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Post by trimster on Jul 22, 2021 16:54:43 GMT -5
ESPN is reporting a rumor about OU and Texas asking for consideration for SEC membership.
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Post by trimster on Jul 22, 2021 17:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jul 22, 2021 17:23:01 GMT -5
The increase in revenues would seem to have to be obscene for the likes of Vanderbilt, the Mississippis and South Carolina to go along with this, not to mention A&M, which as the AD states, like that they've got something that U Texas doesn't.
I don't think anyone does anything until they resolve the expansion of the football playoffs- football is king.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 22, 2021 18:29:08 GMT -5
Ask yourself, from a fan’s standpoint, will this new configuration be better than things were years ago with the Southwest Conference, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC— long standing natural rivalries, some drivable conference games??
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 22, 2021 19:24:45 GMT -5
Why would A&M approve this?
They wouldn't. Just like South Carolina wouldn't sign off on Clemson going into the SEC.
I actually predicted a few years back that OU and UT will end up in the BiG. Lets see...
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2021 19:29:15 GMT -5
Everybody has a price, especially on the world of big time football
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Post by timholycross on Jul 22, 2021 19:30:37 GMT -5
Why would A&M approve this? They wouldn't. Just like South Carolina wouldn't sign off on Clemson going into the SEC. I actually predicted a few years back that OU and UT will end up in the BiG. Lets see... Doesn't matter if A&M disapproves w/o getting 3 others to go along w/them. 75% approval is needed, which is 11 unless there is some strange rounding off that makes it 10.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 23, 2021 10:09:27 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 23, 2021 10:12:49 GMT -5
Showing my age - make that 'replenish the 'Big 12' above
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Post by Ray on Jul 23, 2021 10:46:50 GMT -5
Big 12 may die here... Texas and OU are out, and now Kansas is trying to find a landing spot in the B1G.
This is going to get crazy.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 23, 2021 10:58:02 GMT -5
With the move to professionalism, these coming conference moves will make for a powerful 1-2 punch in the effort to ruin college sports
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jul 23, 2021 10:58:11 GMT -5
No one knows how all this will play out, but I wonder if we might end up with two college sports divisions, the PCAA (ProfessionalCollege Athletic Association) and the ACAA (Amateur College Athletic Association). Big time college sports is now professional sports
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 23, 2021 18:55:13 GMT -5
Why would A&M approve this? They wouldn't. Just like South Carolina wouldn't sign off on Clemson going into the SEC. I actually predicted a few years back that OU and UT will end up in the BiG. Lets see... Doesn't matter if A&M disapproves w/o getting 3 others to go along w/them. 75% approval is needed, which is 11 unless there is some strange rounding off that makes it 10. You're absolutely right. SEC insiders are projecting a 13 YES votes and 1 NO vote to admit UT and OU. Effectively, this is happening unless TPTB in Austin find a reason to reverse course.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 26, 2021 11:54:14 GMT -5
WSJ reporting that the 2 schools will remain in the Big 12 until the current media rights deal expires in 2025. Unlikely they will be allowed to stay as lame ducks for several more years, per the Journal.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 26, 2021 11:57:59 GMT -5
Wonder if there will be any grandstanding attorney generals in one of the "losing" states (Kansas, Iowa, WV; not Oklahoma nor Texas, I'm sure) that try a lawsuit same as Sen. Blumenthal did when he was AG for the state of CT (sued BC and, perhaps, others; didn't get far).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 26, 2021 20:56:43 GMT -5
Wonder if there will be any grandstanding attorney generals in one of the "losing" states (Kansas, Iowa, WV; not Oklahoma nor Texas, I'm sure) that try a lawsuit same as Sen. Blumenthal did when he was AG for the state of CT (sued BC and, perhaps, others; didn't get far). There will be legal action taken in just about all of those states, outside of maybe West Virginia. WVU is probably just going to have to ride it out and end up wherever they end up, whether it be the "post-2025 Big XII", AAC or are lucky enough to get ACC invite by then. Oklahoma will be ugly as there will be pressure from the OK State side to try and block this from happening. When the ACC first expanded in 2005, Syracuse was originally supposed to be part of it but Virginia legislators forced the hand of the University of Virginia to not allow the expansion then if it didn't include Virginia Tech.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -5
