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Post by DiMarz on Sept 8, 2021 19:16:48 GMT -5
going down a slightly different path. but still on the topic of going to the game either Saturday or at Fordham. . . What 12 year old vaccinated kid has a photo ID? The release doesn't ask for a photo ID for a 12 year old, just proof of vaccination..and no mask is required....
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 19:18:11 GMT -5
Because they are doctors Lawyers Politicians They each view it through a specialty lend..,, Unfortunately, many do not have an informed specialty, just their Ill informed opinion without empirical observation and longitudinal data to form irrefutable evidentiary information.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 8, 2021 19:26:09 GMT -5
Luckily, we are no longer in the grip of a lethal pandemic. Oops, my bad. Watching a bit of the "fabulous" vid & reading some of the "brilliant" commentary I had assumed the pandemic was over. Guess I was wrong. And, the band played on.
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Post by gks on Sept 8, 2021 19:32:21 GMT -5
Funny, this past weekend I saw the soon to be gone AD on the sidelines in CT sans mask...talking to people and enjoying the game.
Now he deems to come down with rules that last week didn't exist?
I guess COVID only is inside the property limits of Holy Cross.
The inconsistencies are maddening.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 8, 2021 19:50:41 GMT -5
Well, OK then, that qualifies her to make judgments about a pandemic on an equal footing with Fauci, or Francis Collins, or Deborah Birx, or Rochelle Walensky, or Scott Gottlieb or . . . . . . Impressive list. Go ahead and spell the name of the Doc from Brown University.😂
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 8, 2021 19:51:23 GMT -5
Funny, this past weekend I saw the soon to be gone AD on the sidelines in CT sans mask...talking to people and enjoying the game. Now he deems to come down with rules that last week didn't exist? I guess COVID only is inside the property limits of Holy Cross. The inconsistencies are maddening. There are no rules requiring the use of facemasks at outdoor athletic events at HC for the vaccinated or unvaccinated, EXCEPT for those under the age of 12. So where is the maddening inconsistency?
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 8, 2021 20:16:21 GMT -5
LS, I assume you mean Ashish Jha. The big challenge is to remember his first name. He's new to Brown University by way of Harvard. My wife worked at Brown for a while and was receptionist for the president.
Perhaps I haven't been paying as much attention as some others here but the medical experts I've heard seem to be pretty consistent on the broad strokes:
1. get vaccinated as all three are extremely effective in preventing serious illness and death and the adverse side effects are extremely rare 2. wear a mask, particularly an N-95 or KN-95 mask. The better the mask, the better the protection 3. maintain social distancing whenever possible 4. outside is better than inside but crowds diminish that advantage 5.areas of high vaccination rates correlate with lower rates of infection/hospitalizations/death. 6. the inverse is true for states and communities with low vaccination rates 7. if you've been vaccinated, you can still catch covid (and why you should still wear a mask) and can also spread the disease. You are just not as likely to get severely ill.
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Post by Tom on Sept 8, 2021 20:18:12 GMT -5
going down a slightly different path. but still on the topic of going to the game either Saturday or at Fordham. . . What 12 year old vaccinated kid has a photo ID? The release doesn't ask for a photo ID for a 12 year old, just proof of vaccination..and no mask is required.... See my highlights above. Everyone age 12 and older must present a valid form of photo ID on Saturday
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Post by sader81 on Sept 8, 2021 20:18:33 GMT -5
Like listening to nails on a chalk board, or C&W or Hip Hop ☹️😤😳 “Does not even know if HC has football”....The humor escapes me. 😤😡 Boy, that was a tiresome, inaccurate waste of time. "Like listening to nails on a chalk board", indeed! Despite being a news junkie, over the past year I have been unable to watch any of the news networks. Too much cheerleading for whichever side they support and no real journalism. Fox Business, while it leans right, attempts to report the other side and at least gives a slightly less unbalanced view of the news. Kennedy’s bizarre, quirky act tries, I guess, to give a bit of humor to a mundane mostly business news. Her act is an acquired taste, which I have been unable to fully appreciate. I caught her rant on Fauci while channel surfing, and actually found it entertaining. After all, HC’s big win over UConn took a back seat to Edsall’s resignation, without any credit to the team’s performance. I remember a lawyer acquaintance who once said after being indicted for insider trading: ”it doesn’t matter why your name is in the paper, it’s only important that your name is in the paper!”
