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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2021 17:47:17 GMT -5
I watched track & field this morning. The women 800 m had the Gold & Silver winners under the age of 20. USA wins Gold & Bronze.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 3, 2021 17:49:06 GMT -5
Cute comment/sarcasm about the relative numbers of viewers vs posters. But, I have to disagree. When the ratings come out, it will be poorly watched for some sports, but others will have the usual fanatics following them.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 3, 2021 20:07:05 GMT -5
Cute comment/sarcasm about the relative numbers of viewers vs posters. But, I have to disagree. When the ratings come out, it will be poorly watched for some sports, but others will have the usual fanatics following them. You have the NBC Olympics vs the real ones...NBC is showing stuff on 18 hour delays in some cases like the men's basketball game wasn't shown live on USA TV even though it started at 12:40am eastern.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 3, 2021 21:12:32 GMT -5
There's been a fair amount of criticism and questioning of Simone Biles here. Has anyone criticized Novak Djokovic? I'm not scrolling through every post to see but I can't recall any criticism. I’ll check the Serbian sports boards and get right back to you🙂.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 3, 2021 21:24:24 GMT -5
I watched track & field this morning. The women 800 m had the Gold & Silver winners under the age of 20. USA wins Gold & Bronze. Some great female 800 runners have been very young. I remember Mary Decker was 14 or 15 back in ‘72 and was one of our best but was too young to compete in Munich. She actually was our best 800 runner at age 15 (just looked it up).
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 3, 2021 21:43:49 GMT -5
Sydney McLaughlin set a world record in winning the 400 Meter Hurdles. Dalilah Muhummad completed the Exacta for the US in taking the silver
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 4, 2021 7:58:58 GMT -5
I'm not disappointed about the bronze versus many potential golds. If she competes and reps the USA, I think anyone can be proud of the effort and grace. I'm at least skeptical that all of the pressure and twisties and all of that came up after she was in Tokyo. She had been abused, unfortunately, and tragically. She had been under tremendous pressure and grueling training schedules and physical stress and mental strife. But she competed and won profited gained fame and it seemed to not be an issue. What changed after she got to Japan? It's at least plausible that once she was there, she was over it, didn't have the same motivation, didn't need the same sacrifices and risk, so just bailed. Even if you're saying I have no comprehension to fault the reason, I am nitpicking the timing at least as fishy. I just don't get your doubt about the timing. She decides not retire, puts in five more years of grueling training, only to suddenly lose motivation in the middle of the competition? What possible unspoken reason could she have for doing that? It seems like you're nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking. I am asking you, or generally for the reasons. They sound more like excuses. If she was so distracted, distraught, endangered, why go through all the training and sweat and sacrifice, the delays, the travel, the isolation, and then give up the night before?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 4, 2021 8:17:17 GMT -5
Maybe all the gold medals she was going to win wouldn’t get through the Tokyo metal detectors on the way home?
Can’t we give people the benefit of the doubt? No one ever knows what’s going on inside another’s head.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 4, 2021 8:33:19 GMT -5
Only the celebration of somebody bailing at the last minute on their teammate and their craft, as courageous and some of these other superlatives, have elicited the critical thoughts from me to balance out the situation. If she just didn't go in the first place, wasn't calling herself the GOAT, bowed out, had another deserving teammate attend in her place, and we all moved along, I probably wouldn't have even noticed after the fact.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 4, 2021 8:39:57 GMT -5
OK, you're playing "Devil's Advocate." Kind of.
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Post by clmetsfan on Aug 4, 2021 8:55:13 GMT -5
I just don't get your doubt about the timing. She decides not retire, puts in five more years of grueling training, only to suddenly lose motivation in the middle of the competition? What possible unspoken reason could she have for doing that? It seems like you're nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking. I am asking you, or generally for the reasons. They sound more like excuses. If she was so distracted, distraught, endangered, why go through all the training and sweat and sacrifice, the delays, the travel, the isolation, and then give up the night before? Ok, so you are just nitpicking for the sake of nitpicking. Glad we cleared that up. If you can't take her at her word, and choose to ignore all the commentary from other gymnasts who acknowledge that what she's going through is a very real condition, and decide to dismiss a mental health crisis that a stranger is experiencing as "excuses," then I don't think this discussion is worth having anymore. Some people just like being contrarians.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 4, 2021 9:08:15 GMT -5
After winning gold and setting a new world record, 400M hurdle champion Sydney McLauglin had this to say:
"I'm absolutely delighted," McLauglin, 21, told reporters after her competition. "What a great race. I'm just grateful to be out here celebrating that extraordinary race and representing my country."
