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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 11, 2021 15:18:59 GMT -5
Her father changed the family's last name from Heard to Avant-garde. So Vince gets something of a pass as she is apparently not of Cajun ancestry. She is the 14 year old winner of the National Spelling Bee. She wants to play basketball for Harvard, of all places. She currently holds three Guinness Book of Records' records for basketball dribbling: most basketballs dribbled simultaneously, the most basketball bounces, and the most bounce juggles in one minute. No indication if she has an outside shot. She has already done a commercial with Mr. Curry, so NLI $$$ may be big. www.cnn.com/2021/07/08/us/spelling-bee-winner-zaila-avant-garde/index.html^^^ includes video clips of her with a basketball And to be fair to Vince, her planned-for majors are neuroscience, or molecular biology (gene editing) that Holy Cross doesn't currently offer. |
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jul 11, 2021 15:26:47 GMT -5
1.What an amazing girl.
2. Shouldn't HC have neuroscience and molecular biology majors?
3. Harvard Shmarvard, let's recruit her anyway.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 11, 2021 16:58:25 GMT -5
If HC can't shine in the sciences it narrows the areas it excels in that are in high demand in a changing world even further. It's a big expense to add a school of engineering but less so to expand course offerings in a robust existing major like Biology. It might take adding or retrofitting existing lab space and equipment but Holy Cross has added tens of thousands of indoor square footage in recent years and it is up to Vince and TPTB to make sure all new and existing space is being optimally used to serve the college and keep it current and competitive.
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Post by mm67 on Jul 15, 2021 6:19:53 GMT -5
If HC can't shine in the sciences it narrows the areas it excels in that are in high demand in a changing world even further. It's a big expense to add a school of engineering but less so to expand course offerings in a robust existing major like Biology. It might take adding or retrofitting existing lab space and equipment but Holy Cross has added tens of thousands of indoor square footage in recent years and it is up to Vince and TPTB to make sure all new and existing space is being optimally used to serve the college and keep it current and competitive. If HC has funds for athletics? HC should offer separate programs in Engineering & Computer Sciences in the context of the liberal arts - Engineering/LiberalArts, Computer Science Liberal Arts Majors all in a newly built high tech building.A separate Engineering Program for select top notch students. Or, better yet, retrofit an older building for engineering such as Beaven which along with the science & math buildings would create a Science & Technology Row. if done properly, these steps would improve the academic profile of HC as would a separate Computer Science Program. It would add a lot to HC's academic mission. Mass. offers many fine resources to help develop these programs. I realize WPI is in the area but the demand in our growing high tech world for these kinds of programs has grown exponentially. Do it right. Let's win! |
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 15, 2021 7:44:51 GMT -5
If HC can't shine in the sciences it narrows the areas it excels in that are in high demand in a changing world even further. It's a big expense to add a school of engineering but less so to expand course offerings in a robust existing major like Biology. It might take adding or retrofitting existing lab space and equipment but Holy Cross has added tens of thousands of indoor square footage in recent years and it is up to Vince and TPTB to make sure all new and existing space is being optimally used to serve the college and keep it current and competitive. If HC has funds for athletics? HC should offer separate programs in Engineering & Computer Sciences in the context of the liberal arts - Engineering/LiberalArts, Computer Science Liberal Arts Majors all in a newly built high tech building.A separate Engineering Program for select top notch students. Or, better yet, retrofit an older building for engineering such as Beaven which along with the science & math buildings would create a Science & Technology Row. if done properly, these steps would improve the academic profile of HC as would a separate Computer Science Program. It would add a lot to HC's academic mission. Mass. offers many fine resources to help develop these programs. I realize WPI is in the area but the demand in our growing high tech world for these kinds of programs has grown exponentially. Do it right. Let's win! You saw me and raised me in fantasy poker. I don't know where a new building could be squeezed in gracefully except on the HoJo lot. The main campus has an Edifice Complex now. |
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Post by mm67 on Jul 15, 2021 9:12:36 GMT -5
If HC has funds for athletics? HC should offer separate programs in Engineering & Computer Sciences in the context of the liberal arts - Engineering/LiberalArts, Computer Science Liberal Arts Majors all in a newly built high tech building.A separate Engineering Program for select top notch students. Or, better yet, retrofit an older building for engineering such as Beaven which along with the science & math buildings would create a Science & Technology Row. if done properly, these steps would improve the academic profile of HC as would a separate Computer Science Program. It would add a lot to HC's academic mission. Mass. offers many fine resources to help develop these programs. I realize WPI is in the area but the demand in our growing high tech world for these kinds of programs has grown exponentially. Do it right. Let's win! You saw me and raised me in fantasy poker. I don't know where a new building could be squeezed in gracefully except on the HoJo lot. The main campus has an Edifice Complex now. Retro-fit Beaven? The location near the other science & Math buildings makes some sense. Totally support your concern for growing the school academically within the context of the liberal arts. HC has many iterations of courses in the classics, philosophy, theology, a contemplative building, all to the good. Now it is time to reignite & grow high level science & technology studies for the modern world. The Science Complex is wonderful but more needs to be done to bring HC into the modern world and return the school back to forefront of higher education. A rigorous Engineering?Liberal Arts Program on campus with its own dedicated top of the line facilities would attract top notch students and add to the academic culture at HC. All it takes is vision and a willingness to grow plus money. No doubt creative ways to raise funds (many millions) for this effort should be readily available. (Tech corps, Institutions of various kinds) |
