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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 6, 2021 11:07:31 GMT -5
Believe it was a financial issue from what I heard from scuttlebutt sitting in the stands 50 years ago from old guys moaning about Ed Doherty’s play calling and why we did not bring back Mel. Mel was looking for more $ at the time he left HC. Young guys as well: 3rd & 7: draw play every single time
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 6, 2021 11:12:40 GMT -5
UConn is in a very bad spot. It chose BE hoops over football, and was cast loose in the midst of major conference re-alignment. It is an orphan that no one wants to adopt. I would think the only coaches who would be interested would be FCS coaches who have a successful record that they can fall back on if UConn retains a classification of a failed program, or an OC or DC at a Power Five who also has a resume demonstrating multi-year success, that he could also fall back on. All that changes if UConn finds a good conference affiliation for football-only. But right now, they're a vagabond school filling out other schools' schedules. UConn might be the exception which makes the rule that football is more important than basketball. No other school can touch their combined M&W BB championships this century.
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Post by hc6774 on Sept 6, 2021 11:16:57 GMT -5
Thanks Crucis....I can see in that day and age why Massucco was chosen....was just curious if we looked "outside HC" at all for that appointment. Why did Massucco leave after a pretty good '66 season for WPI? Pressure of the job etc? In Fr K's book he documents Fr Swords decision in 1966 to limit incoming [fall?] scholarships to 20 for football - 6 for basketball & 2 for baseball.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 6, 2021 11:42:24 GMT -5
UConn is in a very bad spot. It chose BE hoops over football, and was cast loose in the midst of major conference re-alignment. It is an orphan that no one wants to adopt. I would think the only coaches who would be interested would be FCS coaches who have a successful record that they can fall back on if UConn retains a classification of a failed program, or an OC or DC at a Power Five who also has a resume demonstrating multi-year success, that he could also fall back on. All that changes if UConn finds a good conference affiliation for football-only. But right now, they're a vagabond school filling out other schools' schedules. UConn might be the exception which makes the rule that football is more important than basketball. No other school can touch their combined M&W BB championships this century. True, which is they made the decision they made. But if they were on the other side of the fence (P5 as opposed to G5), it would be a different story.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2021 11:53:16 GMT -5
Believe it was a financial issue from what I heard from scuttlebutt sitting in the stands 50 years ago from old guys moaning about Ed Doherty’s play calling and why we did not bring back Mel. Mel was looking for more $ at the time he left HC. HC had no money at the time and it's tough to be anything other than cheap when that's the case. Remember- no gym, wooden unpainted stands at Fitton, some portions of which were low class high school bleachers; no weight room, no standard outdoor quarter mile track, no rink. The improvements that came about when Ron Perry came aboard were monumental, even if they still put us 10-15 years behind everyone else.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 6, 2021 11:54:34 GMT -5
UConn is in a very bad spot. It chose BE hoops over football, and was cast loose in the midst of major conference re-alignment. It is an orphan that no one wants to adopt. I would think the only coaches who would be interested would be FCS coaches who have a successful record that they can fall back on if UConn retains a classification of a failed program, or an OC or DC at a Power Five who also has a resume demonstrating multi-year success, that he could also fall back on. All that changes if UConn finds a good conference affiliation for football-only. But right now, they're a vagabond school filling out other schools' schedules. UMass decided on A-10 hoops over MAC football
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2021 11:59:29 GMT -5
Believe it was a financial issue from what I heard from scuttlebutt sitting in the stands 50 years ago from old guys moaning about Ed Doherty’s play calling and why we did not bring back Mel. Mel was looking for more $ at the time he left HC. Young guys as well: 3rd & 7: draw play every single time Ed's tenure was classic HC- gave him every constraint under the sun (hepatitis made the budget even tighter), he got the program above water; but by the time he left a combination of those constraints and some weak recruiting put the program in nearly as bad shape as when he took over.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 6, 2021 13:06:03 GMT -5
Can you remember what Eddie The Brain's two odd hobbies/interests were, as noted on each game day program?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 6, 2021 13:18:17 GMT -5
Can't remember those hobbies but from Google I just learned Ed's first boss out of HC was a high school head coach named Vince Lombardi, and that the Arizona equivalent of the Heisman Trophy for high school players is the Ed Doherty Award.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 6, 2021 13:23:00 GMT -5
Believe it was a financial issue from what I heard from scuttlebutt sitting in the stands 50 years ago from old guys moaning about Ed Doherty’s play calling and why we did not bring back Mel. Mel was looking for more $ at the time he left HC. HC had no money at the time and it's tough to be anything other than cheap when that's the case. Remember- no gym, wooden unpainted stands at Fitton, some portions of which were low class high school bleachers; no weight room, no standard outdoor quarter mile track, no rink. The improvements that came about when Ron Perry came aboard were monumental, even if they still put us 10-15 years behind everyone else. Did Ron "shake the money tree" with Alumni? He certainly had credibility as a two time national champion.
