and start time were well thought out. Don’t see an ECHL game the same night in the same city causing them to te-think all of that.
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 21:27:50 GMT -5
Friday night would be awkward for family weekend requiring some parents to take time off work to make the game. The Railers should go with the flow and show the HC game live on the video board between periods.
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Post by timholycross on May 19, 2021 21:49:05 GMT -5
Friday night would be awkward for family weekend requiring some parents to take time off work to make the game. The Railers should go with the flow and show the HC game live on the video board between periods. The vast majority of parents would simply not make the game part of their trip. Would be equivalent to having PW w/no football game at all. I think for the most part the patrons of the two events are mutually exclusive. Just has to be cleverly planned.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 19, 2021 22:58:35 GMT -5
Another important event is planned for Parents Weekend. The inauguration of the new President Vincent Rougeau.
I am not sure of the exact time or place on campus. It could be either Saturday morning or Sunday morning. If Saturday morning, the football game will have to be on Saturday evening.
My best guess, Friday night will be dinners either on or off campus with the family, as well a HC hockey game, M/W. Saturday morning will be a host of events including seminars and lectures, as well as meet and great with various academic departments and possibly soccer, or field hockey.
Seems like Sunday morning is the logical time for the inauguration, with a Mass in St. Joseph Chapel or on Fitton Field, followed by the Inauguration at 11:00 AM. A reception will follow, and the parents can be on their way home by 2:00 PM. Having to set up Fitton or possibly the IPF, for the inauguration may be the reason that the game has been moved off campus to Polar Park. If a nice day, on Sunday, the reception would be on the baseball field. In the event of inclement weather, the reception could be in both the Hart Arena and the Blaney Gym.
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Post by longsuffering on May 19, 2021 23:45:39 GMT -5
DFW HOYA I’m one of the ones that has a problem with Georgetown being in the Patriot League. I feel the same way towards Army and Navy. Why because each of these institutions conveniently uses the Patriot League when it suits them. When was the last time Georgetown basketball invited Holy Cross to play. We have to beg Army and Navy to play us in football but they show up for all of the other sports. No vitriol just fact. Back when I played Georgetown was a club football team. I couldn’t agree more. Same goes for Fordham which refuses to play us in hoops. I hear you, but without Fordham and Georgetown the PL would go from a one bid FCS conference to a five team no bid FCS conference. Our two Jesuit rivals save us because five of the ten PL schools choose not to play PL football. Perhaps the Service Academies are using the PL for all sports other than football or perhaps the PL is using them or perhaps it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. It's hard to imagine being able to replace the Service Academies with better academic and athletic schools that want to join the PL. Colgate rarely played HC in men's hockey over the years either. It's hard to attach an obligation to Georgetown and Fordham in BB or Colgate and BU in hockey or Army and Navy in football to play HC in those sports where they play in a higher division or better league.
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