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Post by alum on Jul 15, 2021 9:28:42 GMT -5
1.What an amazing girl. 2. Shouldn't HC have neuroscience and molecular biology majors? 3. Harvard Shmarvard, let's recruit her anyway. 1. An amazing girl, indeed. 2. HC offers an interdisciplinary minor in neuroscience. As I understand it, neuroscience is a mix of psych and hard sciences. Perhaps it should be a major by itself because there does seem to be interest in it among young people right now. Maybe because it is science but not as technical as chemistry, physics or biology. I think that smaller schools don't have separate majors for the different types of biology. When I think about what HC should offer, I look at other small liberal arts colleges to see what they do. I just checked Amherst and Williams. Both only offer Biology--they don't break it down. Williams calls Neuroscience a concentration and Amherst calls it a program major. They both appear to be interdisciplinary majors. HC offers a computer science major within the Department of Mathematics and Computer Science. I would think they could break it out into its own department to show they are taking it seriously (This analysis from someone without much science background.) |
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 15, 2021 11:03:36 GMT -5
As to Beaven, the Psychology, Sociology, and Anthropology departments were moved there when Loyola became a dorm. It was renovated and connected to the integrated science complex when the complex was built 10+ years ago, so there is already a Science & Technology Row on campus.
To say add an engineering program is a bit simplistic. What type? Mechanical, Chemical, Electrical, Civil, Environmental, Biomedical ... that's a lot of courses to support. There's a core set of courses to all of them but diverge substantially in curriculum after a year or two. And let's say you add 3 or 4 of the above to the program, how many kids out of 750 per year to you expect to be taking each of those disciplines? That's a lot of add for let's say 5 - 6 kids per engineering discipline each year.
I've said it before but I'll repeat, bring back a real viable 3-2 program with WPI. The current one with Columbia seems far less utilized than 30 - 40 years ago. And I'm not sure how feasible this is, but I'd say if there's a way they could develop a program that got you to a BA in math or science from HC and a masters from WPI that is done in 5 years, they'd be much more likely to succeed than building their own engineering program.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 15, 2021 18:18:44 GMT -5
As to Beaven, the Psychology, Sociology, and Anthropology departments were moved there when Loyola became a dorm. It was renovated and connected to the integrated science complex when the complex was built 10+ years ago, so there is already a Science & Technology Row on campus. To say add an engineering program is a bit simplistic. What type? Mechanical, Chemical, Electrical, Civil, Environmental, Biomedical ... that's a lot of courses to support. There's a core set of courses to all of them but diverge substantially in curriculum after a year or two. And let's say you add 3 or 4 of the above to the program, how many kids out of 750 per year to you expect to be taking each of those disciplines? That's a lot of add for let's say 5 - 6 kids per engineering discipline each year. I've said it before but I'll repeat, bring back a real viable 3-2 program with WPI. The current one with Columbia seems far less utilized than 30 - 40 years ago. And I'm not sure how feasible this is, but I'd say if there's a way they could develop a program that got you to a BA in math or science from HC and a masters from WPI that is done in 5 years, they'd be much more likely to succeed than building their own engineering program. Excellent idea. Hopefully it would attract the next Michael Vicens to play basketball, too. |
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Post by mm67 on Jul 16, 2021 1:32:02 GMT -5
STEM Row? Obviously social sciences, sociology(Social Studies hs) are separate fields of study, not part of STEM.
In my thinking the slant would have been toward the high tech in engineering for instance, computer engineering, bio-medical, possibly environmental.
The devil is always in the details. Great points were made about the realities of an engineering program.No doubt engineering might be too monumental an undertaking. The WPI 5 year option may be a good path for the school to pursue.
The suggestions were merely to point out the need for HC to continue to find innovative ways to grow to meet the changing needs of our high tech 21st c.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 17, 2021 9:56:41 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Jul 17, 2021 14:57:06 GMT -5
 Obviously, she is brilliant. She's good with basketballs. Would she be able to get past the stringent requirements of Admissions?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 17, 2021 15:39:21 GMT -5
Obviously, she is brilliant. She's good with basketballs. Would she be able to get past the stringent requirements of Admissions? Ann has gone, so maybe. |
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Obviously, she is brilliant. She's good with basketballs. Would she be able to get past the stringent requirements of Admissions?