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Post by hcnation on Sept 6, 2021 14:02:09 GMT -5
Can't remember those hobbies but from Google I just learned Ed's first boss out of HC was a high school head coach named Vince Lombardi, and that the Arizona equivalent of the Heisman Trophy for high school players is the Ed Doherty Award. He also coached Arizona State in a New Year’s Day bowl game -“The Salad Bowl “ .
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 6, 2021 14:57:43 GMT -5
HC had no money at the time and it's tough to be anything other than cheap when that's the case. Remember- no gym, wooden unpainted stands at Fitton, some portions of which were low class high school bleachers; no weight room, no standard outdoor quarter mile track, no rink. The improvements that came about when Ron Perry came aboard were monumental, even if they still put us 10-15 years behind everyone else. Did Ron "shake the money tree" with Alumni? He certainly had credibility as a two time national champion. Fr. Brooks, Fr. Miller and EBW not only shook the money trees, they caused earthquakes with their shakes. 😊 RP Sr. Had to ensure the coaches were performing to expectations.
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Post by cmo on Sept 6, 2021 16:50:01 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Sept 6, 2021 16:56:17 GMT -5
Did Ron "shake the money tree" with Alumni? He certainly had credibility as a two time national champion. Fr. Brooks, Fr. Miller and EBW not only shook the money trees, they caused earthquakes with their shakes. 😊 RP Sr. Had to ensure the coaches were performing to expectations. Lol they did indeed
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 6, 2021 17:07:10 GMT -5
Sounds like there was a vote of no confidence by the team? the athletic director? TPTB? big boosters?
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Post by beaven302 on Sept 6, 2021 17:30:19 GMT -5
Job security could very well have been why Mel left HC. I remember Brian Kavanaugh once claiming that one of his pre-game pep talks came down to something like: "We have to win, I've got a wife and kids."
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 6, 2021 17:33:52 GMT -5
Eddie Doherty’s hobbies: chess, presumably playing, and bullfighting, presumably watching
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 6, 2021 17:55:39 GMT -5
Wow! Thought Randy would be around at least for 2-3 more games.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2021 18:03:52 GMT -5
Announce your retirement at the end of the season, ensures you'll be cashing a paycheck until his contract (for this season) runs out. Most likely scenario at that point was they'd tell him to call in sick the rest of the season.
His players didn't exactly cover themselves in glory on Saturday; be interesting to see if this bunch pulls together and competes the rest of the year or gets completely embarrassed.
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 6, 2021 18:05:25 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Sept 6, 2021 18:40:18 GMT -5
Eddie Doherty’s hobbies: chess, presumably playing, and bullfighting, presumably watching Think he did both, but I might not have a clear memory
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 18:46:00 GMT -5
Edsall was 6-32 in the second stint. That it is just insane.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 6, 2021 19:07:50 GMT -5
Edsall was 6-32 in the second stint. That it is just insane. First 12 games: 3-9 Last 26 games: 3-23
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2021 19:10:24 GMT -5
Three of those six wins against HC, Wagner, and Rhode Island.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 6, 2021 19:35:53 GMT -5
First twelve games he had his predecessor's recruits. The winner of the Connecticut/Rhode Island game was supposed to get Block Island but I guess it wasn't legally enforceable.
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