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Post by timholycross on Sept 8, 2021 20:24:56 GMT -5
Luckily, we are no longer in the grip of a lethal pandemic. Oops, my bad. Watching a bit of the "fabulous" vid & reading some of the "brilliant" commentary I had assumed the pandemic was over. Guess I was wrong. And, the band played on. Can't wait to hear the words of wisdom from our president tomorrow night. Supposed to give a talk on the very subject.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 20:41:52 GMT -5
going down a slightly different path. but still on the topic of going to the game either Saturday or at Fordham. . . What 12 year old vaccinated kid has a photo ID? The release doesn't ask for a photo ID for a 12 year old, just proof of vaccination..and no mask is required.... Students in the Evergreen School District my granddaughters attend have Photo ID’s issued for Middle School, starting at grade 6, probably most at age 11, unless you red shirt your kid in grammar school. They probably would issue at earlier grades, but the kids would constantly leave them at home or on the play ground at recess.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 8, 2021 20:50:53 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2021 21:03:05 GMT -5
“All fans who wish to attend Merrimack athletic events on campus must visit this link (https://merrimackathletics.universitytickets.com) to make their reservation and acknowledge vaccination status.”
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Post by efg72 on Sept 8, 2021 21:12:47 GMT -5
Because they are doctors Lawyers Politicians They each view it through a specialty lend..,, Unfortunately, many do not have an informed specialty, just their Ill informed opinion without empirical observation and longitudinal data to form irrefutable evidentiary information. Agree never said they were right just looking at it from their perspective-right or wrong
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 8, 2021 21:24:06 GMT -5
“All fans who wish to attend Merrimack athletic events on campus must visit this link (https://merrimackathletics.universitytickets.com) to make their reservation and acknowledge vaccination status.” Beep, this is the Merrimack athletics automated reservation service. Beep, you have zero people ahead of you. Beep.🤣
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Post by gks on Sept 9, 2021 6:38:20 GMT -5
Funny, this past weekend I saw the soon to be gone AD on the sidelines in CT sans mask...talking to people and enjoying the game. Now he deems to come down with rules that last week didn't exist? I guess COVID only is inside the property limits of Holy Cross. The inconsistencies are maddening. There are no rules requiring the use of facemasks at outdoor athletic events at HC for the vaccinated or unvaccinated, EXCEPT for those under the age of 12. So where is the maddening inconsistency? Two to three miles down the road Polar Park does not require proof of vaccination. No inconsistency? This is move by colleges to show how 'careful' they are. They should just tell people to stay away.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Sept 9, 2021 6:58:43 GMT -5
You are free to choose that as an option. The rest of us will just follow the rules and attend the game.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 9, 2021 7:17:34 GMT -5
GKS, with all due respect, in my mind there is a difference between an organization in which people go to a one-and-done event (Polar Park) and one in which 2,500-3,000 residents are on campus for months on end. If Holy Cross owned Polar Park or the folks at Polar Park owned Holy Cross, that would be an inconsistency.
No doubt the College is trying to show how careful they are, which is probably a relief for many parents if not the students themselves who may feel they are invulnerable.
And as ND said above, all have the option of staying away while those who do want to attend know what the rules and protocols will be.
Bottom line is as long as there is a large core group of Americans that are unwilling to be vaccinated for whatever reason, this pandemic is going to linger and these kinds of restrictions will continue. For those who have legitimate medical concerns about getting a vaccination, they have my sympathy. For those who ignorantly think that they don't need one because "I'll never get it, I'm healthy," they also have my sympathy and hope somehow they will get educated quickly for their sakes and their communities. For those who won't take the vaccine simply because they want to make some kind of political statement, that is their right but won't get any sympathy from me - not that they are looking for it.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 9, 2021 7:29:15 GMT -5
Bottom line is as long as there is a large core group of Americans that are unwilling to be vaccinated for whatever reason, this pandemic is going to linger and these kinds of restrictions will continue. For those who have legitimate medical concerns about getting a vaccination, they have my sympathy. For those who ignorantly think that they don't need one because "I'll never get it, I'm healthy," they also have my sympathy and hope somehow they will get educated quickly for their sakes and their communities. For those who won't take the vaccine simply because they want to make some kind of political statement, that is their right but won't get any sympathy from me - not that they are looking for it. It’s really easy to forget the fact that 92.4 percent of America’s seniors have at least one shot, 75 percent of all American adults have at least one shot, and more than 73 percent of all eligible Americans have at least one shot. When you see the glum statement that “only 62.5 percent of Americans have one shot,” that figure includes the roughly 50 million American children age eleven and younger who can’t get vaccinated yet.
