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Post by Non Alum Dave on Sept 5, 2021 8:25:11 GMT -5
1. Taking the opening kick-off against a hungry, desperate opponent with much to prove, and methodically marching it down the field 70+ yards for an opening statement. 2. While facing adversity after losing the lead with a bad turnover deep in your own territory, you come back to take the lead at halftime. 3. With your opponent pinning you back on your 2 yard line, with the game still very much on the line, you go the distance to essentially deliver the knock out blow. 4. Time and time again you fight through opening game mistakes that could have been costly.
Sure, there were play selections to second guess, can't believe there are many schools out there that are exempt from that. But if that is the major "issue" right now with the program, I would say the program is in pretty good shape right now.
Go Cross Go!
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Post by gks on Sept 5, 2021 8:27:12 GMT -5
1. Taking the opening kick-off against a hungry, desperate opponent with much to prove, and methodically marching it down the field 70+ yards for an opening statement. 2. While facing adversity after losing the lead with a bad turnover deep in your own territory, you come back to take the lead at halftime. 3. With your opponent pinning you back on your 2 yard, with the game still very much on the line, you go the distance to essentially deliver the knock out blow. 4. Time and time again you fight through opening game mistakes that could have been costly. Sure, there were play selections to second guess, can't believe there are many schools out there that are exempt from that. But if that is the major "issue" right now with the program, I would say the program is in pretty good shape right now. Go Cross Go! Perfectly said.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 5, 2021 9:08:41 GMT -5
The play calling is a non-issue. Chesney & staff know what they are doing. He is a winner.
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 5, 2021 10:32:05 GMT -5
The play calling is a non-issue. Chesney & staff know what they are doing. He is a winner. I believe that Chesney and his staff have many more arrows in their quiver, but had no reason to show those to Yale, Monmouth, Harvard, Fordham, or any others against whom we may need to use them going forward. Pretty good spot to be in, no?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 5, 2021 10:41:54 GMT -5
The play calling is a non-issue. Chesney & staff know what they are doing. He is a winner. I believe that Chesney and his staff have many more arrows in their quiver, but had no reason to show those to Yale, Monmouth, Harvard, Fordham, or any others against whom we may need to use them going forward. Pretty good spot to be in, no? HC protected the ball and won the turnover battle 4-1. That's better than being creative but losing the turnover battle. 76 yards and a cloud of dust is good conservative play calling. Sluka doesn't appear to make risky throws, which is priceless. He will have some interceptions of course.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 5, 2021 11:37:36 GMT -5
Character: Magnanimous in victory and in defeat as well. Play like Champions. Act like Champions.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 5, 2021 12:35:14 GMT -5
Character: Magnanimous in victory and in defeat as well. Play like Champions. Act like Champions. Good point. I was surprised by UConn QB Zergiotis' demeanor on the sidelines.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Sept 5, 2021 13:08:39 GMT -5
Although Edsall is pilloried here and elsewhere, I saw him congratulate individual HC players at midfield after the game.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 5, 2021 13:43:04 GMT -5
Although Edsall is pilloried here and elsewhere, I saw him congratulate individual HC players at midfield after the game. He knows he’ll be in the job market soon enough. Good to do as much networking as he can. And he’s not a good human. Good of him to congratulate our guys but not nearly enough to overcome many years of jackassery.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 5, 2021 13:58:42 GMT -5
Although Edsall is pilloried here and elsewhere, I saw him congratulate individual HC players at midfield after the game. He knows he’ll be in the job market soon enough. Good to do as much networking as he can. And he’s not a good human. Good of him to congratulate our guys but not early enough to overcome many years of jackassery. Good word choice
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 5, 2021 14:43:56 GMT -5
The play calling is a non-issue. Chesney & staff know what they are doing. He is a winner. When Sluka attempted a pass on first down, we were a perfect 6 for 6 in either getting a 1st down or TD on that series. Yet, we only had Sluka attempt a pass on 6 of 26 (23%) 1st down plays before we started running out the clock up 10 with 6:00+ left. This included 6 3-and-out drives that began with runs. Sorry, but this ultra conservative play calling is going to cost us games against good opponents. Chesney has done a great job assembling playmakers all over the field (and depth chart) on offense— let them play!
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Post by hchoops on Sept 5, 2021 14:48:30 GMT -5
What is your football coach’s experience ? How many wins do you have ?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 5, 2021 15:10:17 GMT -5
What is your football coach’s experience ? How many wins do you have ? Zero Silly me forgot that nobody is allowed to have an opinion unless they played and coached at the highest level of the sport.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 5, 2021 16:00:25 GMT -5
Not sure BBC is wrong, but doing so might create other risks offensively.
What is the risk reward in taking a conservative vs open approach offensively?
Chesney appears to prefer, at least to me, for the offense to control the clock, with simple execution of the game plan, and capitalize on the mistake(s) of the opponent. In other words let the offense score what is needed to win, but rely on the defense and special teams to determine the outcome of the game.
