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Post by hcbball on Jan 9, 2022 9:14:41 GMT -5
Very odd the schedule isn’t out, now that we’re approaching mid-January. Most opponents are set, so not sure why the hold up. Other than one mid-week game vs BC, there are no P5 opponents, which is disappointing. Season starts with:
Troy
New Mexico
NC ATT
3/7&3/8 open so maybe one more
VMI
Richmond
BC
Northeastern
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 12, 2022 12:09:40 GMT -5
Still waiting for the schedule but I see the '22 roster has been posted - the usual attrition with only 3 seniors remaining (and frosh class of 13)
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 12:12:17 GMT -5
No way to run a railroad.
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Post by alum on Jan 12, 2022 14:45:30 GMT -5
No way to run a railroad. Having players depart the program so that there are only three left when they are seniors or not posting the schedule (or both?) |
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 12, 2022 16:36:03 GMT -5
No way to run a railroad. Having players depart the program so that there are only three left when they are seniors or not posting the schedule (or both?) I was thinking about the structure of the program and the college. HC is a four year liberal arts undergraduate only college, and a good one. From a distance you would like to think that recruiting is consistent through coaching administrations in representing HC for exactly what it is and identifying student athletes who want to enjoy the full academic and baseball experience for four years. But when you have transient ADs it challenges that consistency. From the top down people in Athletics at HC's level are often looking to move up. Schools like Williams and Amherst, that are aspirational models for some supporters of HC, don't have similar challenges in clearly identifying their baseball and other sports to recruits because they aren't D-1. Schools in D-1 power conferences often provide full scholarships which eliminates confusion. I don't want HC to leave D-1 but in sports with a small amount of scholarship dollars to spread throughout the whole roster, trying to recruit and retain competitive D-1 players who are also playing four years for the love of the experience is a tall order. If Kit wants to stay long term and raises enough money to hire long term coaches who are pleased to stay at HC's level I think that might help run the railroad a little better. |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 12, 2022 22:24:22 GMT -5
Having players depart the program so that there are only three left when they are seniors or not posting the schedule (or both?) I was thinking about the structure of the program and the college. HC is a four year liberal arts undergraduate only college, and a good one. From a distance you would like to think that recruiting is consistent through coaching administrations in representing HC for exactly what it is and identifying student athletes who want to enjoy the full academic and baseball experience for four years. But when you have transient ADs it challenges that consistency. From the top down people in Athletics at HC's level are often looking to move up. Schools like Williams and Amherst, that are aspirational models for some supporters of HC, don't have similar challenges in clearly identifying their baseball and other sports to recruits because they aren't D-1. Schools in D-1 power conferences often provide full scholarships which eliminates confusion. I had a current Minor League baseball coach and former college head coach say that the NESCAC head coaching gigs were his DREAM jobs. No pressure to win and no fall ball. |
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Post by hcbball on Jan 25, 2022 11:13:03 GMT -5
Looks like Holy Cross hired a new AC. No coaching experience. All coaches former D3 players. Not sure the investment is there from a coaching perspective that shows a commitment to the program.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 25, 2022 11:37:20 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2022 12:00:56 GMT -5
From his profile:
I played baseball as a kid but perhaps I've really lost touch with the sport. While Gordie Lockbaum gained fame as a two-way player in football, has baseball gone to two-platoon system like college football? Or, did he play football instead of baseball and they just neglected to mention that fact?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 25, 2022 12:05:11 GMT -5
From his profile: I played baseball as a kid but perhaps I've really lost touch with the sport. While Gordie Lockbaum gained fame as a two-way player in football, has baseball gone to two-platoon system like college football? Or, did he play football instead of baseball and they just neglected to mention that fact? Pitcher and played a field position. I assume. Welcome aboard Michael and Petey. Don't bring Petey to a game before May 1st. He'll freeze to death. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 25, 2022 12:06:12 GMT -5
JV high school baseball to Division 1 is a big jump in two years. Good luck to Michael.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2022 12:08:06 GMT -5
L/S, that was my thought as well but I don't call that a "two-way player." Maybe they do down south?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 25, 2022 12:17:32 GMT -5
L/S, that was my thought as well but I don't call that a "two-way player." Maybe they do down south? Struck me as coining a term to praise yourself for taking a few fly balls. I hope Petey looks good in a tiny purple vest.🙂 Welcome aboard to all we can afford, but who sounds like an enthusiastic young guy. |
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Post by hcbball on Jan 25, 2022 12:20:47 GMT -5
Yes, two way player means pitcher and position player. Supposedly a couple in our freshman class are slated to be two-way players, which is fairly uncommon once you get to the college level. Tough to dedicate the time to both and increases risk of injury.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 25, 2022 12:31:47 GMT -5
It's a good descriptive term but I think in the past it was covered by "P/Of" or "P/SS".
