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Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 16, 2021 9:14:44 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind a 3rd down guy a la James White; someone able to catch a pass out of the backfield and create. I really don't see that in our backs currently. We have a Purdy good candidate for the James White role. I went with Yale 27 - HC 20 and wrote a detailed summary of my pre-game take in the Week 3 pick em’ thread. LS, you beat me to this as I also think Purdy has this potential (well done with the play on words BTW.) There have been a few comps of Purdy with Steve Silva (the HC benchmark for an All Purpose running back in this century) While Steve was ~15 lbs bigger than Tyler and an every down player in that offense, his pass catching abilities out of the backfield were unparalleled. In his All-America season (2005), he led the team with 54 receptions which was one of (if not the most) by any FCS RB in the country. What’s interesting is that his avg YPR was (only) ~7 yds per catch. However, I vividly remember how dangerous this was for opposing teams on 3rd in 4/5 yard situations. It was often a designed pass to Steve out of the backfield (and he almost always made the first guy miss) or a check down to him by John O’Neil for a first down. I also see some of this ability and athleticism in Tyler. Hopefully, this develops as the season goes on (without it being obvious when Tyler’s in the game in certain situations as other teams will scout this on film and adjust.) What made Steve so special is that there were so many different ways to get him the ball and defenses just had to react in real time.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 16, 2021 10:58:17 GMT -5
Looking forward to what HC can do with a healthy Oliver and Purdy available.
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Post by alum on Sept 16, 2021 11:24:46 GMT -5
HC 31 Yale 30. Last second FG by Derek Ng.
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Sept 16, 2021 11:31:44 GMT -5
Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Sept 16, 2021 11:31:44 GMT -5
We have a Purdy good candidate for the James White role. I went with Yale 27 - HC 20 and wrote a detailed summary of my pre-game take in the Week 3 pick em’ thread. LS, you beat me to this as I also think Purdy has this potential (well done with the play on words BTW.) There have been a few comps of Purdy with Steve Silva (the HC benchmark for an All Purpose running back in this century) While Steve was ~15 lbs bigger than Tyler and an every down player in that offense, his pass catching abilities out of the backfield were unparalleled. In his All-America season (2005), he led the team with 54 receptions which was one of (if not the most) by any FCS RB in the country. What’s interesting is that his avg YPR was (only) ~7 yds per catch. However, I vividly remember how dangerous this was for opposing teams on 3rd in 4/5 yard situations. It was often a designed pass to Steve out of the backfield (and he almost always made the first guy miss) or a check down to him by John O’Neil for a first down. I also see some of this ability and athleticism in Tyler. Hopefully, this develops as the season goes on (without it being obvious when Tyler’s in the game in certain situations as other teams will scout this on film and adjust.) What made Steve so special is that there were so many different ways to get him the ball and defenses just had to react in real time.
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Sept 16, 2021 11:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Sept 16, 2021 11:34:07 GMT -5
As you likely recall Steve Silva's younger brother played on Sunday's for the Colts...via Boston College. I was thinking of Brendan Flaherty in that RB pass catching mode, but he spent more if not the majority of his time at WR.
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Sept 16, 2021 15:04:49 GMT -5
Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 16, 2021 15:04:49 GMT -5
As you likely recall Steve Silva's younger brother played on Sunday's for the Colts...via Boston College. I was thinking of Brendan Flaherty in that RB pass catching mode, but he spent more if not the majority of his time at WR. Yes I spent lots of time with Jamie via Steve. Jamie was a Consensus All America in 2008 and finalist for the Jim Thorpe award (runner-up to Malcolm Jenkins.) He was the Special Teams warrior for the Colts in his 3 years with them a played a good amount of time as the 5th DB in their nickel and dime packages. He blew out his knee in training camp in his 4th year and decided to hang em up vs try a comeback. Good call on Flaherty as he started his career at RB but settled into WR fairly quickly if I recall. He definitely played exclusively receiver all of his Junior and Senior seasons and maybe even Sophomore. On the short list for several HC receiving records if I’m not mistaken. Had great hands and just a knack for getting open even though he had more of the build of an RB.
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Sept 16, 2021 15:32:28 GMT -5
Post by Tom on Sept 16, 2021 15:32:28 GMT -5
There was a local kid named Jay Brunelle at St Johns high school who was a stud receiver and signed with Notre Dame. Even left St Johns early and went to South Bend in what would have been 2nd semester of his senior year in high school. They were high on that kid. He has transferred to Yale and with no more waiting period, he will be in uniform on Saturday
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Sept 16, 2021 15:46:40 GMT -5
Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 16, 2021 15:46:40 GMT -5
Brendan holds the record for most receptions in one season with 106, Ari Confessor is well behind with 90 for second highest. Brendan is second to Mike Fess for career receptions 197 vs 209 for Fess
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Sept 16, 2021 16:01:02 GMT -5
Post by hcpride on Sept 16, 2021 16:01:02 GMT -5
There was a local kid named Jay Brunelle at St Johns high school who was a stud receiver and signed with Notre Dame. Even left St Johns early and went to South Bend in what would have been 2nd semester of his senior year in high school. They were high on that kid. He has transferred to Yale and with no more waiting period, he will be in uniform on Saturday I read about his departure from South Bend and he is one of many talented guys on their roster: The Paxton (Mass.) Saint John's high school talent arrived at Notre Dame in Jan. 2020. He chose the Fighting Irish over scholarship offers from Michigan, UCLA, Boston College, Wake Forest, West Virginia and many others. He earned his offer from Notre Dame following a stellar performance at camp and was recruited heavily after that... If running back Zane Dudek is fully recovered (it has been a long time so I imagine so) we'll see an outstanding back with legit speed in the backfield. If you consider a high school 10.8 100M to be legit speed. Their QB is quite a passer (or was before the long layoff) so if things are in synch (after the long layoff) we'll have our hands full on D.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 16, 2021 18:41:58 GMT -5
Dudek is outstanding. I was thinking he had graduated but,apparently, no such luck...