SEC expansion and realignment are all about greed By Jeff Schultz July 25, 2021 at 8:53 PM EDT SEC expansion and realignment are all about greed There is a scene in the movie, “Wall Street,” when Gordon Gekko endeavors to humiliate the board of directors of Teldar Paper and ingratiate himself to the company’s stockholders, exclaiming: “I am not a destroyer of companies. I am a liberator of them. The point is, ladies and gentlemen, that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of its forms, greed for life, for money, for love, knowledge, has marked the upward surge in mankind, and greed, you mark my words, will not only save Teldar Paper, but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA.” It was sort of like Otter’s speech in “Animal House,” when he told the Faber College fraternity board, “I will not let you bad mouth the United States of America,” if only Otter was a billionaire and dressed in a $3,000 suit. The reason I bring this up now is what’s happening in college football.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 27, 2021 8:06:11 GMT -5
I'm sure everyone out there realizes that over time, the availability of "guarantee games" in college football will shrink, or perhaps disappear. This type of move, while perhaps inevitable, has quite a number of ramifications; down to our level.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2021 10:18:58 GMT -5
I'm sure everyone out there realizes that over time, the availability of "guarantee games" in college football will shrink, or perhaps disappear. This type of move, while perhaps inevitable, has quite a number of ramifications; down to our level. Glad we got our Navy and Syracuse games in when we did. Something tells me UMass and UConn will have room to schedule guarantee games for a while. Although we might want to get a good percentage of the money from them in advance.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 28, 2021 13:39:19 GMT -5
I'm sure everyone out there realizes that over time, the availability of "guarantee games" in college football will shrink, or perhaps disappear. This type of move, while perhaps inevitable, has quite a number of ramifications; down to our level. I don't think that will be the case. These big schools aren't going to want to give up having 7-8 home games/year.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 28, 2021 13:39:56 GMT -5
I'm sure everyone out there realizes that over time, the availability of "guarantee games" in college football will shrink, or perhaps disappear. This type of move, while perhaps inevitable, has quite a number of ramifications; down to our level. Glad we got our Navy and Syracuse games in when we did. Something tells me UMass and UConn will have room to schedule guarantee games for a while. Although we might want to get a good percentage of the money from them in advance. Believe it or not UMASS and UCONN, given the circumstances, have done a fairly decent job filling out schedules for the next 4-5 years.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 28, 2021 15:14:59 GMT -5
Maybe if the SEC gets big enough it can just break away from the NCAA........
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Post by timholycross on Jul 28, 2021 17:52:32 GMT -5
Maybe if the SEC gets big enough it can just break away from the NCAA........ I've thought of that happening. Or maybe football for the SEC and 2 or 3 other conferences separates from the NCAA and the rest of the sports remain.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 28, 2021 20:34:08 GMT -5
Maybe if the SEC gets big enough it can just break away from the NCAA........ I've thought of that happening. Or maybe football for the SEC and 2 or 3 other conferences separates from the NCAA and the rest of the sports remain. Something like this will definitely happen. Probably 15-20 years away. Who knows whats in store? Paid players? Elimination of eligibility limits (i.e. play 6-7 years instead of 4)? Elimination of any academic requirements to play? Allowing non-students to play (shades of the 19th cebtury Ivy teams)?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 28, 2021 21:11:10 GMT -5
Wonder if there will be any grandstanding attorney generals in one of the "losing" states (Kansas, Iowa, WV; not Oklahoma nor Texas, I'm sure) that try a lawsuit same as Sen. Blumenthal did when he was AG for the state of CT (sued BC and, perhaps, others; didn't get far). There will be legal action taken in just about all of those states, outside of maybe West Virginia. WVU is probably just going to have to ride it out and end up wherever they end up, whether it be the "post-2025 Big XII", AAC or are lucky enough to get ACC invite by then. Oklahoma will be ugly as there will be pressure from the OK State side to try and block this from happening. When the ACC first expanded in 2005, Syracuse was originally supposed to be part of it but Virginia legislators forced the hand of the University of Virginia to not allow the expansion then if it didn't include Virginia Tech. The legal action is going to come from the Big 12 against ESPN it looks like www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/big-12-commissioner-alleges-espn-conspired-with-sec-american-to-lure-teams-from-conference/
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