Kind of like a drummer/lead singer in a rock band. Unusual but nothing wrong with it if both are done well. Adds versatility to the coaching staff.
Perhaps a good term for Michael is "Utility Coach".
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Post by bison137 on Jan 25, 2022 13:55:37 GMT -5
Yes, two way player means pitcher and position player. Supposedly a couple in our freshman class are slated to be two-way players, which is fairly uncommon once you get to the college level. Tough to dedicate the time to both and increases risk of injury. While it may be tougher, the PL has had a number of really good "two-way" players. Four that come to mind are: - Army's Cole White, who was a four-time All-PL SP and three-time All-PL in the field, including POY as a senior. White is 4th on the PL career list for HR's and 10th on the list for career BA. - Bucknell's Jason Buursma, who was a three-time 1st team All-PL pitcher and was twice an All-PL hitter, including POY as a senior. Buursma still holds the PL record for the best career ERA (2.13) and is 7th for career HR's despite limited AB's. Also he pitched nine scoreless innings and earned all four Bucknell wins in their 2008 PL title run. - Army's Ben Koenigsfeld, who was 1st team All-PL three times as an OF and twice All-PL as a SP, including Pitcher of the Year. - Navy's Mitch Harris was twice All-PL as a pitcher, including Pitcher of the Year, and once as a DH. Would have had more accolades if not for injury. - |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 25, 2022 14:05:59 GMT -5
Yes, two way player means pitcher and position player. Supposedly a couple in our freshman class are slated to be two-way players, which is fairly uncommon once you get to the college level. Tough to dedicate the time to both and increases risk of injury. Virginia had Danny Hultzen and Sean Doolittle who played both ways. Matt Wieters at Georgia Tech was a closer after catching for eight innings. Buster Posey was also a pitcher at Florida State. Marcus Stroman was a second baseman for Duke before pitching. These are major schools that use their best draft eligible players pitch in addition to hitting. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2022 14:09:31 GMT -5
So, just asking here, if someone played shortstop and, say catcher, would he also be a "two-way player"? I played primarily second base, but also played shortstop and occasionally third base. Does that qualify as a "three-way player"? You can probably tell that I'm not jumping on this bandwagon (that's probably passed me by by 4+ decades) but no one I knew used this expression except for football because after football players went from playing both offense and defense (and special teams) and specialized then someone who did both became unique. Lots of young baseball players played other positions when they weren't pitching usually because they were one of the best players on the team. Aging myself and certainly not the most important subject to be discussing on Crossports.  |
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 25, 2022 16:55:34 GMT -5
No subject is too small.🤣
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 26, 2022 20:15:25 GMT -5
Slattery has an Indian Ringneck Parakeet named Petey.
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 26, 2022 20:15:39 GMT -5
Slattery has an Indian Ringneck Parakeet named Petey.
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 26, 2022 20:15:53 GMT -5
Slattery has an Indian Ringneck Parakeet named Petey.
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 26, 2022 20:22:35 GMT -5
Just an FYI....
Petey was a parakeet belonging to Harry Dunne in Dumb & Dumber. He was decapitated by Joe Mentalino as a warning to Harry and Lloyd, but Harry thought he died because his head fell off his body.
This qualifies to me as a really good hire.
We have to face Mountain Hawks this year, Eagles, and RiverHawks. We needed a coach familiar with birds to really put us over the edge. Great stuff from the program!
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 26, 2022 21:26:53 GMT -5
On a wing and a prayer.🙂
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Post by bpob55 on Jan 27, 2022 12:14:45 GMT -5
Majored in biological chemistry at Grinnell, a very selective college in Iowa. I'd imagine he will do a great job relating to our players.
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