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Post by thecrossisback on May 20, 2021 12:22:47 GMT -5
With no sports going on and everybody these days seems to be making these lists of who the greatest is. HC has a tough time picking the best 4 athletes in the school's history.
Who would you put on your HC Mount Rushmore?
My list is
Osmanski- only number retired best football player HC has ever had. His 95 yard touchdown run vs Dartmouth made HC rose Bowl bound. his record at HC 23-3-3
Cousy- Is that even a debate?
Perry Sr- On 2 championship teams. Pitched great in the college World Series on very short rest. 23-2 all time record.
If he doesn't go to HC and is AD does his son go there?
Sockalexis, best baseball player in the schools history on top of having to endure racism because he was Native American. In 1895, Sockalexis batted .436 on a Holy Cross team that finished with a 17-5-2 record. The next year, he topped that by hitting .444.
Sorry Togo, Gordie, Tommy, Jack, Willie, Vince, George C, the other George K, Jim, etc.
No wrong answers lets hear your opinion!
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Post by hchoops on May 20, 2021 12:38:37 GMT -5
Like 3 of yours
I would choose RP Jr over dad
RP Jr was an All America in hoops and a fine baseball player
Close
No national championships, but to me Mt Rushmore is more for individual achievements
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 20, 2021 13:24:41 GMT -5
Where's Jack Lentz?
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Post by thecrossisback on May 20, 2021 13:33:24 GMT -5
I forgot Johnny Turco, Ronnie Cahill as well. Fenerty, Morris, Swiacki, Kozerksi. Were would you put Lentz all time? |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 20, 2021 14:07:07 GMT -5
Like 3 of yours I would choose RP Jr over dad RP Jr was an All America in hoops and a fine baseball player Close No national championships, but to me Mt Rushmore is more for individual achievements I recall that it used to be said that RP Junior was the NCAA's only two-time two sport academic All-America player. He must be on the list I'm going to think about this awhile although it seems clear to me that Cousy and Heinsohn should be the first two on the list for great success at Hoy Cross and extraordinary success in the NBA. This is a great exercise-should be fun. Others to consider: Jimmy Ryan with 2,500+ MLB base hits Rosy Ryan--pitcher on the great NY Giants teams of the 1920's Joe Dugan- infielder on the great Yankees teams of the 1920's Jigger Statz--remember the quiz about the handful of players with 4.000+ professional base hits Andy Kelly-world record holding sprinter Billy Doran-- basketball star and great baseball player Glad to see Vince Promuto on the list--remember that he long held the HC record for shot put in addition to being a great football player for HC and an 11 year NFL veteran and pro bowl player |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 21, 2021 19:34:24 GMT -5
I'm going to go with Cousy, Heinsohn, Ron Perry JR, and Vince Promuto
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Post by mm67 on May 21, 2021 19:48:25 GMT -5
Jack Barry ss for the Philadelphia Athletics on Connie Mack's famous "Million Dollar Infield."
Barry is not top four but certainly deserves a shoutout.
Add Bill Carrigan, early 1900's one of the greatest catchers in Red Sox history.
Don't forget to mention Art Dulong, a great HC track star in the'60's.
Willie Turnesa was the greatest amateur golfer of his generation. Are golfers athletes?
Some day a future generation of HC alums may be writing about the great MLB manager, HC grad Matt Blake ,
currently doing an amazing job as pitching coach of the New York Yankees. Never know.
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Post by lou on May 21, 2021 20:45:19 GMT -5
Hop Riopel, 11 varsity letters in three years, deserves a mention
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Post by hcpride on May 21, 2021 21:50:26 GMT -5
Don’t know about the best, but one of the busiest athletes was Dean Casagrande (‘83) : Excellent at soccer, good in baseball, and backup/spot starter hockey. I think he played 12 seasons.
