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Post by hc2020 on Sept 8, 2021 9:30:15 GMT -5
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bpob55
Crusader Century Club
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Post by bpob55 on Sept 8, 2021 9:33:51 GMT -5
Children under the age of 12 do not need to provide proof of vaccination or proof of a negative COVID-19 test for entry, but they will be required to wear a face covering while attending any indoor or outdoor Holy Cross event.
Attendees 12 years of age and older will be required to present proof of full vaccination confirming the visitor is at least two weeks past the final dose of any WHO-approved vaccine by presenting a CDC COVID-19 vaccination card (digital or physical) or by presenting a verified digital vaccine card from The Airside App or VaxYes. (Please note, visitors should enroll at least 24 hours prior to arrival on campus to ensure admission.)
For guests who are unvaccinated or who cannot provide proof of full vaccination, documentation of a negative COVID-19 PCR test taken within 72 hours of the event or a negative COVID-19 antigen test taken within 24 hours of the event will be required. A test result must be in the form of written medical documentation (physical or digital) and the documentation must include full name, test result, type of test, entity issuing the result and the specimen collection date.
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Post by deep Purple on Sept 8, 2021 10:07:07 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people?
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Post by alum on Sept 8, 2021 10:14:40 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people? Would you invite someone to your house who tested positive the day before even if you had been vaccinated? THey don't require everyone to have a test because they recognize that the risk of a vaccinated person being positive or spreading the virus is quite low. No one is attempting to eliminate all risk, but they are trying to reduce it.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 8, 2021 10:15:41 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people? May be one of those (complicated) gesture things. At the same time, masking the little kiddies outdoors might strike some as a bit, you know, much.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2021 10:19:24 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people? Holy Cross is experiencing an outbreak of infections among the students, all but one of whom are fully vaccinated. The sources of this outbreak are off-campus social gatherings. The number of positive tests over the past five days, including today, is over 50. HC is hoping to tamp down the rate of infections by doubling up on testing. All students, whether vaccinated or not, are being tested twice a week.
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Post by deep Purple on Sept 8, 2021 10:20:36 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people? Would you invite someone to your house who tested positive the day before even if you had been vaccinated? THey don't require everyone to have a test because they recognize that the risk of a vaccinated person being positive or spreading the virus is quite low. No one is attempting to eliminate all risk, but they are trying to reduce it. I am vaccinated and would have no problem inviting someone who tested positive the day before. I have no problem with it because I'm vaccinated.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 8, 2021 10:29:12 GMT -5
Very few people had masks on at UCONN and across the country at games.
I agree you should have to show vaccine and it should not be hard to social distance at Fitton.
I just feel like the vaccinated people are still being penalized for people that won't get vaccinated.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2021 10:31:05 GMT -5
Would you invite someone to your house who tested positive the day before even if you had been vaccinated? THey don't require everyone to have a test because they recognize that the risk of a vaccinated person being positive or spreading the virus is quite low. No one is attempting to eliminate all risk, but they are trying to reduce it. I am vaccinated and would have no problem inviting someone who tested positive the day before. I have no problem with it because I'm vaccinated. Being vaccinated does not confer absolute immunity. There is no vaccine that confers absolute immunity. See: www.mass.gov/doc/weekly-report-covid-19-cases-in-vaccinated-individuals-september-7-2021/downloadIn MA, 0.53 percent of all vaccinated individuals have been re-infected. Of those re-infected, 3% (762) have been hospitalized.
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Post by trimster on Sept 8, 2021 10:34:07 GMT -5
Would you invite someone to your house who tested positive the day before even if you had been vaccinated? THey don't require everyone to have a test because they recognize that the risk of a vaccinated person being positive or spreading the virus is quite low. No one is attempting to eliminate all risk, but they are trying to reduce it. I am vaccinated and would have no problem inviting someone who tested positive the day before. I have no problem with it because I'm vaccinated. The thing that concerns me is there is a time limit that I don’t think has been nailed down, on how long the vaccines work. I renewed my men’s hoop tix the other day gambling that COVID won’t be raging in 3-4 months and I will have gotten a booster shot by Thanksgiving or Christmas.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 10:35:04 GMT -5
Here we go again...... Best to stick strictly to policy regarding athletic events in order not to get censured or double secret probation. 😊
Fordham policy does not allow children’s under 12. If you are planning on going to the HC-Fordham game on November 13, 2021 at Rose Hill, adolescents cannot attend.
