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Post by hcpride on Aug 16, 2021 10:57:34 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow-up on this--I was doing a search on Ivy participation in NCAA championship events since 1970 but this list proved the point as well as any. The Yale list isn't the "country club" sports, it's the "Hamptons" sports: rowing, sailing, squash, fencing...sports with little or no participation outside of mostly Northeastern, high income communities. How many schools have a squash team to begin with? By contrast, the Ivies have next to no post-season record since 1970 in sports such as baseball, soccer, track, volleyball, swimming, even tennis or golf. By contrast, Stanford is good at all of these. Scholarships cloud the larger issue. If the Ivy League attracted the best track coaches, the best tennis coaches, etc., recruits would come. If the Ivy league had some of the best facilities in the world for Olympic hopefuls, people would come. But because they don't, and the entry into those sports is not through them, there's too many good places to go to be successful. That small article was just one season from just one Ivy. Beyond that, you forgot to mention lax from the article (Yale finished second and first nationally the last two years it played - 2018 and 2019) Fun fact, Yale’s best figure skater that season was Nathan Chen (bronze medal, 2018 Olympics) And yes, HYP participates in many varsity sports (Harvard wrestles and plays water polo, for example) that many other schools do not. And yes, many Ivy sports are northeastern sports🤔. Ivies and this year’s Olympics: ivyleague.com/news/2021/7/20/72-ivies-bound-for-2020-summer-olympics-in-tokyo.aspx |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 16, 2021 13:56:26 GMT -5
Former Olympic swimmer Jenny Thompson is a good example of choosing Stanford to receive a full scholarship, a top academic education and also swim at the top level of the NCAA with support and academic breaks to participate in national and international amateur and Olympic events. She is now a physician so it all worked out well.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 16, 2021 16:06:12 GMT -5
Former Olympic swimmer Jenny Thompson is a good example of choosing Stanford to receive a full scholarship, a top academic education and also swim at the top level of the NCAA with support and academic breaks to participate in national and international amateur and Olympic events. She is now a physician so it all worked out well. One of the coolest things I saw on their campus was the pool complex. This northeasterner was surprised to see that the competition swimming and diving pools are outdoors. And the (outdoor) stands seat about 2,000. Goes without saying that they've got awesome weather out there in Palo Alto. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 17, 2021 14:41:37 GMT -5
Thanks for the follow-up on this--I was doing a search on Ivy participation in NCAA championship events since 1970 but this list proved the point as well as any. The Yale list isn't the "country club" sports, it's the "Hamptons" sports: rowing, sailing, squash, fencing...sports with little or no participation outside of mostly Northeastern, high income communities. How many schools have a squash team to begin with? By contrast, the Ivies have next to no post-season record since 1970 in sports such as baseball, soccer, track, volleyball, swimming, even tennis or golf. By contrast, Stanford is good at all of these. Scholarships cloud the larger issue. If the Ivy League attracted the best track coaches, the best tennis coaches, etc., recruits would come. If the Ivy league had some of the best facilities in the world for Olympic hopefuls, people would come. But because they don't, and the entry into those sports is not through them, there's too many good places to go to be successful. Well, Stanford is a power five school so much different. Stanford, Cal and UC-Davis play in America East in Field Hockey with the likes of UNH, Maine and Monmouth. Harvard and Yale both have been successful with ice hockey and Princeton has been successful with field hockey playing in the title game in 2019. There are many more examples but just picking field hockey right now. |
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Post by timholycross on Aug 17, 2021 16:29:27 GMT -5
Former Olympic swimmer Jenny Thompson is a good example of choosing Stanford to receive a full scholarship, a top academic education and also swim at the top level of the NCAA with support and academic breaks to participate in national and international amateur and Olympic events. She is now a physician so it all worked out well. One of the coolest things I saw on their campus was the pool complex. This northeasterner was surprised to see that the competition swimming and diving pools are outdoors. And the (outdoor) stands seat about 2,000. Goes without saying that they've got awesome weather out there in Palo Alto. Wonder if they've ever had a rainout?  |
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 17, 2021 17:14:41 GMT -5
Lightning could end the meet pretty fast I would think.  |
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