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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 13, 2021 18:53:11 GMT -5
Not saying play the game, just don't penalize with a loss vaccinated teams, similar to what the NFL is talking about I've been thinking about this. I guess you could say the team that is vaccinated "did the right thing," so if they nevertheless have to forfeit due to COVID it would be unfair. But then you get into a situation where the conferences or leagues have to be the arbiter of this. How many players were vaccinated? Was a vaccinated player the one who caused the outbreak? Did it spread to non-vaccinated players? Was it introduced while the team was at study hall, or in an isolated dorm? Did half the team go to South Beach and party it up at LIV all night long and catch COVID from fan girls? Probably too many variables.
So, the conference says whether you did the right things and just got unlucky, or were totally irresponsible/risk-taking in your behavior, if you're unwell to play due to COVID, then you must forfeit. Want to avoid a forfeit? Avoid COVID. However that can be done.
Because the virus, in spite of its mutation, still doesn't possess the ability to talk, no league could ever definitively obtain these answers. |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 13, 2021 20:50:57 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this. I guess you could say the team that is vaccinated "did the right thing," so if they nevertheless have to forfeit due to COVID it would be unfair. But then you get into a situation where the conferences or leagues have to be the arbiter of this. How many players were vaccinated? Was a vaccinated player the one who caused the outbreak? Did it spread to non-vaccinated players? Was it introduced while the team was at study hall, or in an isolated dorm? Did half the team go to South Beach and party it up at LIV all night long and catch COVID from fan girls? Probably too many variables.
So, the conference says whether you did the right things and just got unlucky, or were totally irresponsible/risk-taking in your behavior, if you're unwell to play due to COVID, then you must forfeit. Want to avoid a forfeit? Avoid COVID. However that can be done.
Because the virus, in spite of its mutation, still doesn't possess the ability to talk, no league could ever definitively obtain these answers. Using technology designed to capture sounds from black holes in space, Scientists have captured the first audio of the virus. It's laughing it's butt off. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 14, 2021 2:44:04 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on Aug 14, 2021 6:09:59 GMT -5
I wonder how many members of the military we will lose if the Secy mandates vaccinations for all Depends a lot on the time frame. I suppose you might lose future enlistments. People who were vaccinated and really didn't want to be, might not re-enlist when the time comes. I don't know if officers have the ability to resign their commission on the spot (I kind of doubt it), but I suspect the short term answer to this will be zero. There will be no letting the door hit you as you receive your separation papers. More likely if someone doesn't want the shot the doctor will tell that person their objection is duly noted as he sticks them with the needle |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2021 9:28:55 GMT -5
I think enlistments will decline as there is a certain percentage of the population that is strongly opposed to the shot. Some already in the service may refuse the shot and risk being discharged--if that projects to be a large number the DOD may have to rethink the matter.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 14, 2021 15:42:15 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2021 19:00:13 GMT -5
I’ll stand by my prediction
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Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 14, 2021 21:06:40 GMT -5
Upon being informed that the shot is mandatory.....The reply will be the following as noted by Kevin Bacon
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 14, 2021 21:11:10 GMT -5
I think enlistments will decline as there is a certain percentage of the population that is strongly opposed to the shot. Some already in the service may refuse the shot and risk being discharged--if that projects to be a large number the DOD may have to rethink the matter. Might we really worry about having the fifth biggest army in the world? Is it really that important? I don't think so |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2021 21:15:11 GMT -5
We’ll have to disagree on this one. The world has many evil regimes and it falls to the USA to be ready, willing, and able to confront them when that becomes necessary.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 14, 2021 21:23:55 GMT -5
We’ll have to disagree on this one. The world has many evil regimes and it falls to the USA to be ready, willing, and able to confront them when that becomes necessary. USA has 1.4 million active soldiers which is third behind China and India while only being slightly ahead of North Korea and Russia. There is no way that 400k soldiers are going to get kicked out of the service which would be a 28 percent drop to get below Russia. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 16, 2021 19:26:54 GMT -5
CAA football cancellation policy
RICHMOND, Va. – CAA Football announced a new policy relating to games that are unable to be played due to COVID-related protocols during the 2021 season.
The policy states that any game that cannot be played due to CoVID-related circumstances would be considered a forfeit by the cancelling team. The cancelling team would receive a loss in the conference standings and the opposing team would be awarded a victory. The overall record of both teams would not change since NCAA bylaws consider such games a "no contest".
The new policy does provide a 24-hour window of opportunity for making up the game, but if it cannot be conducted the next day, it would be considered a forfeit. If both teams are unable to play due to COVID-related circumstances, the game would be declared a "no contest" and would not be part of the record of either team.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 16, 2021 20:05:00 GMT -5
I prefer the NCAA policy over the CAA policy (four initials trumps three initials) because Covid is an illness for crying out loud. If one school has breakthrough cases and the other doesn't is the first school less responsible than the second?
Count the games decided on the field, not at the league meetings.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 17, 2021 16:59:02 GMT -5
Big 12 Policy
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 19, 2021 13:21:37 GMT -5
Pac-12 also This is playing out in an interesting way here in the Pacific Northwest. The head coach at Washington State is the only coach in the PAC-12 who has not gotten immunized against COVID-19, and his percentage of players who have been immunized is the lowest in the league. This would seem to place them at high risk of a forfeited game. Now, Jay Inslee, the Governor of Washington, has just announced a requirement that all school employees at all levels, public and private, must be immunized or lose their employment. |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 19, 2021 15:00:44 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see if a Governor's proclamation, perhaps under emergency powers, issued after the signing of a coaching contract would cause the coach to lose his pay, or players to lose their scholarship if they are banned from coaching or playing if not vaccinated.
I always thought it would be better for State University employees to work for the University and participate in TIAA CREF and Social Security like other College and University employees and not be State employees participating in the State Pension System. That was to make public higher education more affordable and accessible and reduce unfunded pension liabilities but in this case it could have distanced the football coach from the Governor's edict.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 19, 2021 21:05:08 GMT -5
Maybe Secretary Austin is in discussion with West Point and Annapolis. I think he's busy elsewhere. |
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