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Post by hchoops on Sept 8, 2021 18:26:09 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 9, 2021 7:26:14 GMT -5
The one school not rumored to be going to the Big 12 that I thought might get invited is Colorado State. Colorado has been one of, if not the fastest growing state in the US the last 15 years or so. And it's a market the Big 12 lost in the last round of expansion.
The addition of BYU is a great move IMO as they have national Mormon appeal and creates a natural "Holy War" rivalry with Baylor.
I think the Big 12 basically nailed it with the 4 schools they invited -- only thing I would have done differently would be to bring in Colorado State instead of Houston.
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Post by trimster on Sept 9, 2021 8:04:05 GMT -5
The one school not rumored to be going to the Big 12 that I thought might get invited is Colorado State. Colorado has been one of, if not the fastest growing state in the US the last 15 years or so. And it's a market the Big 12 lost in the last round of expansion. The addition of BYU is a great move IMO as they have national Mormon appeal and creates a natural "Holy War" rivalry with Baylor. I think the Big 12 basically nailed it with the 4 schools they invited -- only thing I would have done differently would be to bring in Colorado State instead of Houston. I read a comment from the Texas Tech AD that after the first four are added, there may be another round of expansion for the Big 12, |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 9, 2021 9:06:25 GMT -5
The one school not rumored to be going to the Big 12 that I thought might get invited is Colorado State. Colorado has been one of, if not the fastest growing state in the US the last 15 years or so. And it's a market the Big 12 lost in the last round of expansion. The addition of BYU is a great move IMO as they have national Mormon appeal and creates a natural "Holy War" rivalry with Baylor. I think the Big 12 basically nailed it with the 4 schools they invited -- only thing I would have done differently would be to bring in Colorado State instead of Houston. Houston in the 8th ranked DMA in the country, Denver is 16th. # of eyeballs on the TV's matter a lot to a conference that is losing it's two biggest draws. UH brings much more value to the BXII than CSU ever would. |
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Post by Tom on Sept 9, 2021 9:33:45 GMT -5
If you combine the DMA of Providence in with Boston (which in all fairness has a ton of overlap, so this isn't a stretch), it is larger than Houston. Maybe the Big 12 can come knocking on our door
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 9, 2021 9:51:08 GMT -5
Too darned far for any of the olympic (minor) sports.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 9, 2021 9:58:21 GMT -5
If you combine the DMA of Providence in with Boston (which in all fairness has a ton of overlap, so this isn't a stretch), it is larger than Houston. Maybe the Big 12 can come knocking on our door Well, Holy Cross beats UConn and the Boston media ignores it. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 9, 2021 9:59:46 GMT -5
If you combine the DMA of Providence in with Boston (which in all fairness has a ton of overlap, so this isn't a stretch), it is larger than Houston. Maybe the Big 12 can come knocking on our door In radio - yes, but no overlap in TV as far as media buyers and advertisers are concerned. Providence has their own network affiliates obviously, and the stations in every market around the country decide what game they will air when there are multiple to choose from in the same time slot as is on NFL Sunday afternoons. Worcester is it's own radio DMA, but in the Boston DMA for TV. This is one of the things that holds HC back from greater media coverage and interest. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 9, 2021 10:00:53 GMT -5
If you combine the DMA of Providence in with Boston (which in all fairness has a ton of overlap, so this isn't a stretch), it is larger than Houston. Maybe the Big 12 can come knocking on our door Well, Holy Cross beats UConn and the Boston media ignores it. Every Boston network TV affiliate sent out a tweet on HC's win. |
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Post by Tom on Sept 9, 2021 10:26:19 GMT -5
Obviously I was only kidding and I do not think HC should join the Big 12
I am aware that Providence is a different TV market than Boston and has multiple network affiliates. Manchester NH with its one network affiliate is part of Boston but is farther from the city than Boston. For purposes of watching sports, everyone in RI is a Red Sox fan. No reason anyone in Providence cares less about HC than anyone in Boston proper
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 9, 2021 10:35:46 GMT -5
Everyone in RI is NOT a Red Sox fan. Many (30%-40%?) are Yankees fans. I am neither but just wanted to correct the record.😊
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Post by hc87 on Sept 9, 2021 10:40:39 GMT -5
RI has a decent amount of Yankee fans or did anyway at one time.
Is Worcester the biggest metro region without a TV DMA in the country? It probably is in the Northeast anyway, right?