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 16, 2021 19:58:00 GMT -5
Zane Dudek is still there? Ugh.
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Sept 16, 2021 20:25:08 GMT -5
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Post by kaftan12 on Sept 16, 2021 20:25:08 GMT -5
Yale 24 HC 16. Not much change in offense. Defense will rebound will continue to create turnovers.
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Sept 16, 2021 21:54:28 GMT -5
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 16, 2021 21:54:28 GMT -5
But Ballantyne said that fans can expect to have an experience at the Bowl that mirrors what it looked and felt like two years ago. He declined to comment on expected attendance for the game this weekend.
“As of this moment, the fan experience will stay the same as where it was in 2019,” Ballantyne said. “We always continue to look for ways to improve on the fan experience throughout the season and then into the next year.”
5,684 fans attended Yale’s home opener against Holy Cross in September 2019.
Yale News ^
Expected attendance anybody? Making the trip with 6 friends. Anybody else going?
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Sept 16, 2021 22:00:58 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Sept 16, 2021 22:00:58 GMT -5
There was a local kid named Jay Brunelle at St Johns high school who was a stud receiver and signed with Notre Dame. Even left St Johns early and went to South Bend in what would have been 2nd semester of his senior year in high school. They were high on that kid. He has transferred to Yale and with no more waiting period, he will be in uniform on Saturday I read about his departure from South Bend and he is one of many talented guys on their roster: The Paxton (Mass.) Saint John's high school talent arrived at Notre Dame in Jan. 2020. He chose the Fighting Irish over scholarship offers from Michigan, UCLA, Boston College, Wake Forest, West Virginia and many others. He earned his offer from Notre Dame following a stellar performance at camp and was recruited heavily after that... If running back Zane Dudek is fully recovered (it has been a long time so I imagine so) we'll see an outstanding back with legit speed in the backfield. If you consider a high school 10.8 100M to be legit speed. Their QB is quite a passer (or was before the long layoff) so if things are in synch (after the long layoff) we'll have our hands full on D. QB was Kurt Rawlings, he was a senior in 2019. About 30 or so passes thrown by his backups, O'Connor and Grooms.
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Sept 16, 2021 23:56:04 GMT -5
Post by bfoley82 on Sept 16, 2021 23:56:04 GMT -5
I read about his departure from South Bend and he is one of many talented guys on their roster: The Paxton (Mass.) Saint John's high school talent arrived at Notre Dame in Jan. 2020. He chose the Fighting Irish over scholarship offers from Michigan, UCLA, Boston College, Wake Forest, West Virginia and many others. He earned his offer from Notre Dame following a stellar performance at camp and was recruited heavily after that... If running back Zane Dudek is fully recovered (it has been a long time so I imagine so) we'll see an outstanding back with legit speed in the backfield. If you consider a high school 10.8 100M to be legit speed. Their QB is quite a passer (or was before the long layoff) so if things are in synch (after the long layoff) we'll have our hands full on D. QB was Kurt Rawlings, he was a senior in 2019. About 30 or so passes thrown by his backups, O'Connor and Grooms. Nolan Grooms played late against Columbia in 2019 and was very good at running the ball (it was a blowout). He took the entire 2020-2021 school year off as he is only listed as a sophomore. No clue who they expect to start. yalebulldogs.com/sports/football/roster/nolan-grooms/17064
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Sept 17, 2021 3:11:24 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Sept 17, 2021 3:11:24 GMT -5
QB was Kurt Rawlings, he was a senior in 2019. About 30 or so passes thrown by his backups, O'Connor and Grooms. Nolan Grooms played late against Columbia in 2019 and was very good at running the ball (it was a blowout). He took the entire 2020-2021 school year off as he is only listed as a sophomore. No clue who they expect to start. yalebulldogs.com/sports/football/roster/nolan-grooms/17064Gotta look at 2018 - When Rawlings went down O’Connor stepped in and lit it up: 2018: Ivy League Rookie of the Year… New Haven Gridiron Club Rookie of the Year… Stepped in as starter against Brown after injury to Kurt Rawlings… Won Ivy League co-Player of the Week, Ivy League Rookie of the Week, College Sports Madness Player of the Week after throwing 30 of 38 for 436 yards and 4 TDs against Brown… Won Ivy League Rookie of the Week after throwing for 465 yards and 3 TDs against Princeton… Broke school passing record with 465 passing yards in Princeton game… Threw for 1,229 yards and 8 TDs in 3 games as starter… Charlie Loftus Award for most valuable first-year (Yale) (I was assuming he’d start against us when I noted his passing game but I guess I should not assume. He’s pro-style while Grooms is dual-threat. yalefb.com/ guesses (scroll to QB section) O’Connor as the starter.)
