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Post by mm67 on Sept 19, 2021 10:17:08 GMT -5
No hope for Conn (or Mass) whatsoever playing as 1A independent much longer, and there isn't a 1A conference in the country that would either as FB-only member. UConn has little to no football appeal outside of Storrs. Nor, does Mass outside of Amherst. FBS football is not in their DNA. BC is the sole true FBS university in New England. BC has the tradition and the market. It is a great mid-sized university. If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Both UConn & UMass should return to their Div II roots at the FCS level in the CAA if they would be accepted. (most likely) Holy Cross is in a good place for a school of its size and academics.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Sept 19, 2021 10:32:48 GMT -5
UConn's new frosh QB appears to be quite talented. Their there touchdown were late in twhegane, but in this drives he showed skills paired with some young teammates. There is some hoops for UConn's future, but not in less than 2 or 3 years, IMHO. Rgs, you are so right, "there is some hoops for UConn's future"; in fact, hoops is the only future that they have at the moment. lol
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 23, 2021 11:17:10 GMT -5
Highlights of the Fresno State win over #13 UCLA in the Rose Bowl. To me, it looks as if the Fresno State QB played the final minutes with bruised ribs, if not cracked ribs. The announcer at the end declares it to be one of the greatest games ever. Certainly, one of the greatest concluding five minutes of football ever.,
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 23, 2021 12:19:09 GMT -5
If you haven't seen those highlights, take 5 minutes and check it out - that Fresno qb is one tough cookie
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 23, 2021 12:39:44 GMT -5
Yes, exciting game but did you see in the final seconds of the video the banner at the bottom that Fresno State has beaten UCLA 4 times in a row with the win and 3 of the last time in the Rose Bowl.
Makes you wonder if this was a big upset.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 23, 2021 12:46:47 GMT -5
Was UCLA #13 before any of those prior losses ? Seems like quite an upset.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 23, 2021 13:21:41 GMT -5
Splitting the baby, I'd define it as a "mild upset".....Fresno is now #22, UCLA #24 in the AP poll now
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 23, 2021 20:38:03 GMT -5
As I look at the game recap, UCLA was favored by 11 points. Definitely an upset…but there will be many more teams who are bigger underdogs and win this year.
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Post by cmo on Sept 24, 2021 7:45:34 GMT -5
UCLA’s win over LSU in the previous gave the “upset” more cache, but as stated, it wasn’t a shocker.
Great game though.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 25, 2021 17:57:04 GMT -5
Wyoming stonewalls UCONN 2pt attempt with 0:04 left to escape Storrs with a W
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Post by cmo on Sept 27, 2021 19:23:08 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 28, 2021 0:29:37 GMT -5
No hope for Conn (or Mass) whatsoever playing as 1A independent much longer, and there isn't a 1A conference in the country that would either as FB-only member. UConn has little to no football appeal outside of Storrs. Nor, does Mass outside of Amherst. FBS football is not in their DNA. BC is the sole true FBS university in New England. BC has the tradition and the market. It is a great mid-sized university. If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Both UConn & UMass should return to their Div II roots at the FCS level in the CAA if they would be accepted. (most likely) Holy Cross is in a good place for a school of its size and academics. BC is 4-0 and noone in New England cares....they have zero interest from non alums. And FCS football is NOT D-2.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 28, 2021 4:39:24 GMT -5
UConn has little to no football appeal outside of Storrs. Nor, does Mass outside of Amherst. FBS football is not in their DNA. BC is the sole true FBS university in New England. BC has the tradition and the market. It is a great mid-sized university. If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Both UConn & UMass should return to their Div II roots at the FCS level in the CAA if they would be accepted. (most likely) Holy Cross is in a good place for a school of its size and academics. BC is 4-0 and noone in New England cares....they have zero interest from non alums. And FCS football is NOT D-2. I think he meant that UMASS and UConn were D-II in football before the creation of I-AA (while schools like HC, Colgate and the Ivies were on the DI side of the fence). The Yankee Conference was a D2 football league before the I-A/I-AA split. I believe the reference here was meant to say they should go back to those Yankee Conference roots and re-join the CAA along with UNH, Maine and URI. CAA Football is a descendant of the Yankee Conference. It's been the CAA since 2007, was A-10 Football from 1997-2006 and prior to that it was the YanCon.