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Post by longsuffering on May 21, 2021 23:44:39 GMT -5
Paul Harney six time winner on the PGA tour? I assume he enjoyed a cold beer because he won both the Carling Open and the Labatt Open. He finished in the top eight at the Masters four times.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 22, 2021 10:14:15 GMT -5
I was remiss in my earlier post of not mentioning John Provost as worthy of consideration
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Post by hchoops on May 22, 2021 10:21:41 GMT -5
Tom Kelly ‘67 was an All America outfielder in baseball and a fine safety in football who famously made the interception that led to the winning drive vs BC in ‘66
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 22, 2021 20:26:02 GMT -5
Going with this Top 6:
1) Bob Cousy
2) Tom Heinsohn
3) Sockalexis
4) Ronny Perry Sr
5) Gordie
6) Ronnie Perry JR
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Post by hc87 on May 23, 2021 13:01:00 GMT -5
Tough to get to 4....different sports from different eras etc....are we basing this on their achievements only at HC?
If just at HC, I think I go Bullet Bill, Cooz, Tommy Gun and the elder Perry from Somerville.
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Post by hcnation on May 23, 2021 19:48:28 GMT -5
Bob Cousy
Bill Osmanski
Ownie Carroll
Andy Kelly
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 23, 2021 23:26:31 GMT -5
Very thoughtful selections
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Post by Tom on May 24, 2021 7:29:25 GMT -5
First of all, I am assuming there is a provision against voting for yourself. I never got a varsity letter but definitely a legend in my own mind.
Thinking of the greatest athlete other than me, I am biased in favor of the guy that excel at multiple disciplines. That's why I gave the nod to baseball, football, and track guy Sockalexis.
I round out my top 4 with Cousy, Osmanski, and Perry
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Post by newfieguy74 on May 24, 2021 7:50:07 GMT -5
First of all, I am assuming there is a provision against voting for yourself. I never got a varsity letter but definitely a legend in my own mind. Thinking of the greatest athlete other than me, I am biased in favor of the guy that excel at multiple disciplines. That's why I gave the nod to baseball, football, and track guy Sockalexis. I round out my top 4 with Cousy, Osmanski, and Perry If anyone saw me play intramural basketball in the field house I'm sure all would agree I belong in the top 10,000 HC athletes. |
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Post by hchoops on May 24, 2021 8:12:46 GMT -5
First of all, I am assuming there is a provision against voting for yourself. I never got a varsity letter but definitely a legend in my own mind. Thinking of the greatest athlete other than me, I am biased in favor of the guy that excel at multiple disciplines. That's why I gave the nod to baseball, football, and track guy Sockalexis. I round out my top 4 with Cousy, Osmanski, and Perry Which Perry ? |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 24, 2021 8:24:25 GMT -5
Tough to get to 4....different sports from different eras etc....are we basing this on their achievements only at HC? If just at HC, I think I go Bullet Bill, Cooz, Tommy Gun and the elder Perry from Somerville. Agreed. I probably disrespected Bullet Bill by not having him in Top 6... |
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Post by alum on May 24, 2021 11:00:46 GMT -5
If we are talking about what they did at HC, I think my top 4 have to be Cousy, Heinshon, Sockalexsis, and RP, Sr. (2 different national championships.)
If we are talking about their professional careers as well, I would go with Cousy, Heinshon, JImmy Ryan (although one article I read said that while he certainly attended HC, he may not have played for our team) and Paul Harney (6 PGA wins and 6 top 10s in majors while playing part time.)
This is a fun exercise.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on May 24, 2021 11:30:08 GMT -5
if professional careers are included, Bruce Kozerski has to be in the mix.
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Post by thecrossisback on May 24, 2021 11:31:25 GMT -5
Just doing it by sport would be tough. HC has had so many stars. Somebody needs to write a book and put in their ranking.
I am surprised Togo is not higher on peoples list.
How about the best HC players you have actually watched play in person. That would narrow the list.
Mine would be from 2013 and on.
I would have to go Domenic Cozier, Jacob Dobbs, Malachi Alexander, Jehyve Floyd and Riley Livingston. Its tough.
Watched Dave Dudzinski but never saw him play in person.
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Post by possum on May 24, 2021 11:41:49 GMT -5
If going only by their college careers I would take Kaftan over Cousy.
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Post by hchoops on May 24, 2021 14:30:51 GMT -5
Best HC Athletes I have seen in person
Perry Jr
Jack the Shot
Gordie
Gill the Thrill
Foothills
Jon Morris- 5th since I saw him play only one season
(Togo.- playing 1 on 1 in the field house)
Chris Potter
John Wendelken- I saw him play hoops and baseball)
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