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 9, 2021 11:05:04 GMT -5
Well, Holy Cross beats UConn and the Boston media ignores it. Every Boston network TV affiliate sent out a tweet on HC's win. I just went through the WBZ Sports twitter, don't see a mention on there. I see a great mention of BC's victory over Colgate though twitter.com/wbzsports?s=21Here is a search of Holy Cross in the @wbz account...no mention twitter.com/search?q=holy%20cross%20(from%3Awbz)&src=typed_query&f=liveSo do tell me where you saw these tweets. I know 98.5 wasn't giving updates on Saturday with the score. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 9, 2021 11:42:04 GMT -5
This good enough for you?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 9, 2021 11:42:28 GMT -5
RI has a decent amount of Yankee fans or did anyway at one time. Is Worcester the biggest metro region without a TV DMA in the country? It probably is in the Northeast anyway, right? I believe it is. I have mentioned this issue on this board a number of times as I believe it is a significant impediment to building a following for HC's sports teams. |
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Post by timholycross on Sept 9, 2021 21:13:45 GMT -5
The one school not rumored to be going to the Big 12 that I thought might get invited is Colorado State. Colorado has been one of, if not the fastest growing state in the US the last 15 years or so. And it's a market the Big 12 lost in the last round of expansion. The addition of BYU is a great move IMO as they have national Mormon appeal and creates a natural "Holy War" rivalry with Baylor. I think the Big 12 basically nailed it with the 4 schools they invited -- only thing I would have done differently would be to bring in Colorado State instead of Houston. I read a comment from the Texas Tech AD that after the first four are added, there may be another round of expansion for the Big 12, Might be an admission that their league has a chance to lose another school or two. You best bet the Pac 12 and Big 10 are looking to grow a bit as well. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 9, 2021 22:28:04 GMT -5
This good enough for you? You said EVERY outlet....so I just found two that didn't. And every single tweet you posted is the same AP article. None of them actually covered the game. |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 9, 2021 23:34:27 GMT -5
They will if the winning continues. I think you could see a couple of TV news trucks at Polar Park for the first college FB game there...if HC can sell them on the idea. The media gets bombarded with story ideas and angles, so it helps if the HC SID and PR folks are in touch with the outlets and selling the idea.
A feature like that would be on the nightly news which has more credibility than a paid ad. Even an ad with a violin.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 10, 2021 8:27:25 GMT -5
Foley and Tower, would do us all a favor with your feuding and “take it outside?”
Thanks for your consideration.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 10, 2021 9:19:30 GMT -5
Hearing that invitations were sent to BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF
This is insanity, once again
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 10, 2021 9:27:38 GMT -5
Foley and Tower, would do us all a favor with your feuding and “take it outside?” Thanks for your consideration. Could be great halftime entertainment tomorrow at Fitton. Will it be in the Octagon? Close ups will be available for all to see on the new video board. 😂 |
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Post by timholycross on Sept 10, 2021 11:12:42 GMT -5
Hearing that invitations were sent to BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF This is insanity, once again I can't knock these places for wanting to improve their status. Of course, the reshuffling will continue, especially w/regard to the remnants of the AAC, the MWC and CUSA. |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 10, 2021 14:28:29 GMT -5
Hearing that invitations were sent to BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF This is insanity, once again Especially since imo, small geographically compact leagues are the best leagues. I don't understand why a large far flung league would make more after expenses per team than a smaller compact league. How many fans are flying to follow their team every week? And if the league is good, a network can get viewers nationally even if the teams are down the street from each other. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 10, 2021 14:55:48 GMT -5
Hearing that invitations were sent to BYU, Cincy, Houston, UCF This is insanity, once again Especially since imo, small geographically compact leagues are the best leagues. I don't understand why a large far flung league would make more after expenses per team than a smaller compact league. How many fans are flying to follow their team every week? And if the league is good, a network can get viewers nationally even if the teams are down the street from each other. BYU is a national brand with their own TV network with distribution of 65 million. |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 10, 2021 19:04:31 GMT -5
Especially since imo, small geographically compact leagues are the best leagues. I don't understand why a large far flung league would make more after expenses per team than a smaller compact league. How many fans are flying to follow their team every week? And if the league is good, a network can get viewers nationally even if the teams are down the street from each other. BYU is a national brand with their own TV network with distribution of 65 million. That obviously helps BYU but how much of the network revenue can the Non-Trinitarians in Provo swing to their Conference and all it's member schools? |
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