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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 31, 2021 17:31:36 GMT -5
WORCESTER, Mass. -- Holy Cross Athletics has announced that it will require all spectators attending indoor athletics events to show evidence of full vaccination before entering any facility. This policy is effective immediately. Upon arriving at all indoor venues, visitors must show photo ID and proof of full vaccination, which can be done by presenting a CDC COVID-19 vaccination card (digital or physical) or by presenting a verified digital vaccine card from The Airside App or VaxYes. (Please note, visitors should enroll at least 24 hours prior to arrival on campus to ensure admission.) Children under 12 are permitted to enter indoor venues, and must remain masked at all times. Non-fully vaccinated guests and visitors 12 years and older will not be permitted entrance unless a medical accommodation is requested and granted by the College. Visitors requesting an exemption must email covidvaccine@holycross.edu to request an exemption at least five days in advance to discuss the availability of reasonable accommodations. Guests attending outdoor competitions are not required to mask, though unvaccinated guests and visitors under 12 years of age are encouraged to remain fully masked while on the Holy Cross on campus. All guests must follow the campus mask policy and mask indoors at all times, and visitors experiencing symptoms are asked to stay home. FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS I am a Holy Cross basketball or hockey season ticket holder but I am not in compliance with this policy. Will my season tickets be refunded? Yes, ticket refunds can be issued by contacting the Holy Cross Ticket Office at 1-844-GOCROSS. Your seats will be held for the 2022-23 season to allow you to renew in the future. I am unvaccinated but can provide a negative COVID-19 test. Can I watch an indoor athletics event? No, all spectators 12 and older must provide proof of full vaccination or receive a verified exemption from the College to enter any indoor athletics venues. goholycross.com/news/2021/8/31/holy-cross-athletics-announces-updated-visitor-policy-vaccination-requirements.aspx
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Post by newfieguy74 on Aug 31, 2021 17:57:05 GMT -5
Excellent.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 18:29:43 GMT -5
Im sure you can easily obtain a fake vaccination card. they seem to be out there for health care workers in nursing homes.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 31, 2021 19:00:07 GMT -5
One also needs a photo ID, not as easy to falsify.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2021 20:09:09 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Aug 31, 2021 22:06:55 GMT -5
The proof of vaccination is purely for show. Can’t imagine an easier thing to falsify. I am actually vaccinated and my Walgreen’s gave me a photocopy of a vaccine card because they had run out.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 1, 2021 6:16:37 GMT -5
Fordham policy Fans at Outdoor Events Fans/guests will be permitted to attend outdoor events. All fans/guests at outdoor competitions must show proof of vaccination when they enter campus. Children under 12 will not be allowed to attend outdoor events even if they are masked and have a negative COVID test.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Sept 1, 2021 6:29:55 GMT -5
The proof of vaccination is purely for show. Can’t imagine an easier thing to falsify. I am actually vaccinated and my Walgreen’s gave me a photocopy of a vaccine card because they had run out. This is a very cynical take on your fellow man. I think the vast majority of people will do the right thing and only attend if they have a real vaccination card.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 1, 2021 7:12:19 GMT -5
I would look VERY closely at my friend 92’s vaccination proof when he hits Mt. St. James to watch Crusader sports events! 😉😂
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Post by Tom on Sept 1, 2021 7:49:58 GMT -5
Not much new information here. The school has had a policy for a while now that all visitors must be vaccinated to attend any on campus, indoor function with food.
Interesting timing with the volleyball team having their home opener today. I have never been to a volleyball game and have no clue if the concession stand is open. If not that could represent a change in the policy which would now prohibit spectators there. Swimming could fall under the same category. As far has basketball and hockey go, this policy is just a press release informing the public of the policy that has been in effect for a while now.
Delving a little into semantics, there are vending machines in Hart. Do they qualify as "serving food"? If so, this public announcement isn't even a policy change for the events where the concession stand is closed
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I took a picture of my vaccine card with my phone. That looks like it's acceptable. Time will tell if getting one of those apps will make entry into Hart run smoother.
----------------------------------------- I feel like I say this same thing every time I comment on the school's policy: Things are changing so frequently, there is no guarantee that this policy will be the same come mid-October when the hockey team has their home opener
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Post by clmetsfan on Sept 1, 2021 8:07:59 GMT -5
The proof of vaccination is purely for show. Can’t imagine an easier thing to falsify. I am actually vaccinated and my Walgreen’s gave me a photocopy of a vaccine card because they had run out. This is why more states should have centralized passports that are tied to the state vaccine records. NY does this with the Excelsior pass.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2021 8:33:37 GMT -5
The proof of vaccination is purely for show. Can’t imagine an easier thing to falsify. I am actually vaccinated and my Walgreen’s gave me a photocopy of a vaccine card because they had run out. This is a very cynical take on your fellow man. I think the vast majority of people will do the right thing and only attend if they have a real vaccination card. It’s not cynical. It’s practical. If we have a vaccination requirement, I suspect most people will honor it. The question is what additional benefit the “proof” piece adds. The answer is none or very close to none. If some unvaccinated person wants to attend a game, he or she will be able to do it with or without the “proof” requirement. But, we will have much longer lines to get into the game while everyone fishes cards and licenses out of their pockets. And I’m sure the RSIG guys will be well trained in identifying the one homemade one in the bunch. At least we can feel really good about ourselves. Brings back memories of the BU mask requirement.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2021 8:36:36 GMT -5
I would look VERY closely at my friend 92’s vaccination proof when he hits Mt. St. James to watch Crusader sports events! 😉😂 That’s the funny part. My “proof” could not look more fake even though it’s totally legit. I asked for an actual card when I got my second dose and they told me I’d be fine with my piece of paper. We shall see. Will probably have to try one of the apps at some point.