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Post by rickii on Sept 28, 2021 11:48:16 GMT -5
UConn has little to no football appeal outside of Storrs. Nor, does Mass outside of Amherst. FBS football is not in their DNA. BC is the sole true FBS university in New England. BC has the tradition and the market. It is a great mid-sized university. If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Both UConn & UMass should return to their Div II roots at the FCS level in the CAA if they would be accepted. (most likely) Holy Cross is in a good place for a school of its size and academics. BC is 4-0 and noone in New England cares....they have zero interest from non alums. And FCS football is NOT D-2. Really ? One of my kids lives in Concord and says that this young coach has definately had an impact thus far in the area. It's evident the campus seems exicited with him too. And his recruiting has been a big improvement. Like Chesney, he's an energetic guy and a great interview. 44,500 last game....been awhile for a sell-out with an opponent not named Notre Dame or Clemson.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 28, 2021 12:45:59 GMT -5
UConn has little to no football appeal outside of Storrs. Nor, does Mass outside of Amherst. FBS football is not in their DNA. BC is the sole true FBS university in New England. BC has the tradition and the market. It is a great mid-sized university. If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Both UConn & UMass should return to their Div II roots at the FCS level in the CAA if they would be accepted. (most likely) Holy Cross is in a good place for a school of its size and academics. BC is 4-0 and noone in New England cares....they have zero interest from non alums. And FCS football is NOT D-2. Well aware that FCS is not Div.II. However I was merely pointing out that UConn's roots are in Div. II football and leaving FBS Div I and moving to FCS Div I would be a return to a lower level football.. In fact at one time Div II UConn was a warm-up game, 2 weeks before our storied rivalry game with BC. Fact: BC is ACC with national exposure well beyond New England. We'll see what happens in NE if the Eagles begin to fly.Peace.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 28, 2021 12:48:38 GMT -5
The Pats likely downturn may actually help BC this year and moving forward....be interesting how that plays out. May actually help HC in a Kennedyesque "rising tide lifts all boats" sort of a way.
Old enough to remember, even pre-Flutie, how BC was basically Greatahh Boston's team. That has largely disappeared (along with our support from non-HC Woo) ovah the last few decades.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 28, 2021 13:33:41 GMT -5
If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Disagree. Georgetown would have more FBS potential than Fordham, and that's not saying much. Fordham is no better than third among NYC universities by prestige (Columbia, NYU), trails NYU and St. John's in alumni, and doesn't really have a sports presence because of its underperforming basketball program (one NCAA tournament appearance since 1971). Branding a school as "The Jesuit University of New York" probably means that people don't know much about Jesuits in the first place. NYC has off-campus facilities to make it work (Met Life Stadium, UBS Arena, etc.) but the demand isn't there. Anyone clamoring for an AAC matchup between Fordham and Tulsa? That said, Fordham would be a good CAA Football candidate.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 28, 2021 14:41:31 GMT -5
If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Disagree. Georgetown would have more FBS potential than Fordham, and that's not saying much. Fordham is no better than third among NYC universities by prestige (Columbia, NYU), trails NYU and St. John's in alumni, and doesn't really have a sports presence because of its underperforming basketball program (one NCAA tournament appearance since 1971). Branding a school as "The Jesuit University of New York" probably means that people don't know much about Jesuits in the first place. NYC has off-campus facilities to make it work (Met Life Stadium, UBS Arena, etc.) but the demand isn't there. Anyone clamoring for an AAC matchup between Fordham and Tulsa? That said, Fordham would be a good CAA Football candidate. Kindly which statements do you disagree with? No comparison to G'Town. was made by me. Of course G'Town does have the 7 Blocks of Hoya. No mention of academic prestige in my post. FU is the sole Jesuit University in NYC thus in fact it is the Jesuit University of NYC. Stated FU's moving to FBS was"extremely doubtful." FU does not have great tradition? Admittedly the tradition is long past. (See Yale, Penn Harvard HC and others for long gone big time teams.) Market for college sports in pro-oriented Tri-State area is indeed questionable (See Rutgers). Ram mascot? See LA Rams. Look it up. Is not FU a great University? Clearly, they do not have the facilities. G'town is a fine U. Visited G'town friends more than once. Enjoyed the 1789. I might have gone there but for the fact that during that time the school did not have an intercollegiate football program.Saturdays in the Autumn and all that?
