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Post by timholycross on Aug 30, 2021 14:26:22 GMT -5
It is a bigger and better job at Creighton though. I can't stand Omaha but many people adore the place. That's not my point. My point is that Blossom isn't leaving here after a successful run where he accomplished his goals and is now ready for another challenge. Exactly. Writing a nice plan that hasn't in any way gotten executed is neither a failure nor a success. Plus, the only program on the upswing seems to be football; and it's pretty unanimous here that it's a work in progress.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2021 14:47:25 GMT -5
What does John Andreoli earn as CEO of an insurance company (I don't know if it's a 400 person company or three guys and a shared assistant in a strip center) versus what the HC AD job pays? As much as I love HC I would not have taken a big pay cut to work there... I worked for someone who told me his dream job was to become the AD at a major university. At the time, he was chair of the BoT at said university, so I suppose, if he really wanted the job, he could have gotten it. He was a major donor to the university's athletic programs, was involved in several sports programs at national and international levels, and was described by DJT as "a very good man". I think it is fair to say he understood sports administration, he was networked into parts of the world of sports, and DJT's endorsement of him as an individual would simply have been the icing on the cake. So I ask, what does Messrs. JA and GL know about sports administration these days, how networked are they into the world of athletic directors and coaches, are they big donors or have they demonstrated great success in shaking the money tree, do they understand Title IX, etc., etc.  USC successively hired football stars Mike Garrett and Pat Haden as the AD for the Trojans. The press reporting on Haden stepping down. www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-pat-haden-retire-athletic-director-20160205-story.html
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 30, 2021 14:58:09 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that CU hiring MB did not just happen overnight, but probably has been in the works for some time.... I wonder if this June announcement fits into the equation: goholycross.com/news/2021/6/23/athletics-nick-smith-selected-to-attend-topconnect-ad-2021.aspxThat being said, I do not know who the other finalists were when MB was hired, but that list might be still relevant. I would definitely support Gordie as the next AD! He certainly knows the landscape and Worcester, something that is badly needed! The AD at Creighton did not announce that he was retiring until mid-July.
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Post by alum on Aug 30, 2021 15:08:25 GMT -5
What does John Andreoli earn as CEO of an insurance company (I don't know if it's a 400 person company or three guys and a shared assistant in a strip center) versus what the HC AD job pays? As much as I love HC I would not have taken a big pay cut to work there... I worked for someone who told me his dream job was to become the AD at a major university. At the time, he was chair of the BoT at said university, so I suppose, if he really wanted the job, he could have gotten it. He was a major donor to the university's athletic programs, was involved in several sports programs at national and international levels, and was described by DJT as "a very good man". I think it is fair to say he understood sports administration, he was networked into parts of the world of sports, and DJT's endorsement of him as an individual would simply have been the icing on the cake. S o I ask, what does Messrs. JA and GL know about sports administration these days, how networked are they into the world of athletic directors and coaches, are they big donors or have they demonstrated great success in shaking the money tree, do they understand Title IX, etc., etc.  USC successively hired football stars Mike Garrett and Pat Haden as the AD for the Trojans. The press reporting on Haden stepping down. www.latimes.com/sports/usc/la-sp-usc-pat-haden-retire-athletic-director-20160205-story.htmlProbably very little. I am just doing my best to get people to think about the fact that if they want HC to give the job to a local alum with no professional experience in college athletics that they should consider the other guy who at least has run a few things.
