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Post by billyball on Sept 19, 2021 18:12:56 GMT -5
Has always struggled but seems to have slipped to a nadir
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 19, 2021 18:45:16 GMT -5
Not enough local kids on the team...as in none? Certainly none of the team members gave Holy Cross a "hometown discount" in the recruiting process.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 19, 2021 19:08:05 GMT -5
Not enough local kids on the team...as in none? Certainly none of the team members gave Holy Cross a "hometown discount" in the recruiting process. Why would you? The best high school players are in California and in the Midwest...
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Post by bison137 on Sept 19, 2021 19:35:33 GMT -5
Not enough local kids on the team...as in none? Certainly none of the team members gave Holy Cross a "hometown discount" in the recruiting process. Why would you? The best high school players are in California and in the Midwest... And Texas. In the rankings put out by the American Volleyball Coaches Association, three of the nation’s top eight teams are from Texas.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 19, 2021 20:02:34 GMT -5
After a decent spring season we have returned to futility - to lose by 3 lopsided sets vs Lafayette is a very bad omen - record now 1-12 (0-2 PL)
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Post by timholycross on Sept 19, 2021 21:03:38 GMT -5
HS volleyball in Mass. is terrible as a general rule.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 19, 2021 21:37:22 GMT -5
HS volleyball in Mass. is terrible as a general rule. I believe all three of you, especially Bison who I am convinced writes the answers for "Jeopardy," but why is the team's performance so poor when all of the roster is from areas stronger in VB than our own region? And to me, the "hometown discount" means that if someone has to go to the other side of the country to attend a school that most of their peers have never heard of, you are not going to get the best athletes from that area. Isn't the sweet spot a college location where you can move out of the house and live on campus but also close enough regionally that your family, friends and you yourself have heard of the school and your people can see you play and you can go home easily? Isn't that where a college can get it's highest value in the recruiting competition? Understanding that poor level of play locally can outweigh regional recruiting advantage in specific sports. Which begs another question. What sports are Massachusetts, New England and the NY metro area strong in? Not too many it seems.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 19, 2021 21:46:09 GMT -5
HS volleyball in Mass. is terrible as a general rule. Might want expand that to the "Northeast"
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 19, 2021 21:48:01 GMT -5
HS volleyball in Mass. is terrible as a general rule. Which begs another question. What sports are Massachusetts, New England and the NY metro area strong in? Not too many it seems. Field Hockey is the obvious answer....Two of the Lacrosse hotbeds are Long Island and upstate NY. Ice Hockey used to be but that has changed lately to many other areas.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 19, 2021 21:49:39 GMT -5
Just take a look at the rosters of other PL and Ivy League teams and your question about volleyball in this region will be answered - we are recruiting in the right regions but have to do a better job if it
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 19, 2021 21:53:52 GMT -5
Which begs another question. What sports are Massachusetts, New England and the NY metro area strong in? Not too many it seems. Field Hockey is the obvious answer....Two of the Lacrosse hotbeds are Long Island and upstate NY. Ice Hockey used to be but that has changed lately to many other areas. Thanks. With local recruits and two from South Africa we are looking good in F.H. Soccer can't be too bad around here as it is played so much.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 20, 2021 7:21:13 GMT -5
I have friends in England who, after watching the USA team for a number of years, were quite surprised to find out that soccer was played in American schools. They also believed that our teams must be so poor because they played the game so infrequently in this country. Playing a lot, by itself, does not necessarily make one better in a sport if strong competition and good coaching are not there.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 20, 2021 7:34:48 GMT -5
So, "practice makes perfect" no longer works?
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 20, 2021 8:40:08 GMT -5
Oh, it can certainly help...but to achieve "perfection," not so much. The type of practice actually play a role that is as important as the volume of practice. Practice with a poor coach, or playing against weaker opposition can make it much harder to achieve .that "perfection."
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 21, 2021 8:49:16 GMT -5
I have friends in England who, after watching the USA team for a number of years, were quite surprised to find out that soccer was played in American schools. They also believed that our teams must be so poor because they played the game so infrequently in this country. Playing a lot, by itself, does not necessarily make one better in a sport if strong competition and good coaching are not there. The late Bob Bigelow once shared that the Winchester (MA) High School football team could beat the school’s soccer team in a soccer match because kids around here are tired of playing soccer by the time they get to middle-school, and switch to something else - like football. Kids in Europe and South America don’t have as many options, and thus stay with soccer. Bigelow preached against things like third grade travel teams, and suggested that parents just let the kids play, and back off on year-round participation in a single sport. He frequently cited the ridiculously minute chances of little Johnny or Debby getting scholarships and making even a modest living playing a sport.
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 22, 2021 0:03:36 GMT -5
I have friends in England who, after watching the USA team for a number of years, were quite surprised to find out that soccer was played in American schools. They also believed that our teams must be so poor because they played the game so infrequently in this country. Playing a lot, by itself, does not necessarily make one better in a sport if strong competition and good coaching are not there. The late Bob Bigelow once shared that the Winchester (MA) High School football team could beat the school’s soccer team in a soccer match because kids around here are tired of playing soccer by the time they get to middle-school, and switch to something else - like football. Kids in Europe and South America don’t have as many options, and thus stay with soccer. Bigelow preached against things like third grade travel teams, and suggested that parents just let the kids play, and back off on year-round participation in a single sport. He frequently cited the ridiculously minute chances of little Johnny or Debby getting scholarships and making even a modest living playing a sport. Getting scholarships for soccer is the problem with the US Soccer system. At 18 years old in Spain or England, you are playing pro soccer. Here in the states, you are hoping for a full ride to go to college play four years and then head to the MLS at age 22. Mbappe made his professional debut at 16 years old and made his senior international debut with France at 18. He scored in a World Cup final at 19 years old. Mbappe's younger brother was a member of the PSG Under-12 team in 2018. Yes, a 12 year old team run by the professional club. His brother is under an "aspiring" contract through 2024. Just the difference is the coaching.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 26, 2021 15:35:08 GMT -5
Women are now 1-14 (0-4 PL) after one-sided losses this weekend at Loyola and AU - hopefully building for next season
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 26, 2021 16:16:54 GMT -5
Hope springs eternal so I have to agree we need to hope to see better results in the future (as men's soccer is now doing).
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