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Post by Tom on Sept 8, 2021 10:35:22 GMT -5
What's the point of this? Is it to protect the vaccinated people from the unvaccinated people? Holy Cross is experiencing an outbreak of infections among the students, all but one of whom are fully vaccinated. The sources of this outbreak are off-campus social gatherings. The "promise" of the vaccination, as I understand it, is that you won't go to hospital or die. Not that you wouldn't get it. I am hopeful that none of these infected students get so sick as to need hospitalization. In all fairness, I might have COVID. I am vaccinated, I feel fine, I am not aware of a close contact. I see no need to get a test. If for some reason I did get a test, given the current climate, I can't say for 100 percent certain that I would be negative
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 8, 2021 10:37:44 GMT -5
This looks like a thread that'll have the brakes put on it soon due to the polarity of opinions on this subject.
If I go to the game, I can prove my 2 jabs but would still wear a mask. Maybe due to my 42 year insurance career where the whole idea is to avoid risk, I am a "belt & suspenders" guy about many things mostly financial and medical. Though I am very unlikely to get covid and even less likely to get a severe case/die*, I basically don't want to get even a mild case. To me, I'll be wearing a mask if I am at Fitton.
* being 70+ and diabetic, it'd be just my luck to be one of the few breakout cases that turn severe. why chance it?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2021 10:49:34 GMT -5
With respect to the highly contagious Delta variant, and assuming a person is fully vaccinated with an mRNA vaccine (not the J&J vaccine), studies have shown that a fully vaccinated individual is quite contagious over about a 24 hour period. This 24 hour period occurs before the immune system, alerted to the presence of the virus, kicks in and knocks down the virus. The risk of a fully vaccinated individual being contagious drops markedly once there is an immune response. See: www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/delta-variant.html
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Post by hcpride on Sept 8, 2021 10:56:31 GMT -5
Can't say I am surprised to see some new restrictions from HC - Did hear tut-tutting from the usual suspects regarding the displays of normalcy at numerous and nationally televised college football venues.
Eating a hot dog at the SBU football game (unmasked!) last weekend I was wondering if there was a greater chance of choking on that thing and dying or catching covid at the game and subsequently dying of it. I figure the drive over was more risky than both those activities and there is always the chance of falling out of the stands.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 11:12:56 GMT -5
Going skydiving to celebrate your next birthday?
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Post by hcpride on Sept 8, 2021 11:15:55 GMT -5
Going skydiving to celebrate your next birthday? LOL. Not at a football game. Between the hotdog, deadly outdoor covid transmission, the high stands, and the drive over I can only take so many risks during a game.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 11:21:11 GMT -5
Going skydiving to celebrate your next birthday? LOL. Not at a football game. Between the hotdog, deadly outdoor covid transmission, the high stands, and the drive over I can only take so many risks during a game. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 8, 2021 11:24:01 GMT -5
It's pretty irresponsible of Holy Cross to be sponsoring this game of combat outdoors as those on the field may become seriously injured.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 8, 2021 11:49:00 GMT -5
Hopefully the winter seasons will be over before they start requiring #3 which has dumpster fire written all over it.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 8, 2021 12:09:50 GMT -5
Here we go again...... Best to stick strictly to policy regarding athletic events in order not to get censured or double secret probation. 😊 Fordham policy that does not allow children’s under 12. If you are planning on going to the HC-Fordham game on November 13, 2021 at Rose Hill, adolescents cannot attend. Confusing You first state that children under 12 cannot attend. Then you write that adolescents(presumably teens) cannot attend
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Post by Ray on Sept 8, 2021 12:17:58 GMT -5
Eating a hot dog at the SBU football game (unmasked!) last weekend I was wondering if there was a greater chance of choking on that thing and dying or catching covid at the game and subsequently dying of it. I figure the drive over was more risky than both those activities and there is always the chance of falling out of the stands. Yeah, but what about the risk of you getting infected and not dying from it, but getting mildly ill thanks to your vax status... but also being contagious before you exhibit symptoms, and spreading the virus to someone else who does get very sick or dies?
Yes, it's absolutely tiresome that the burden continues to be on the vaccinated to adhere to best practices because the unvaccinated won't do so. But my risk vector as a vaccinated person is way less about myself getting seriously ill at this point, and way more about my unvaccinated kids or someone else getting very sick (or worse).
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Post by Tom on Sept 8, 2021 12:44:35 GMT -5
going down a slightly different path. but still on the topic of going to the game either Saturday or at Fordham. . .
What 12 year old vaccinated kid has a photo ID?
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 8, 2021 12:49:30 GMT -5
They can get a fake photo driver’s license at the same place they can get a fake vaccination card.😉😊
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 8, 2021 14:05:12 GMT -5
going down a slightly different path. but still on the topic of going to the game either Saturday or at Fordham. . . What 12 year old vaccinated kid has a photo ID? They can substitute a report card with at least one A on it.
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