It has been a successful formula for him and it seems like he believes in it.
I agree we could be better offensively if we opened if up, but if we do it might cost us a game or two this year in the same way as it could win a game or two. Again this risk reward decision is made by a staff that gets paid to make the call and do so knowing the strengths and weaknesses of the players.
Longer term, beyond this game, I do think it is possible other coaches will use the conservative offense approach against us in recruiting wide receivers who want and need the ball, but that is nothing more than speculation.
And while Sluka continues to impress, one of his strengths is creating opportunity in space. I wonder if they put in a play or two this year using one of the other QB's ,with Sluka at WR, and try to get him the ball in space and let him make a play with his feet? Also a risk reward decision.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 5, 2021 16:13:47 GMT -5
Sometimes the air game is live by the sword, die by the sword. UCONN died by the sword yesterday.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 5, 2021 16:39:12 GMT -5
Edsall announced his retirement at the end of the season. I bet he's out of there sooner.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 5, 2021 16:49:51 GMT -5
Sometimes the air game is live by the sword, die by the sword. UCONN died by the sword yesterday. As I said it is risk reward decision😇
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Post by crossbball13 on Sept 5, 2021 17:32:44 GMT -5
The play calling is a non-issue. Chesney & staff know what they are doing. He is a winner. When Sluka attempted a pass on first down, we were a perfect 6 for 6 in either getting a 1st down or TD on that series. Yet, we only had Sluka attempt a pass on 6 of 26 (23%) 1st down plays before we started running out the clock up 10 with 6:00+ left. This included 6 3-and-out drives that began with runs. Sorry, but this ultra conservative play calling is going to cost us games against good opponents. Chesney has done a great job assembling playmakers all over the field (and depth chart) on offense— let them play! But they won by 10 with a bunch of offensive scores. If they lost or scored fewer points then this might make sense. But they didn’t and this doesn’t. He did exactly what he needed to do to win the game…just like at Bucknell.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 5, 2021 19:12:52 GMT -5
When Sluka attempted a pass on first down, we were a perfect 6 for 6 in either getting a 1st down or TD on that series. Yet, we only had Sluka attempt a pass on 6 of 26 (23%) 1st down plays before we started running out the clock up 10 with 6:00+ left. This included 6 3-and-out drives that began with runs. Sorry, but this ultra conservative play calling is going to cost us games against good opponents. Chesney has done a great job assembling playmakers all over the field (and depth chart) on offense— let them play! But they won by 10 with a bunch of offensive scores. If they lost or scored fewer points then this might make sense. But they didn’t and this doesn’t. He did exactly what he needed to do to win the game…just like at Bucknell. Not sure who disagrees with that, especially about the UCONN game The question as I read it was more about the future --at least from my perspective- up tempo would be more entertaining, but in the end it is about wins and not entertainment- at least for now
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 5, 2021 19:30:03 GMT -5
So, you agree with Fr. Brooks that Holy Cross is not in the entertainment business? Sorry, you threw a gopher ball. Couldn't resist.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 5, 2021 19:42:32 GMT -5
But they won by 10 with a bunch of offensive scores. If they lost or scored fewer points then this might make sense. But they didn’t and this doesn’t. He did exactly what he needed to do to win the game…just like at Bucknell. Not sure who disagrees with that, especially about the UCONN game The question as I read it was more about the future --at least from my perspective- up tempo would be more entertaining, but in the end it is about wins and not entertainment- at least for now Part about entertainment, but more importantly about playing good teams (e.g. getting steamrolled in the South Dakota State game without any answers). We can’t expect 4 turnovers, including 1 for a TD, and only 262 yards of offense against good teams. Having so many 3-and-out drives is going to wear down the defense against an opponent who can actually move the ball. We are playing like we need to thread the needle, but we have recruited at a level where we should play like we belong with good teams.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 5, 2021 19:51:09 GMT -5
I think opening up, if we can do it at a high enough level, potentially makes us less predictable and each part of the offensive game better --But I don't get to make the decisions and that is a good thing
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 5, 2021 19:55:18 GMT -5
We are not going to be able to run the ball 50 times and pass 20 times against a top FCS team and expect to be successful.
I’ll give HCBC the benefit of the doubt that he knew he could control the game at the line of scrimmage and felt like he didn’t need to be throwing the ball around the field.
Let’s see what Yale and Monmouth brings.
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Post by efg72 on Sept 5, 2021 20:01:51 GMT -5
So, you agree with Fr. Brooks that Holy Cross is not in the entertainment business? Sorry, you threw a gopher ball. Couldn't resist. Good one If it has a budget/P&L it is more about dollars and entertainment W/L record impacts dollars As they said in the movie Gladiator are you not entertained Without entertainment the fans/audience die off which means the dollars disappear But what the heck
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Post by DiMarz on Sept 6, 2021 15:25:25 GMT -5
I had a HS coach who always said when one puts the ball in the air, 2 out of the 3 things that can happen are negative...(complete, incomplete, intercepted)...
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