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Post by joe on Oct 22, 2016 14:58:26 GMT -5
I'm only thinking about this from Wade's point of view. I'm sure he's a heck of a guy and a team player and all that, but how would you feel if the guy ahead of you suddenly gets to be ahead of you for another whole year? I guess this is one of the hard things about allowing only nonmedical redshirting. For the team it's great, for the individual not always cool. Obviously the team comes first in this scenario.
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Post by sarasota on Oct 22, 2016 15:25:37 GMT -5
PP should transfer to a school that has a graduate program in the field he likes so he can get a Masters, be guaranteed he will start. The potential is that he gets a Masters and maybe a look from the NFL. That's what's best for him. The "RJ Maneuver."
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 22, 2016 15:30:57 GMT -5
You are probably right on that. However, at any school the NFL would be a long shot. I am interested to see what will develop.
Georgetown looked good against Fordham today before losing by only 3. Colgate seems to have our number. Fordham has Edmunds and his 200+ rushing yards at YS. A record of 3-8 could well be the decisive factor in a change. However, if HC somehow wins 2 of the next 3 (including Fordham) and ends up 5-6, could that buy another year?
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Post by lou on Oct 22, 2016 15:33:56 GMT -5
Talent disparity between HC and Lehigh shocking. Why did the AD give Gilmore an extension? Interesting to learn from the announcers that HC has filled out all of the paperwork for Peter to redshirt. Now the question remains, will he do that or come back for the last game or two this season? CTG says it is up to him. Which I don't understand, I thought according to 137, he can only redshirt if the injury is season ending according to the medical staff
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Post by sarasota on Oct 22, 2016 15:34:32 GMT -5
Enough is enough. Past time to pull the trigger. Tell him privately to start looking. Give him a nice buyout. We're pouring millions into facilities. We don't deserve a very mediocre fball coach.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 22, 2016 15:38:10 GMT -5
PP should transfer to a school that has a graduate program in the field he likes so he can get a Masters, be guaranteed he will start. The potential is that he gets a Masters and maybe a look from the NFL. That's what's best for him. The "RJ Maneuver." There are major differences between RJ who came off the bench as one of five players on the court PP would have to find a rare school which would give him the starting QB job with no experience at that school, as well as one having a masters program that interests him. i believe that he will either graduate this year with his classmates or redshirt.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 22, 2016 15:38:37 GMT -5
Interesting to learn from the announcers that HC has filled out all of the paperwork for Peter to redshirt. Now the question remains, will he do that or come back for the last game or two this season? CTG says it is up to him. Which I don't understand, I thought according to 137, he can only redshirt if the injury is season ending according to the medical staff That is correct. However, thee is something g of a gray area there. PP's injury is a type that can be season ending. However, that is not to say he could not accept the risk of even more serious injury and return. I am not sure this is something to leave up to the player. In hoops, something similar happen with Green, who could have stayed out but chose to come back for the late season (and most are glad he did).
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Post by joe on Oct 22, 2016 15:55:41 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 22, 2016 15:56:50 GMT -5
1. Never would have picked HC if I had known Wade was injured. 2. Bell at QB leads to a vanilla passing offense. The offense becomes even more one-dimensional when you take away any run threat from the QB, because you can't afford for him to go down. And, IMO, any success Bell had in previous seasons came from his scrambling, or his running on designed plays. I think the half-time adjustments made by opponents when they see Bell as the QB has contributed to their second half success. 3. Cozier is very shifty, but he needs a passing attack to set up his running. 4. The new turf held up quite well. 5. Boston College lost again.
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Post by realism on Oct 22, 2016 16:02:18 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe. Rather than fantasizing to relieve the pain of accepting reality,.... I think you should be worrying about Bucknell, Lafayette and Georgetown in the next couple of years. ......Or, perhaps finding a more appropriate league ?
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Post by timholycross on Oct 22, 2016 16:04:17 GMT -5
Not that we have much going for us on the sidelines, but BC is very poorly coached.
4th and 2 at the SU 47 with 36 seconds to go in the half...and they punt. Were behind 14-10 at the time. And, BC had two time outs left.
Then, get this one. SU has first and goal at the 5. The qb gets sacked for a loss of around 9 yards. There is a holding penalty on SU. BC takes the penalty! Yes, they traded a down for one yard. Of course, SU scores from 5 yards out on third down, which should have been 4th down and, given the score, a fg attempt.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 22, 2016 16:19:52 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe. Rather than fantasizing to relieve the pain of accepting reality,.... I think you should be worrying about Bucknell, Lafayette and Georgetown in the next couple of years. ......Or, perhaps finding a more appropriate league ? This post makes no sense in the context of the post to which you are responding. Joe asks if we have a plan to avoid getting obliterated by the FBS teams on our schedule over the next few years and you think he's "fantasizing to relieve the pain of accepting reality"? Not sure what school you root for but any chance you could go post on that school's board for a while?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 22, 2016 16:23:35 GMT -5
chu, the PL network feed was terrible. Its a function of Flash. Google and Mozilla are dumping support of Flash by year's end, so if the PL network doesn't change the streaming plug--in before then, not sure how much BB will be viewable. (I've seen schools that are now streaming in YouTube because Google will continue supporting Flash in YouTube and about 4-5 other sites, but the PL Network is certainly not one of them.) fortune.com/2016/07/21/mozilla-google-facebook-phasing-adobe-flash/
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 22, 2016 17:02:38 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe. It was never in the cards to match up with a Power Five conference school (and I'll include Navy.) All FBS schools have 85 full scollie players, PL schools (Georgetown excepted) have a little more than half that number of full scollie players. Simply can't match up depth-wise. As the OOC games against FBS are usually at the start of the season, there is apt to be more roster depth than later in the season. Take today, for example, HC was down to two quarterbacks, one who had been shifted to WR because he is a better WR than he is a QB, and the fifth string. Can you imagine the first half score if HC's two deep roster was playing against Syracuse or Navy today? IMO, the two potential advantages a FCS school has going for it against a Power Five school is that the FCS school can practice for weeks to play that opponent (and the FBS school will not do the same), and the FBS school is unlikely to use its full arsenal against an FCS school, and give its future FBS opponents too many insights into offensive schemes / defensive coverages. In 1983, JoePa invited his alma mater to State College for a game. Brown lost by 17 points. A month earlier, PSU had beaten #3 Alabama in that same stadium by six points. Two weeks before Brown, PSU beat #4 WVU at State College by 18 points. Did JoePa hold back?