And the runner up (also US):
She's definitely a strong competitor," Muhammad said of McLaughlin, whom she hugged after they crossed the finish line, "but we're teammates first."
Muhammad also beat the previous world record with her silver-medal performance, even as she ended up 0.12 seconds behind.
"No mixed emotions here today," she said. "There's always things that you want to do better, just as an athlete, as a competitor. There are small little check-ups that I felt I could have done better in that race, but it's not me beating myself up because it didn't happen to be an Olympic gold performance."
Thought their performances and post-race comments were excellent.
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Post by deep Purple on Aug 4, 2021 9:16:25 GMT -5
Looks like ratings are down 48% from 2016 and 58% from 2012.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 4, 2021 9:41:26 GMT -5
As always the decathlon, in my opinion, is one of the most fascinating competitions. That an athlete could be so good to excellent at so many disciplines is amazing. Case in point is the current leader and likely winner Damian Warner of Canada, He ran a 10.12 100 Meters and lonmg jumped 8.24 meters which would have been good for Bronze in the regular competition. After Day One (100 Meters, Long Jump, Shot Put, High Jump, 400 Meters) here are the top 7
4,722 Warner of Canada 4,641 Moloney of Australia--only 21 YO 4,528 LePage of Canada 4,369 Bastien of USA-- I think he will drop as he is not a strong discus thrower 4,340 Mayer of France-former world record holder I think 4,338 Scantling of USA 4,332 Ziemek of USA
Upcoming: 110 Meter Hurdles, Discus, Pole Vault (remember when Dan O'Brien "no heighted"?) , Javelin, 1500 Meters
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Post by mm67 on Aug 4, 2021 10:08:26 GMT -5
In an interview with Mike Tirico last night Simone cleared up any misconceptions which have been expressed on this board. Watch the Interview.
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Post by alum on Aug 4, 2021 11:01:41 GMT -5
As always the decathlon, in my opinion, is one of the most fascinating competitions. That an athlete could be so good to excellent at so many disciplines is amazing. Case in point is the current leader and likely winner Damian Warner of Canada, He ran a 10.12 100 Meters and lonmg jumped 8.24 meters which would have been good for Bronze in the regular competition. After Day One (100 Meters, Long Jump, Shot Put, High Jump, 400 Meters) here are the top 7 4,722 Warner of Canada 4,641 Moloney of Australia--only 21 YO 4,528 LePage of Canada 4,369 Bastien of USA-- I think he will drop as he is not a strong discus thrower 4,340 Mayer of France-former world record holder I think 4,338 Scantling of USA 4,332 Ziemek of USA Upcoming: 110 Meter Hurdles, Discus, Pole Vault (remember when Dan O'Brien "no heighted"?) , Javelin, 1500 Meters For anyone who wants to watch, decathalon is live starting at 8 PM (ET) tonight (Wednesday). You can watch it all on one of the streaming options available through NBC. Here is the timetable worldathletics.org/competitions/olympic-games/the-xxxii-olympic-games-athletics-7132391/timetableThere are heats in the 4 x 100 relays for both men and women as well. Given the American men's tendency to screw up the handoffs at major meets (9 times since 1995 at Olympics and World Championships), it is ought to be nerve wracking. EDIT: The Washington Post posted an article on the US history of relay mishaps www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2021/08/04/relay-baton-handoff-usa-olympics/?itid=hp-top-table-main
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 4, 2021 16:14:25 GMT -5
The Twisties strike me as a neurological ailment. I had vertigo once and it was disabling while it lasted. I didn't listen to the interview but I'm going to guess that she would have powered through any mental health issues if she didn't have this physical health condition which could have potentially caused paralysis if she fell the wrong way in the midst of her death defying routines. The anxiety about that possibility could certainly aggravate any underlying mental health issues. I wish for her sake the explanation had centered on the neurological and not the psychological. I think she is a neat kid and am looking forward to following her future endeavors.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 4, 2021 19:28:38 GMT -5