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Post by alum on Sept 17, 2021 4:53:25 GMT -5
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Sept 17, 2021 7:15:40 GMT -5
Post by rgs318 on Sept 17, 2021 7:15:40 GMT -5
The folks at Yale did a nice job in summarizing each of the teams who face off this weekend. Thanks for posting this.
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Sept 17, 2021 7:53:41 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Sept 17, 2021 7:53:41 GMT -5
Game preview/depth chart still not on the website.
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Sept 17, 2021 7:57:24 GMT -5
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Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 17, 2021 7:57:24 GMT -5
Overall, good summary by the YDN (only mistake is that Dobbs has 29 tackles through two games and not 11) The pre-game article posted on the Yale website was fairly poor and had several mistakes including saying that HC hasn’t won at the Yale Bowl since 1982. I was at the 2005 game when we beat them there.
After seeing Yale’s two deep and doing a bit more due diligence, I think Yale is right to be favored by 14 (Basset line) instead of 7 (where I and Massey had them). We are going to have to play a near flawless game to win. I think the folks banking on Yale shaking off the “rust” are kidding themselves. I’d love to be wrong but I don’t think you are going to see them missing blocking assignments, tackles or open receivers (all indicators of rust). It’s on us to straight up beat them, they aren’t going to beat themselves.
Also, looks like Safety Terrell Prince is out indefinitely since he’s off our two deep. Argos and Burns likely to get a majority of those snaps like last week. Too bad because Prince was very good player against the run IMO (when healthy and in shape)
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Sept 17, 2021 8:02:52 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Sept 17, 2021 8:02:52 GMT -5
Open to Correction: Yale's D&O lines have generally dominated HC in the games I've seen. Yale's lines have been bigger and stronger. Also, Yale apparently has a lot of talent at the skills positions. The running game is a vital cog in HC's offense. HC's O line has not consistently opened up the running game. The D line has been effective in limiting runs between the tackles. However, the D has been vulnerable to runs to the outside. Need to hold the corners. Alas, the D has not generated a consistent, effective pass rush. The D backfield has been vulnerable to the pass The linebacking corps has been HC's most effective group. Expect Yale's strengths on both sides of the ball to be a big problem for HC. Obviously, hope I'm wrong.
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Sept 17, 2021 8:07:06 GMT -5
Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 17, 2021 8:07:06 GMT -5
I concur with all that and to my point about Prince being out indefinitely… He was very effective at “setting the edge” against the run in the UCONN game which is why we didn’t give up a run play more than 10 yds in that game.
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Sept 17, 2021 9:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 17, 2021 9:25:52 GMT -5
Open to Correction: Yale's D&O lines have generally dominated HC in the games I've seen. Yale's lines have been bigger and stronger. Also, Yale apparently has a lot of talent at the skills positions. The running game is a vital cog in HC's offense. HC's O line has not consistently opened up the running game. The D line has been effective in limiting runs between the tackles. However, the D has been vulnerable to runs to the outside. Need to hold the corners. Alas, the D has not generated a consistent, effective pass rush. The D backfield has been vulnerable to the pass The linebacking corps has been HC's most effective group. Expect Yale's strengths on both sides of the ball to be a big problem for HC. Obviously, hope I'm wrong. Merrimack was a big problem for Holy Cross so Yale should be no different
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 17, 2021 9:34:41 GMT -5
Open to Correction: Yale's D&O lines have generally dominated HC in the games I've seen. Yale's lines have been bigger and stronger. Also, Yale apparently has a lot of talent at the skills positions. The running game is a vital cog in HC's offense. HC's O line has not consistently opened up the running game. The D line has been effective in limiting runs between the tackles. However, the D has been vulnerable to runs to the outside. Need to hold the corners. Alas, the D has not generated a consistent, effective pass rush. The D backfield has been vulnerable to the pass The linebacking corps has been HC's most effective group. Expect Yale's strengths on both sides of the ball to be a big problem for HC. Obviously, hope I'm wrong. Merrimack was a big problem for Holy Cross so Yale should be no different I see no problem. Cross all day in a big way! Sluka gets right back on track!
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Sept 17, 2021 11:21:43 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on Sept 17, 2021 11:21:43 GMT -5
I concur with all that and to my point about Prince being out indefinitely… He was very effective at “setting the edge” against the run in the UCONN game which is why we didn’t give up a run play more than 10 yds in that game. I think Prince is out with COVID. That would likely bump Hunter Burns up, with Jonathan Young and/or Joe Rivers as the likely backups. I would not put too much stock in the two-deep. It is a rather fluid process and is subject to change.
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