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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 2, 2021 15:37:20 GMT -5
Always the possibility that Merrimack and Harvard are darn good. Yes, but HC also beat an FBS team (albeit a bad one) and the 20th ranked FCS team. When a team yo-yos like HC does that's on the coach.
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Post by kaftan12 on Oct 2, 2021 15:41:56 GMT -5
Clearly a coaching issue going on here. Hope they figure it out.
Put up 45 against Monmouth then 13 against Harvard? Tough to make sense of it.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 2, 2021 15:43:22 GMT -5
Clearly a coaching issue going on here. Hope they figure it out. Put up 45 against Monmouth then 13 against Harvard? Tough to make sense of it. Harvard is a lot better than Monmouth based on what my eyes told me today.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 2, 2021 15:50:34 GMT -5
Unless Harvard is capable of beating Alabama having a swing from what we did against Monmouth to what we allowed to happened to us today is pretty hard to explain or defend.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 2, 2021 15:55:23 GMT -5
Does the team stay in a hotel the night before home games? If not, we should as too many temptations on and off campus
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Post by mm67 on Oct 2, 2021 16:12:02 GMT -5
Talent ruled the day. Clearly, Harvard has talent superior to HC. They were faster and stronger. Their lines decimated ours on both sides of the ball for much of the game. This was not an issue with coaching. I have said for years that Murphy was an underrated coach. Chesney is a fine coach. I am sticking with my preseason prediction of 8-3 or 7-4. Off week is a blessing after this thrashing today.
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Post by kaftan12 on Oct 2, 2021 16:20:41 GMT -5
I disagree. But score is the score. Going into bye week here is what we know. Defense is solid, kicker is amazing, PL title will still be a certainty and offense cannot be run with a 2 QB system, never works. We will see what Bobby does to prepare for a playoff run.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 2, 2021 16:26:44 GMT -5
Talent ruled the day. Clearly, Harvard has talent superior to HC. They were faster and stronger. Their lines decimated ours on both sides of the ball for much of the game. This was not an issue with coaching. I have said for years that Murphy was an underrated coach. Chesney is a fine coach. I am sticking with my preseason prediction of 8-3 or 7-4. Off week is a blessing after this thrashing today. We are a good team, and we are in the early stages of building a very good program. our inconsistency is a killer as is the 2 QB approach-very hard for a line to adjust to two different styles on what seems like scheduled alternating possessions. WRs look to have a tough time with the arm, speed,and heavy passes from Sluka and Siderman is a better technique QB but his release needs work defense and special teams make us a good team-top 25-40 what will it take for us to advance to that next level? time and talent? we are on track to move ahead, despite our lofty expectations and hopes for a quick fix-remember the conversations about we could be 1-4 at this point with a win over Merrimmack if We can keep a few 5th year seniors over the next two years they might leave a foundation of excellence for the future on another note Greenhagen looks to have a knee injury and Lafayette is not bad
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Post by hcpride on Oct 2, 2021 16:27:25 GMT -5
HYP are all strong this year. I think we had nice timing regarding the Yale game but in this case Harvard is nearly at mid season form. On top of all the expected talent we saw on their roster, their team speed is (IMHO) impressive.
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 2, 2021 16:42:37 GMT -5
HYP are all strong this year. I think we had nice timing regarding the Yale game but in this case Harvard is nearly at mid season form. On top of all the expected talent we saw on their roster, their team speed is (IMHO) impressive. Dartmouth instead of Yale
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 2, 2021 16:48:40 GMT -5
Some quick stats. Passing Sluka 4-16 for 72 yards, two picks, one a pick six, There was a third Int for a pick six but the Harvard defender dropped the ball that was thrown right at him Siderman 9-23 for 53 yards and one pick. IMO, too many plays calling for long passes, typically to a receiver who was covered by two defenders.
Rushing Sluka 8 for 25 yards and one TD Siderman one for -17 yards.
HC total yards 253. Harvard 368.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 2, 2021 17:00:10 GMT -5
Are you arguing for a QB change that goes to option 3 and build around him? Many of the other starters and back up pieces might be in place Or pick one of the two and develop them?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 2, 2021 17:19:12 GMT -5
HYP are all strong this year. I think we had nice timing regarding the Yale game but in this case Harvard is nearly at mid season form. On top of all the expected talent we saw on their roster, their team speed is (IMHO) impressive. Dartmouth instead of Yale Agreed. Preseason poll was Harvard 1, Yale 2, and then Dartmouth/Princeton essentially tied at 3rd. IMHO Yale has still got a shot given their roster. They looked like Alabama today (v Lehigh 🙂) Dartmouth v Yale is Saturday.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 2, 2021 17:29:42 GMT -5
Either Sluka or Siderman could improve with experience but the current arrangement insures HC always has a part timer at the most important position.
With Oliver and Purdy, Sluka with the option and good receivers to throw short-mid range passes to, I'm disappointed we didn't move the chains instead of attempt so many longer passes. Of course the Harvard D had a vote.
A successful short game will open up the occasional long pass. Whoever suggested playing both QBs in the game together has a point because it could get Sluka the ball in space.
