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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 25, 2021 20:23:23 GMT -5
The PL teams have their work cut out for them with 35 out-of-conference games (we are not including the post season here) and likely only a half dozen where the PL squad will be favored. Here's how PL teams have done in OOC games in the past half dozen years, skipping the shortened Spring 2021 season
2014= 17-21
2015= 16-19
2016= 14-20
2017= 8-27
2018= 7-26
2019= 10-28
Here's the lineup for this season's OOC games
Lafayette
@ Air Force
@ Wm & Mary
vs U New Hampshire
vs U Pennsylvania
@ Harvard
Lehigh
vs Villanova
@ Richmond
vs Princeton
vs Yale
@ U Pennsylvania
Colgate
@ boston college
vs Stony Brook
vs Wm & Mary
@ Brown
@ Cornell
Holy Cross
@ Connecticut
vs Merrimack
@ Yale
@ Monmouth
vs Harvard
Fordham
@ Nebraska
vs Monmouth
@ Florida Atlantic
@ Stony Brook
vs Wagner
Georgetown
vs Marist
@ Delaware State
vs Harvard
@ Columbia
@ Morgan State
Bucknell
@ Sacred Heart
@ Villanova
vs U Pennsylvania
vs. Cornell
@ Army
So, your challenge is to pick the total number of OOC wins for the 7 PL teams combined. You can count the wins by team if you want to do so, but that is not a requirement. Good luck as we all compete for bragging rights.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2021 20:44:58 GMT -5
I'll go with 11 (with HC having more wins than any other PL team).
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Post by thecrossisback on Aug 25, 2021 21:45:17 GMT -5
I hope PL teams do well. I have a bad feeling some of these teams are in way over their head.
It just hurts the good PL teams because the conference gets rated at the bottom.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 25, 2021 22:28:55 GMT -5
8
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 25, 2021 23:18:35 GMT -5
Only one PL school (Lehigh) even plays a majority of its non-conference games at home. That's the first problem.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 26, 2021 0:50:45 GMT -5
Only one PL school (Lehigh) even plays a majority of its non-conference games at home. That's the first problem. Well, you have to figure that the FBS games will always be played on the road (thank you for the check). When you take those 5 games away, the remaining games are 15 home and 15 away..... |
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Post by hcpride on Aug 26, 2021 4:14:03 GMT -5
Fordham’s first three games are incredibly tough (Nebraska, Monmouth, Florida Atlantic). Ouch! If they are healthy their 4th game is a possible win (Stony Brook is down this year IMHO).
I'll guess 8 PL OOC victories this season.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 26, 2021 5:20:46 GMT -5
More optimistic than most - 12.
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Post by Ignutz on Aug 26, 2021 6:38:53 GMT -5
Eleven
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Post by midwestsader05 on Aug 26, 2021 7:57:54 GMT -5
I voted 9-10. I’ll go with an overall record of 10-25. 3 OOC wins by one PL team is the most. Either HC or G’Town (or both)
We also sort of got gipped a bit because preseason, I had G’Town beating 2 of 3 (Marist, Delaware State and Morgan State) Obviously, Marist came cancelled.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 26, 2021 10:48:08 GMT -5
Well, you have to figure that the FBS games will always be played on the road (thank you for the check). When you take those 5 games away, the remaining games are 15 home and 15 away..... Why does home and away have to be the case? Why couldn't a school simply say they'll play no more than one road game in the non-conference schedule? Some larger programs does this frequently and the home field advantage pays off in playoff/bowl consideration. Granted, it reduces the number of available opponents--probably a few more Merrimacks and a few less Delawares on future schedules. But if you've got PL teams facing 1-4 records heading into league play, there is no path to an at-large bid, and little room for a winning record overall. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 26, 2021 13:12:38 GMT -5