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 30, 2021 15:15:55 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that CU hiring MB did not just happen overnight, but probably has been in the works for some time.... I wonder if this June announcement fits into the equation: goholycross.com/news/2021/6/23/athletics-nick-smith-selected-to-attend-topconnect-ad-2021.aspxThat being said, I do not know who the other finalists were when MB was hired, but that list might be still relevant. I would definitely support Gordie as the next AD! He certainly knows the landscape and Worcester, something that is badly needed! The AD at Creighton did not announce that he was retiring until mid-July. You are correct, however, was he forced out? Check out the story below, particularly starting with the last part, beginning with Rasmussen, 70, announced.... Men's college basketball College basketball Creighton Bluejays men's basketball Creighton hires Holy Cross’ Marcus Blossom as its new AD By ERIC OLSON 2 hours ago OMAHA, Neb. (AP) — Creighton has hired Marcus Blossom away from Holy Cross to be its new athletic director. Blossom replaces Bruce Rasmussen, the Bluejays’ longtime athletic director who retired this summer. Blossom was Holy Cross’ athletic director for two years after spending five years at Boston College as senior associate athletic director for business and administration. “It’s hard to contain just how excited I am to join such an incredible program,” Blossom said Monday. “Creighton doesn’t just compete at the highest levels in the Big East and nationally, it does so the right way, never forgetting its priorities, values, commitment to community, and most important, the growth of student-athletes and the entirety of their experience.” Rasmussen, 70, announced his retirement on July 19, about a month after he and the school were sanctioned by the NCAA for the only major rules violation of his tenure. The NCAA found that a former assistant basketball coach accepted cash from a management agency. Rasmussen conducted his own investigation into the matter but kept the findings private until the FBI released details of a corruption scandal that involved several big-name schools. The NCAA put the Creighton men’s basketball program on two years’ probation, and the Bluejays were docked scholarships and given recruiting restrictions, among other penalties. The Bluejays had their best season under coach Greg McDermott, going 22-9 and finishing second in the Big East before advancing to the Sweet 16 for the first time since 1974. Blossom, who is Black, was hired five months after McDermott created a firestorm for twice using the term “plantation” while urging team unity during a locker room talk after a loss. Players publicly said they were upset by the analogy, which was evocative of slavery and the antebellum South. McDermott apologized and was reinstated in time to coach in the Big East Tournament.
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Post by trimster on Aug 30, 2021 15:47:19 GMT -5
Big East over the Patriot League, not even close. When will we admit that the Patriot League is holding HC back? Um, probably never. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2021 16:20:16 GMT -5
Big East over the Patriot League, not even close. When will we admit that the Patriot League is holding HC back? Um, probably never. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. If HC ever became a consistent MBB PL champion, OOC winner and factor in the NCAA, the Big East would probably come calling to Worcester and HC and the DCU just like they did the first time. Then we'd have to clarify our values again and make a decision.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 30, 2021 16:25:26 GMT -5
A long way to go for that to happen, unfortunately!
As they say it is what it is-- which is never a good way to start a conversation:)
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2021 16:28:29 GMT -5
A long way to go for that to happen, unfortunately! As they say it is what it is-- which is never a good way to start a conversation:) But a great way to get out of answering a probing question.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 30, 2021 16:29:16 GMT -5
For sure
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Post by hc87 on Aug 30, 2021 16:38:32 GMT -5
I always thought Eddie Reilly would have ended up HC at HC at some point. C'est la vie...
While my preference is for Gordie, my underlining belief is we should hire someone who has bled and bleeds purple today. Blossom just never seemed to be a good fit here...I'm sure he's a talented guy but (like many) was looking for the next rung up the laddahh so to speak as soon as he was hired here. Let's really try to get the best person who has lived as a Sader and still has a passion for HC's future success athletically.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2021 16:41:48 GMT -5
I always thought Eddie Reilly would have ended up HC at HC at some point. C'est la vie... While my preference is for Gordie, my underlining belief is we should hire someone who has bled and bleeds purple today. Blossom just never seemed to be a good fit here...I'm sure he's a talented guy but (like many) was looking for the next rung up the laddahh so to speak as soon as he was hired here. Let's really try to get the best person who has lived as a Sader and still has a passion for HC's future success athletically. Crossports membership would have to be a strong credential.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2021 17:27:03 GMT -5
I’m not sure what it means, but the last 2 AD’s were hired by top athletic schools. Does it mean our process was bad or does it mean our criteria for success was correct? Just askin?