The current QB rotation could work if it messed up the opponent but today it only seemed to mess us up with dropped passes and interceptions when both were in.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 2, 2021 17:29:56 GMT -5
Are you arguing for a QB change that goes to option 3 and build around him? Many of the other starters and back up pieces might be in place Or pick one of the two and develop them? I do not know how many reps each QB is getting in practice, but that could affect timing and routes. The recovered fumble in the backfield was charged to Oliver, but I thought it was Sluka's miscue. That's the second time there has been a miscue on a handoff or a fake handoff, and that might be due to insufficient reps. The problem is HC has three QBs, two with similar skill sets and one with a unique (to HC) skill set. And that unique skill set is such that there is a significant future risk of a knee or leg injury, which is probably a reason why they don't want him taking off with little hesitation. Sluka had a very good game against UConn, and a productive game against Merrimack, but he has about 240 passing yards total in the last three games.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 2, 2021 17:34:12 GMT -5
Are you arguing for a QB change that goes to option 3 and build around him? Many of the other starters and back up pieces might be in place Or pick one of the two and develop them? I do not know how many reps each QB is getting in practice, but that could affect timing and routes. The recovered fumble in the backfield was charged to Oliver, but I thought it was Sluka's miscue. That's the second time there has been a miscue on a handoff or a fake handoff, and that might be due to insufficient reps. The problem is HC has three QBs, two with similar skill sets and one with a unique (to HC) skill set. And that unique skill set is such that there is a significant future risk of a knee or leg injury, which is probably a reason why they don't want him taking off with little hesitation. Sluka had a very good game against UConn, and a productive game against Merrimack, but he has about 240 passing yards total in the last three games.     UConn was the least well coached and thus the least prepared of all our opponents so far.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 2, 2021 17:38:37 GMT -5
Interesting to watch the team when the offense comes off-I picked it up last week and saw it again today but the QB on the field comes over to talk with Pesansky- could be because he is talking to the press box, but he appears?? To be giving them what he sees on the field-he might be farther along in his development but a bit behind the other two in understanding the HC offense and the speed of the college game
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Post by spenser on Oct 2, 2021 18:31:50 GMT -5
Always the possibility that Merrimack and Harvard are darn good. Duquesne beat Merrimack 37-14 earlier today. Merrimack is 3-2.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 2, 2021 18:44:14 GMT -5
The Rose Shea era is completely lame duck. No one gives a #@*&$~! and we had a better time out on the baseball field than we did inside the stadium until we stop playing these crap teams and until we get better no one is ever going to care and the tailgate will be much better than the product on the field nothing has changed in 13 years (and for you older alums 30+ years). Glad public safety let us continue to Tailgate because I want to nothing to do with what went on inside that stadium. Hello? Crap team? Harvard is arguably the best college in the world, they are forty miles down the road and we've been playing them since 1904. They are undefeated, will be ranked and are the favorite to win the Ivy League. They have a coach with 26 years of success who has sent many players to the NFL. How the heck can Harvard be a crap team? Syracuse and Stanford are not walking through that door.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 2, 2021 18:50:45 GMT -5
Hey kid, why don't you take your diploma and return it to the registrar's office? Sheesh!
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Post by thecrossisback on Oct 2, 2021 19:14:53 GMT -5
The Rose Shea era is completely lame duck. No one gives a #@*&$~! and we had a better time out on the baseball field than we did inside the stadium until we stop playing these crap teams and until we get better no one is ever going to care and the tailgate will be much better than the product on the field nothing has changed in 13 years (and for you older alums 30+ years). Glad public safety let us continue to Tailgate because I want to nothing to do with what went on inside that stadium. God go root for Alabama your such a grouch. Sorry it’s not good enough for you. No one wants your fair weather fan support anyway!
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Post by timholycross on Oct 2, 2021 19:17:32 GMT -5
Harvard’s speed to the edge on offense is quite impressive. Yep- most of their better plays happened because their guys could get around the corner, so to speak.
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Post by inhocsigno on Oct 2, 2021 19:26:50 GMT -5
Hello? Crap team? Harvard is arguably the best college in the world, they are forty miles down the road and we've been playing them since 1904. They are undefeated, will be ranked and are the favorite to win the Ivy League. They have a coach with 26 years of success who has sent many players to the NFL. How the heck can Harvard be a crap team? Syracuse and Stanford are not walking through that door. NO ONE CARES WE SUCK AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO SUCK!!!!!!!! Clearly, he is still drunk from the tailgate.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 2, 2021 19:46:17 GMT -5
Always the possibility that Merrimack and Harvard are darn good. Yes, but HC also beat an FBS team (albeit a bad one) and the 20th ranked FCS team. When a team yo-yos like HC does that's on the coach. I'll tell you what's "on the coach", in my opinion: the final W-L record. Chesney is an outstanding football coach--again in my opinion--and I believe our 2021 W-L record will prove that. Hpw many teams are there that don't "yo-yo"?
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Post by hc87 on Oct 2, 2021 19:49:08 GMT -5
I don't blame cru12 too much...crowd was excited for a solid performance and the team laid an absolute egg for the 2nd straight home game this year.
Great day with life-long friends but still a mickey-mouse organization....couldn't use my Freshmen Field parking pass ("We're full!") at 11:30. PA at the game was dreadful etc....we just aren't ready for prime-time on or off the field yet.
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