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Post by Ray on Sept 1, 2021 8:45:41 GMT -5
Focusing on the fraud possibilities seems to bury the lede, which is that this is exactly the right policy. If there are marginal inconveniences re: delays in getting into events, so be it... heck, that would mean we're actually drawing well! (And I assume the documentation requirements don't apply to students, since showing a student ID is implicit proof of vaccination.)
Anyone who doesn't want to comply or thinks it's too much of a hassle can stay home and watch on ESPN+.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 1, 2021 8:56:42 GMT -5
The proof of vaccination is purely for show. Can’t imagine an easier thing to falsify. I am actually vaccinated and my Walgreen’s gave me a photocopy of a vaccine card because they had run out. This is why more states should have centralized passports that are tied to the state vaccine records. NY does this with the Excelsior pass. Agree
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Post by Tom on Sept 1, 2021 9:03:40 GMT -5
This is a very cynical take on your fellow man. I think the vast majority of people will do the right thing and only attend if they have a real vaccination card. It’s not cynical. It’s practical. If we have a vaccination requirement, I suspect most people will honor it. The HC fans are all honorable human beings and should be non issue. It's those fans from the opposing schools who are more likely to be disreputable. DISCLAIMER: Although they are avid HC fans, HC92's sons are capable of almost anything including forging vax documents just for fun even if they've been vaccinated
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Post by lou on Sept 1, 2021 9:17:30 GMT -5
Manhattan District Attorney on recent arrests. It seems people are willing to pay $250 for fake cards, for proof of a vaccine which is free
“We will continue to safeguard public health in New York with proactive investigations like these, but the stakes are too high to tackle fake vaccination cards with whack-a-mole prosecutions,” Mr. Vance said. “Making, selling, and purchasing forged vaccination cards are serious crimes with serious public safety consequences.”
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2021 10:05:40 GMT -5
It’s not cynical. It’s practical. If we have a vaccination requirement, I suspect most people will honor it. The HC fans are all honorable human beings and should be non issue. It's those fans from the opposing schools who are more likely to be disreputable. DISCLAIMER: Although they are avid HC fans, HC92's sons are capable of almost anything including forging vax documents just for fun even if they've been vaccinated Reminds me of when I used to use my girlfriend’s ID to get into Kimball just because I thought their process of making me show my ID every time I walked in was stupid and not actually doing anything. Turns out I was right.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 1, 2021 11:18:18 GMT -5
This is a very cynical take on your fellow man. I think the vast majority of people will do the right thing and only attend if they have a real vaccination card. It’s not cynical. It’s practical. If we have a vaccination requirement, I suspect most people will honor it. The question is what additional benefit the “proof” piece adds. The answer is none or very close to none. If some unvaccinated person wants to attend a game, he or she will be able to do it with or without the “proof” requirement. But, we will have much longer lines to get into the game while everyone fishes cards and licenses out of their pockets. And I’m sure the RSIG guys will be well trained in identifying the one homemade one in the bunch. At least we can feel really good about ourselves. Brings back memories of the BU mask requirement. That raises a question. Do the visiting teams at BU (starting w/women's volleyball) have to mask up (or, with Austin Butler being the poster boy for this, chin-diaper up) to play a game/match indoors at BU?
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Post by Tom on Sept 1, 2021 11:31:42 GMT -5
It’s not cynical. It’s practical. If we have a vaccination requirement, I suspect most people will honor it. The question is what additional benefit the “proof” piece adds. The answer is none or very close to none. If some unvaccinated person wants to attend a game, he or she will be able to do it with or without the “proof” requirement. But, we will have much longer lines to get into the game while everyone fishes cards and licenses out of their pockets. And I’m sure the RSIG guys will be well trained in identifying the one homemade one in the bunch. At least we can feel really good about ourselves. Brings back memories of the BU mask requirement. That raises a question. Do the visiting teams at BU (starting w/women's volleyball) have to mask up (or, with Austin Butler being the poster boy for this, chin-diaper up) to play a game/match indoors at BU? Here's a better question, Will visiting (and home) teams have to mask up to play a game/match indoors at Holy Cross? The policy that went into effect in mid August said everyone in the campus community and visitors to the campus must wear a mask indoors. Although nothing says that this applies to athletes participating in their sport, there's also nothing that says it doesn't apply
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Post by timholycross on Sept 1, 2021 13:42:06 GMT -5
That raises a question. Do the visiting teams at BU (starting w/women's volleyball) have to mask up (or, with Austin Butler being the poster boy for this, chin-diaper up) to play a game/match indoors at BU? Here's a better question, Will visiting (and home) teams have to mask up to play a game/match indoors at Holy Cross? The policy that went into effect in mid August said everyone in the campus community and visitors to the campus must wear a mask indoors. Although nothing says that this applies to athletes participating in their sport, there's also nothing that says it doesn't apply HC had masks everywhere indoors during the winter of 2020-21, but none during ballgames, I believe.
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