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 30, 2021 17:30:22 GMT -5
Not sure Creighton or Air Force academy are considered "top athletic schools." No doubt higher than Holy Cross but hardly Notre Dame, Alabama, etc, etc.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 30, 2021 17:38:52 GMT -5
Women's Ice Hockey get a pass until they get a full recruiting cycle through. Jumping from D-III to one of the premier conferences in the country is tough and I absolutely give them a pass. However, doesn't the fact that women's hockey needs a pass suggest that maybe they didn't start off that strong under the new coach? I'm nitpicking, but a sentence like that sounds more like propaganda than reality and when you start slipping in sentences like that, people might want to take everything with a grain of salt It is the truth....Coach LaChappelle's track record at BU was pretty good and the program has dropped off since she left. Moving from D-3 to D-1 in Women's Hockey is a huge jump and without giving her a full D-1 recruiting cycle you can't really grade her. She came into a program with zero D-1 players. This will be the fourth year of Hockey East play so it is coming time to show results. But what is considered a good season in Hockey East? They are clearly behind every single team in the conference in terms of funding and facilities.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 30, 2021 18:14:39 GMT -5
Really 3rd year given Covid-imho
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Post by hc87 on Aug 30, 2021 18:32:38 GMT -5
I really don't know the marketplace for ADs in general but I think when a school is looking for someone, HC and schools of its ilk (other PLs, Ivies, other smaller D1 academic schools) are probably fertile ground to look for someone... particularly when there may be a "mess" to clean up, changing the culture etc. Experience working at an academic-centric school, overseeing a lot of programs (I think we have 24 to Creighton's 14 I believe) etc. look good to that next school.
I wish ADMB success with the Blue Jays but I really don't think his leaving will be much of a hit to the school athletically.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Aug 30, 2021 18:35:28 GMT -5
From everything I'm reading here and on the parallel site, this may be the best departure in HC history. Blue Jays?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 30, 2021 18:58:56 GMT -5
Holy Cross sponsors 27 varsity sports, each of which competes at the NCAA Division I level (FCS for football). The Crusaders are members of the Patriot League, the Atlantic Hockey Association and the Women's Hockey East Association.
Creighton sponsors 14 varsity sports, 6 men, 8 women.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2021 19:04:02 GMT -5
Holy Cross sponsors 27 varsity sports, each of which competes at the NCAA Division I level (FCS for football). The Crusaders are members of the Patriot League, the Atlantic Hockey Association and the Women's Hockey East Association. Creighton sponsors 14 varsity sports, 6 men, 8 women. Higher pay for less responsibility. Where do I sign? I wonder if the Oracle of Omaha, Warren Buffett is a Creighton fan or if he is a Cornhusker loyalist? I wouldn't kick Charlie Munger out of the gym either if he was a Creighton fan.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 30, 2021 19:36:12 GMT -5
From everything I'm reading here and on the parallel site, this may be the best departure in HC history. Blue Jays? what do you mean by "parallel site"?
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Post by alum on Aug 30, 2021 19:40:08 GMT -5
The man or woman who is hired for this job will be charged with doing what it takes to win in the PL and our other leagues. I would say that success should be defined as league championships in football and basketball and consistent top half of the league finishes in everything else. Hire the person who is ready on Day 1 to lead us in that direction.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 30, 2021 19:53:29 GMT -5
From everything I'm reading here and on the parallel site, this may be the best departure in HC history. Blue Jays? what do you mean by "parallel site"? This subject is like a four alarm fire. It's all over Crossports in multiple categories.
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Post by trimster on Aug 30, 2021 20:26:19 GMT -5
Um, probably never. Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. If HC ever became a consistent MBB PL champion, OOC winner and factor in the NCAA, the Big East would probably come calling to Worcester and HC and the DCU just like they did the first time. Then we'd have to clarify our values again and make a decision. Even if your 3 ifs happened, I just don't see the BE being interested. That ship sailed a long time ago and it ain't coming around again.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 30, 2021 20:33:18 GMT -5
If HC ever became a consistent MBB PL champion, OOC winner and factor in the NCAA, the Big East would probably come calling to Worcester and HC and the DCU just like they did the first time. Then we'd have to clarify our values again and make a decision. Even if your 3 ifs happened, I just don't see the BE being interested. That ship sailed a long time ago and it ain't coming around again. With all the changes and conference adjustments being discussed I am not sure all options are off the table-most yes but not all
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