The Gold Over America Tour will take place starting next month. In New England, you will be able to see the Exhibition team in Hartford, Bridgeport and Boston. www.goldoveramericatour.com/goat
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 4, 2021 19:39:32 GMT -5
As always the decathlon, in my opinion, is one of the most fascinating competitions. That an athlete could be so good to excellent at so many disciplines is amazing. Case in point is the current leader and likely winner Damian Warner of Canada, He ran a 10.12 100 Meters and lonmg jumped 8.24 meters which would have been good for Bronze in the regular competition. After Day One (100 Meters, Long Jump, Shot Put, High Jump, 400 Meters) here are the top 7 4,722 Warner of Canada 4,641 Moloney of Australia--only 21 YO 4,528 LePage of Canada 4,369 Bastien of USA-- I think he will drop as he is not a strong discus thrower 4,340 Mayer of France-former world record holder I think 4,338 Scantling of USA 4,332 Ziemek of USA Upcoming: 110 Meter Hurdles, Discus, Pole Vault (remember when Dan O'Brien "no heighted"?) , Javelin, 1500 Meters Talk about no heighted. I was shooting a D-3 National Championship and saw a kid just get the lowest height possible to get the points. (His coach said it was the first time the kid ever pole vaulted) I think he finished third in the nation. There is no excuse for O'Brien to no height at the international level.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 4, 2021 19:41:50 GMT -5
The Gold Over America Tour will take place starting next month. In New England, you will be able to see the Exhibition team in Hartford, Bridgeport and Boston. www.goldoveramericatour.com/goatIt is interesting they are going to Bridgeport since it is so close to Hartford and a much smaller facility than Boston, Hartford, and Brookyln.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 5, 2021 0:03:16 GMT -5
Australia leads USA men's basketball 45-42 in period 2. Aussies 7-15 on threes so far vs 2-13 for USA
Now in 3rd period and USA leads 59-50, outscoring Aussies 18-5 in last stretch
USA lead 93-70 with 2 minutes left and will advance to the Gold Medal game
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 5, 2021 0:49:02 GMT -5
After 8 events in the decathlon
7,490 Warner of Canada 7,269 Moloney of Australia 7,175 LePage of Canada 7,129 Mayer of France
7,026 Scantling of USA 7,000 Ziemek of USA 6,760 Bastien of USA
Warner looks to be tough to beat although the two remaining events are not his best--Javelin and 1500 meters may get him 800 points each if he matches his personal best. Mayer's PB in Javelin is 7 meters farther than Warner's with each meter worth 15 or 16 points. Mayer's 1500 meter PB is 6 seconds faster than Warner's with each second worth 6 points. Moloney appears to be out of it, despite being in second place as he is weak in the Javelin and very weak in the 1500 (relative to other decathletes). I don't know LePage's personal bests
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Aug 5, 2021 5:40:46 GMT -5
After 8 events in the decathlon 7,490 Warner of Canada 7,269 Moloney of Australia 7,175 LePage of Canada 7,129 Mayer of France 7,026 Scantling of USA 7,000 Ziemek of USA 6,760 Bastien of USA Warner looks to be tough to beat although the two remaining events are not his best--Javelin and 1500 meters may get him 800 points each if he matches his personal best. Mayer's PB in Javelin is 7 meters farther than Warner's with each meter worth 15 or 16 points. Mayer's 1500 meter PB is 6 seconds faster than Warner's with each second worth 6 points. Moloney appears to be out of it, despite being in second place as he is weak in the Javelin and very weak in the 1500 (relative to other decathletes). I don't know LePage's personal bests Decathlon is the "ultimate" Olympic sport. Impressed that you know so much about the leaders.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 5, 2021 5:54:26 GMT -5
Must be a lull in the horse racing season. Remember the "old days" when the Olympic decathlon champ was invariably an American who then found himself on the front of the Wheaties cereal box?
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Aug 5, 2021 6:05:45 GMT -5
1968 (my grad year) Bill Toomey won the Olympic decathlon - Worcester Academy grad. Don't know if he made the Wheaties box. Well documented association between decathlon and horse racing.
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