www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/few-of-our-covid-19-policies-make-any-sense/?utm_source=recirc-desktop&utm_medium=homepage&utm_campaign=river&utm_content=featured-content-trending&utm_term=third
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Post by Tom on Sept 9, 2021 7:59:38 GMT -5
A couple of random thoughts
- I E-mailed the athletic department and asked if a photo of a vaccine card on my phone was acceptable. I got a fairly quick response:
Personally I find the card an awkward size. A little too big to fit neatly in my wallet.
- Without getting into the merits of the new policy itself, I like the plan to implement it. Having various stations, not all at the gates, to get wristbands works for me. A decent percentage of fans do some level of tailgating. They'll have the option of wandering over anytime when the line looks small for the wristband and then later admittance to the game itself won't be bogged down with people on their phones with one app showing the ticket, one app showing proof of vaccination also while pulling out the wallet with the ID. We'll see how smooth it is in practice
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Post by hc6774 on Sept 9, 2021 7:59:47 GMT -5
There are no rules requiring the use of facemasks at outdoor athletic events at HC for the vaccinated or unvaccinated, EXCEPT for those under the age of 12. So where is the maddening inconsistency? Two to three miles down the road Polar Park does not require proof of vaccination. No inconsistency? This is move by colleges to show how 'careful' they are. They should just tell people to stay away. what business is the college in?
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Post by trimster on Sept 9, 2021 8:14:55 GMT -5
A couple of random thoughts - I E-mailed the athletic department and asked if a photo of a vaccine card on my phone was acceptable. I got a fairly quick response: Personally I find the card an awkward size. A little too big to fit neatly in my wallet. - Without getting into the merits of the new policy itself, I like the plan to implement it. Having various stations, not all at the gates, to get wristbands works for me. A decent percentage of fans do some level of tailgating. They'll have the option of wandering over anytime when the line looks small for the wristband and then later admittance to the game itself won't be bogged down with people on their phones with one app showing the ticket, one app showing proof of vaccination also while pulling out the wallet with the ID. We'll see how smooth it is in practice This has to be at nightmare if It has be done at a stadium with 90,000 at a game. Between the basic security check, the COVID scan and ticket scan, fans will have to get in line an hour or more before kickoff.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 9, 2021 8:29:03 GMT -5
A couple of random thoughts - I E-mailed the athletic department and asked if a photo of a vaccine card on my phone was acceptable. I got a fairly quick response: Personally I find the card an awkward size. A little too big to fit neatly in my wallet. - Without getting into the merits of the new policy itself, I like the plan to implement it. Having various stations, not all at the gates, to get wristbands works for me. A decent percentage of fans do some level of tailgating. They'll have the option of wandering over anytime when the line looks small for the wristband and then later admittance to the game itself won't be bogged down with people on their phones with one app showing the ticket, one app showing proof of vaccination also while pulling out the wallet with the ID. We'll see how smooth it is in practice This has to be at nightmare if It has be done at a stadium with 90,000 at a game. Between the basic security check, the COVID scan and ticket scan, fans will have to get in line an hour or more before kickoff. Once the booster comes on board I can imagine another complication (if the goal is to protect fans from Covid).
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:29:35 GMT -5
Personally I find the card an awkward size. A little too big to fit neatly in my wallet. - Without getting into the merits of the new policy itself, I like the plan to implement it. Having various stations, not all at the gates, to get wristbands works for me. A decent percentage of fans do some level of tailgating. They'll have the option of wandering over anytime when the line looks small for the wristband and then later admittance to the game itself won't be bogged down with people on their phones with one app showing the ticket, one app showing proof of vaccination also while pulling out the wallet with the ID. We'll see how smooth it is in practice It is like there should be an app or something that we put the info into that we could just show at the gate. Like a passport to get in....;-) I do agree the card is an awkward size.
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Post by crusader12 on Sept 9, 2021 9:44:59 GMT -5
Yah, my 2 year old will absolutely keep her mask on at all times....what a joke this is.
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