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Post by joe on Oct 22, 2016 17:41:49 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe. Rather than fantasizing to relieve the pain of accepting reality,.... I think you should be worrying about Bucknell, Lafayette and Georgetown in the next couple of years. ......Or, perhaps finding a more appropriate league ? I'd answer if I had any clue what this gibberish post means.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 23, 2016 8:24:08 GMT -5
I looked closet at BC, Syracuse, and Navy today. What is the plan to match up with them and avoid a catastrophe. In 1983, JoePa invited his alma mater to State College for a game. Brown lost by 17 points. A month earlier, PSU had beaten #3 Alabama in that same stadium by six points. Two weeks before Brown, PSU beat #4 WVU at State College by 18 points. Did JoePa hold back? I believe he did. JoePa did that sort of thing more than once. I also loved yesterday's Penn State upset of previously #2 Ohio State!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 23, 2016 9:15:19 GMT -5
The FBS games were not scheduled because ADNP thought we would be able to beat Navy, BC and Syracuse with scholarships. It is because the addition of scholarships allow these schools to count wins against us towards bowl eligibility, whereas before they could not. If this had been the case prior, we would have been playing these games previously throughout the TG era.
Some are making it sound like these will be the most lopsided FBS-FCS games ever scheduled, which is false. Plenty of MEAC and SWAC teams that would lose to this years Crusaders by three touchdowns have played body-bag games annually.
That being said, I still would love to see us make it interesting and compete in at least one or two of these games. Maine almost took UConn to OT this year.
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Post by joe on Oct 23, 2016 9:54:16 GMT -5
NY of course. But my fear is that these will be more than the usual blow out. When I look at the size and speed discrepancy I worry about someone getting seriously injured. There is a baseline level of strategic and physical preparedness required to schedule these games and I don't see is as being there, even accounting for injuries.
Anyone remember the Howard vs BC game from last year that was called after the 3rd quarter? Total humiliation. This would do nothing positive for HC, in fact at the hands of BC it would be a blow to the program, where all the big talk about schollies turns into coffee house hot air.
I, for one, expected us to be in a spot where we can maybe impress by keeping these games surprisingly respectable. Just one man's opinion. Question I raise again - how do we get there?
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Post by realism on Oct 23, 2016 10:00:30 GMT -5
The FBS games were not scheduled because ADNP thought we would be able to beat Navy, BC and Syracuse with scholarships. It is because the addition of scholarships allow these schools to count wins against us towards bowl eligibility, whereas before they could not. If this had been the case prior, we would have been playing these games previously throughout the TG era. Some are making it sound like these will be the most lopsided FBS-FCS games ever scheduled, which is false. Plenty of MEAC and SWAC teams that would lose to this years Crusaders by three touchdowns have played body-bag games annually. That being said, I still would love to see us make it interesting and compete in at least one or two of these games. Maine almost took UConn to OT this year. Losing to a Bucknell-Georgetown-Lafayette in the same year of a body bag loss to a Navy, Syracuse, BC is not the fantasy that HC diehards had bought into when the FBS twists to future schedules were initially introduced by ADNP. That alternative future is not as attractive as it seemed initially. H.C. diehards are finally grasping the depths to which its brand has actually reached. Methinks people are gradually coming to the realization that competing with the top teams in the PL is already a reach for H.C.. The lowly Patriot League !
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Post by hchoops on Oct 23, 2016 11:20:55 GMT -5
Realism, Would you mind stating your affiliation please ?
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Post by nhteamer on Oct 23, 2016 12:22:16 GMT -5
Just rewatched the game Oh my, worse the second time!
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Post by hchoops on Oct 23, 2016 12:28:38 GMT -5
Just rewatched the game Oh my, worse the second time! Hoping to reduce time in purgatory ?
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Post by Chu Chu on Oct 23, 2016 18:33:08 GMT -5
Losing to a Bucknell-Georgetown-Lafayette in the same year of a body bag loss to a Navy, Syracuse, BC is not the fantasy that HC diehards had bought into when the FBS twists to future schedules were initially introduced by ADNP. That alternative future is not as attractive as it seemed initially. H.C. diehards are finally grasping the depths to which its brand has actually reached. Methinks people are gradually coming to the realization that competing with the top teams in the PL is already a reach for H.C.. The lowly Patriot League ! I would remind us all that the last time we played a Div 1 FBS school, it was without scholarships - and we won! September 7, 2002, Michie Stadium, Holy Cross 30 - Army 21Just sayin'
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Post by joe on Oct 23, 2016 19:14:02 GMT -5
You mean Army in 2002, the season Army went 1-11?
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Post by joe on Oct 23, 2016 20:44:30 GMT -5
Great W nonetheless. But as I recall not much fanfare outside of the diehards at the time, same when hockey beat Minnesota.
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