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 28, 2021 15:23:25 GMT -5
BC is 4-0 and noone in New England cares....they have zero interest from non alums. And FCS football is NOT D-2. Really ? One of my kids lives in Concord and says that this young coach has definately had an impact thus far in the area. It's evident the campus seems exicited with him too. And his recruiting has been a big improvement. Like Chesney, he's an energetic guy and a great interview. 44,500 last game....been awhile for a sell-out with an opponent not named Notre Dame or Clemson. The Globe sent someone named Trevor Haas (correspondent) to cover the BC/Missouri game this weekend while Boston Globe STAFFER Julian Benbow was at Harvard vs Brown on Friday. Here is a search of the Boston Globe sports twitter.....the latest mentions of Boston College twitter.com/search?q=%22Boston%20College%22%20(from%3ABGlobeSports)&src=typed_query&f=live
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 28, 2021 16:11:28 GMT -5
Why would anyone other that BC care?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 28, 2021 17:52:24 GMT -5
You'd have a better chance of winning the lottery and getting zapped by lightning on the same day than ever seeing Fordham football go FBS.
Fordham would be a good candidate for CAA Football but the CAA currently has plenty of football affiliates. If they are to expand it's going to be to add all-sports members. If Fordham was the same caliber program it is today back in 1995, they'd probably have joined the YanCon/A-10 Football and been in the CAA now.
If Fordham ever gives up on trying to compete in the Atlantic 10, I could see them joining CAA for all sports. But optimism is high with their new MBB head coaching hire (Kyle Neptune, Lehigh '06), so that's at least another 4-5 years away.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 28, 2021 18:06:52 GMT -5
You'd have a better chance of winning the lottery and getting zapped by lightning on the same day than ever seeing Fordham football go FBS. Fordham would be a good candidate for CAA Football but the CAA currently has plenty of football affiliates. If they are to expand it's going to be to add all-sports members. If Fordham was the same caliber program it is today back in 1995, they'd probably have joined the YanCon/A-10 Football and been in the CAA now. If Fordham ever gives up on trying to compete in the Atlantic 10, I could see them joining CAA for all sports. But optimism is high with their new MBB head coaching hire (Kyle Neptune, Lehigh '06), so that's at least another 4-5 years away. Optimism has been high with every new FU coach since Spring Bob Armani Pants (aka Bob Hill).
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 28, 2021 18:08:36 GMT -5
If Fordham ever wanted to move to the FBS (extremely doubtful), they too have the great tradition and market to succeed. The Rams mascot at Fordham is one of the great mascots in college football. And, it is truly a great university,"The Jesuit University off NYC." Unfortunately, they don't have the facilities nor the space at this time. Nor, does there appear to be any added benefit with this move. Disagree. Georgetown would have more FBS potential than Fordham, and that's not saying much. Fordham is no better than third among NYC universities by prestige (Columbia, NYU), trails NYU and St. John's in alumni, and doesn't really have a sports presence because of its underperforming basketball program (one NCAA tournament appearance since 1971). Branding a school as "The Jesuit University of New York" probably means that people don't know much about Jesuits in the first place. NYC has off-campus facilities to make it work (Met Life Stadium, UBS Arena, etc.) but the demand isn't there. Anyone clamoring for an AAC matchup between Fordham and Tulsa? That said, Fordham would be a good CAA Football candidate. Yes, in an alternate universe where the Hoyas had continued to play football post-WWII at the level of Rice and Tulane, as opposed to the level of Fordham and Bucknell, Georgetown would have been a great candidate to replace Maryland in the ACC.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 28, 2021 18:24:20 GMT -5
Really ? One of my kids lives in Concord and says that this young coach has definately had an impact thus far in the area. It's evident the campus seems exicited with him too. And his recruiting has been a big improvement. Like Chesney, he's an energetic guy and a great interview. 44,500 last game....been awhile for a sell-out with an opponent not named Notre Dame or Clemson. The Globe sent someone named Trevor Haas (correspondent) to cover the BC/Missouri game this weekend while Boston Globe STAFFER Julian Benbow was at Harvard vs Brown on Friday. Here is a search of the Boston Globe sports twitter.....the latest mentions of Boston College twitter.com/search?q=%22Boston%20College%22%20(from%3ABGlobeSports)&src=typed_query&f=liveAnd no one reads the Globe so who gives a rat's ass. Mizzou-BC was on ESPN 2. What TV station was Brown-Harvard on?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 28, 2021 19:17:48 GMT -5
The Pats likely downturn may actually help BC this year and moving forward....be interesting how that plays out. May actually help HC in a Kennedyesque "rising tide lifts all boats" sort of a way. Old enough to remember, even pre-Flutie, how BC was basically Greatahh Boston's team. That has largely disappeared (along with our support from non-HC Woo) ovah the last few decades. The Pats have fallen off the radar screen. No interest at all detected for this weekend's game. They are playing some out of conference team.
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