Well, you have to figure that the FBS games will always be played on the road (thank you for the check). When you take those 5 games away, the remaining games are 15 home and 15 away..... Why does home and away have to be the case? Why couldn't a school simply say they'll play no more than one road game in the non-conference schedule? Some larger programs does this frequently and the home field advantage pays off in playoff/bowl consideration. Granted, it reduces the number of available opponents--probably a few more Merrimacks and a few less Delawares on future schedules. But if you've got PL teams facing 1-4 records heading into league play, there is no path to an at-large bid, and little room for a winning record overall. I'm guessing no PL team is going to get an at-large bid with OOC wins only over the likes of Marist, Howard, LIU, & Morgan State |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 26, 2021 13:36:55 GMT -5
Well, you have to figure that the FBS games will always be played on the road (thank you for the check). When you take those 5 games away, the remaining games are 15 home and 15 away..... Why does home and away have to be the case? Why couldn't a school simply say they'll play no more than one road game in the non-conference schedule? Some larger programs does this frequently and the home field advantage pays off in playoff/bowl consideration. Granted, it reduces the number of available opponents--probably a few more Merrimacks and a few less Delawares on future schedules. But if you've got PL teams facing 1-4 records heading into league play, there is no path to an at-large bid, and little room for a winning record overall.In order to win an at-large bid out of the PL, you have to BEAT GOOD TEAMS in non-conference. If Holy Cross, for example, has a team deserving of an at-large bid, we should go at least 3-2 OOC. Factor in a loss to Fordham and that's 8-3 which would have us on the far bubble in a field of 24 depending on the records of the teams we beat. Going 4-1 against a bottom-of-the-barrel FCS schedule and then going 5-1 in the PL isn't getting anyone into the playoffs. |
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 26, 2021 14:55:57 GMT -5
I would suggest HC wins some games before we start debating whether or not those wins will get us into an at-large bid for the playoffs...or, better yet, simply win the PL so none of this would matter.  |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 26, 2021 15:53:46 GMT -5
Well, you have to figure that the FBS games will always be played on the road (thank you for the check). When you take those 5 games away, the remaining games are 15 home and 15 away..... Why does home and away have to be the case? Why couldn't a school simply say they'll play no more than one road game in the non-conference schedule? Some larger programs does this frequently and the home field advantage pays off in playoff/bowl consideration. Granted, it reduces the number of available opponents--probably a few more Merrimacks and a few less Delawares on future schedules. But if you've got PL teams facing 1-4 records heading into league play, there is no path to an at-large bid, and little room for a winning record overall. We can get home and away series with the Ivies and should seek them with regional CAA teams also. UMass should be a home and away series while they are flailing in FBS and continue when they inevitably fall back to earth in FCS. Worcester is like a home game for them. They have played home basketball games at the DCU. I attended one vs South Carolina. It was the first time I ever saw a "UMass Worcester" banner, which was hanging from the balcony in the enthusiastic UMass Medical School section. You would think Maine would like to get below the tree line every other year.🙂 |
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Post by efg72 on Aug 26, 2021 19:51:53 GMT -5
Lafayette (1-4)
@ Air Force--L
@ Wm & Mary--L
vs U New Hampshire--L
vs U Pennsylvania-W
@ Harvard-L
Leigh (0-5)
vs Villanova --L
@ Richmond- L
vs Princeton - L
vs Yale- L
@ U Pennsylvania - L
Colgate (1-4)
@ boston college - L
vs Stony Brook - -L
vs Wm & Mary -L
@ Brown -W
@ Cornell-L
Holy Cross (3-2)
@ Connecticut- W
vs Merrimack-W
@ Yale-L
@ Monmouth-L
vs Harvard-W
Fordham (3-2)
@ Nebraska- L
vs Monmouth-W
@ Florida Atlantic-L
@ Stony Brook-W
vs Wagner-W
Georgetown (3-2)
vs Marist-W
@ Delaware State-W
vs Harvard-L
@ Columbia-L
@ Morgan State-W
Buck ell (2-3)
@ Sacred Heart- W
@ Villanova-L
vs U Pennsylvania-W
vs. Cornell-L
@ Army-L
I guess a real optimist for the league
13-22
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 26, 2021 20:06:07 GMT -5
Lafayette (1-4) @ Air Force--L @ Wm & Mary--L vs U New Hampshire--L vs U Pennsylvania-W @ Harvard-L Leigh (0-5) vs Villanova --L @ Richmond- L vs Princeton - L vs Yale- L @ U Pennsylvania - L Colgate (1-4) @ boston college - L vs Stony Brook - -L vs Wm & Mary -L @ Brown -W @ Cornell-L Holy Cross (3-2) @ Connecticut- W vs Merrimack-W @ Yale-L @ Monmouth-L vs Harvard-W Fordham (3-2) @ Nebraska- L vs Monmouth-W @ Florida Atlantic-L @ Stony Brook-W vs Wagner-W Georgetown (3-2) vs Marist-W @ Delaware State-W vs Harvard-L @ Columbia-L @ Morgan State-W Buck ell (2-3) @ Sacred Heart- W @ Villanova-L vs U Pennsylvania-W vs. Cornell-L @ Army-L I guess a real optimist for the league 13-22 Fordham beats Monmouth, Monmouth beats HC, therefore Fordham beats HC? Home field advantage the decisive factor? |
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Post by efg72 on Aug 26, 2021 20:23:09 GMT -5
I think our game with Fordham will be a battle royal
Take 3 offensive QB plays away last spring and not sure we win
I think they are the better offensive team at this point or at least until we prove we can move the ball through the air
Not popular i am sure but bet the coaching staff is thinking about it
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 27, 2021 5:12:26 GMT -5
I bet the coaches are concentrating on UConn and not giving much thought to Fordham at this point in time.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 27, 2021 6:11:21 GMT -5
72, my post above might have been a bit flippant but seriously, there are too many games and too many variables between now and the Fordham game for the coaches to be giving this more than the most cursory thought. As we know, the Ram QB is probably the best in the league and he makes their offense go. Not at all wishing this on him but football being a contact sport, who knows if he doesn't get injured between now and then? That'd change the whole dynamic of our game with them.
Looking too far down the road and looking past other teams would be a recipe for disaster.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 27, 2021 7:11:14 GMT -5
The idea of saying that if scoring plays were taken out, HC would have lost m makes bo sense unless HC Turned the ball over on every one of those plays. What would have stopped HC from. scoring on a later play? Heck, if we take away all of HC scoring plays, we would not have won a single game.  |
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Post by efg72 on Aug 27, 2021 8:48:54 GMT -5
The idea of saying that if scoring plays were taken out, HC would have lost m makes bo sense unless HC Turned the ball over on every one of those plays. What would have stopped HC from. scoring on a later play? Heck, if we take away all of HC scoring plays, we would not have won a single game. Agree with what you are saying-- but my point is we put in an unknown quantity against the opponent- who had little or no information on what he might do and they got burned. He made great plays and of course that is part of the game. Had we stayed with what appeared to be the offensive game plan, and that means without Sluka, I am not sure we would have won by that margin or won the game. Not sure how many more times that will happen in the months ahead. |
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Post by efg72 on Aug 27, 2021 8:59:18 GMT -5
72, my post above might have been a bit flippant but seriously, there are too many games and too many variables between now and the Fordham game for the coaches to be giving this more than the most cursory thought. As we know, the Ram QB is probably the best in the league and he makes their offense go. Not at all wishing this on him but football being a contact sport, who knows if he doesn't get injured between now and then? That'd change the whole dynamic of our game with them. Looking too far down the road and looking past other teams would be a recipe for disaster. I agree with you --teams should take it one game at a time. I was asked a different question as we did the guessing / predictions of the PL OOC schedule that included the Fordham and HC games vs Monmouth and what does that might mean for the HC-Fordham game. |
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 27, 2021 9:27:27 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone saw this but Bucknell Head Coach on PL Media Day saying Fordham is the class of the league.
He could end up being right - time will tell - but if that’s not bulletin board material this season I don’t know what is.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 27, 2021 10:04:11 GMT -5
Not sure if anyone saw this but Bucknell Head Coach on PL Media Day saying Fordham is the class of the league. He could end up being right - time will tell - but if that’s not bulletin board material this season I don’t know what is. There the one vote for Fordham... It appears that the coach is looking ahead the season finale in Lewisburg to make his season. |
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