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Post by Tom on Jan 17, 2023 9:07:05 GMT -5
How much to baseball guarantee games pay?
It's not like basketball where it's the home games bring in a bunch of revenue so a guarantee is better than actually playing on the road
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 17, 2023 11:57:18 GMT -5
Some big southern schools (Arkansas, LSU, Miss State) draw 10,000 fans a game. Whether they’d draw that many for a Holy Cross visit I don’t know but they do generate considerable $$$ on ticket revenue
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 17, 2023 13:06:11 GMT -5
Some big southern schools (Arkansas, LSU, Miss State) draw 10,000 fans a game. Whether they’d draw that many for a Holy Cross visit I don’t know but they do generate considerable $$$ on ticket revenue Only Central Connecticut State is remotely close to the Holy Cross level and it is a three team round robin weekend series with LSU. lsusports.net/sports/bsb/schedule/ |
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 17, 2023 13:09:21 GMT -5
Still waiting for the roster to be updated for this season
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Post by hcbball on Jan 17, 2023 15:07:57 GMT -5
Still waiting for the roster to be updated for this season I believe some cuts need to be made before finalizing the roster. |
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Post by hcbball on Jan 17, 2023 15:18:24 GMT -5
Some big southern schools (Arkansas, LSU, Miss State) draw 10,000 fans a game. Whether they’d draw that many for a Holy Cross visit I don’t know but they do generate considerable $$$ on ticket revenue Only Central Connecticut State is remotely close to the Holy Cross level and it is a three team round robin weekend series with LSU. lsusports.net/sports/bsb/schedule/Yes, CCSU plays LSU which is awesome for the players. But I don’t think it’s an overstatement to say their schedule is horrendous outside of that. They don’t have the 2 weekend southern trips, which is the best part of the season for the players, and marginal OOC opponents outside of LSU. I’m just as disappointed as any that we’re playing VMI, Dartmouth and The Citadel, but it’s better than empty weekends. |
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 17, 2023 15:30:45 GMT -5
Yes, CCSU plays LSU which is awesome for the players. But I don’t think it’s an overstatement to say their schedule is horrendous outside of that. They don’t have the 2 weekend southern trips, which is the best part of the season for the players, and marginal OOC opponents outside of LSU. I’m just as disappointed as any that we’re playing VMI, Dartmouth and The Citadel, but it’s better than empty weekends. Why are we going backwards in things we can control? |
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 17, 2023 15:34:06 GMT -5
Still waiting for the roster to be updated for this season I believe some cuts need to be made before finalizing the roster. Cuts? Struggling to understand needing until February when these kids have been on campus since September? Aren’t they trying to grow the number of players on roster? Are we sure this is just not another example of basic tasks that don’t get completed in line with every other D1 program in America? |
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 17, 2023 16:18:33 GMT -5
I believe some cuts need to be made before finalizing the roster. Cuts? Struggling to understand needing until February when these kids have been on campus since September? Aren’t they trying to grow the number of players on roster? Are we sure this is just not another example of basic tasks that don’t get completed in line with every other D1 program in America? You can only carry 35 players in college baseball for the 2023 season. (You can go over 35 but since HC doesn't have grad school, they can't carry more than 35.) |
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 18, 2023 16:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by snapper on Jan 18, 2023 19:06:04 GMT -5
How much to baseball guarantee games pay? It's not like basketball where it's the home games bring in a bunch of revenue so a guarantee is better than actually playing on the road In baseball the guarantee payments are a lot less than football and basketball for obvious reasons. They can range from paying for the opponents travel costs to $10-15k. This money can then be used to fund the PL weekend travel. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Jan 19, 2023 9:58:19 GMT -5
Talking to one of the players yesterday said they had a chance to play Ole Miss last year but the coach opted instead for 4 games with Troy. All to play extra games.
Hopefully they have a good season! Excited to watch them play. Some on this board it seems would rather see them lose every game.
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Post by dutton09 on Jan 19, 2023 11:53:19 GMT -5
I agree! Definitely excited to watch them play. There is a lot for the team to improve upon, most notably IMO: the staff ERA of 7.20. You're not going to win a lot of games allowing over 7 earned runs per contest with our typical offenses. I think it will be interesting to see if we've added any higher-octane arms to the pitching staff.
DiLauro was the only pitcher to average over 90mph on his fastball last year, which is certainly normal for Patriot League staffs. But a number the teams on our "soft" OOC schedule have far more (Purdue: 4; Penn St: 5; Seton Hall: 6). It can be tough for our hitters to adjust to the velocity spike when all they've seen in the fall and early spring intrasquads is low-mid 80s arms.
Important to remember that the 2017 Corvallis Regional Team started the season 5-15...patience is always key and we have to give the team the benefit of the doubt early, despite what we might think about the current coaching staff. I'll be rooting for them big time!
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Post by hcross22 on Jan 19, 2023 14:40:07 GMT -5
MLB Desert Invitational: has a few remaining spots for their 2024 event. This is the premier 8 team opening weekend tournament in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Games hosted at top Major League Spring Training facilities in AZ. Guarantee is provided. Games broadcast live on the MLB Network and streamed on MLB.com. Please contact Chuck Fox at chuck.fox@mlb.com for additional information. This should be worth a call, no? Doubt we're good enough, but Chuck Fox is a former HC baseball player.
EDIT- just looked at teams playing this year. HC would have no chance of getting in.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 19, 2023 16:04:31 GMT -5
MLB Desert Invitational: has a few remaining spots for their 2024 event. This is the premier 8 team opening weekend tournament in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Games hosted at top Major League Spring Training facilities in AZ. Guarantee is provided. Games broadcast live on the MLB Network and streamed on MLB.com. Please contact Chuck Fox at chuck.fox@mlb.com for additional information. This should be worth a call, no? Doubt we're good enough, but Chuck Fox is a former HC baseball player.
EDIT- just looked at teams playing this year. HC would have no chance of getting in.
Next you are going to tell me they should be in the tournaments held at the Rangers and Astros home stadiums... |
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 20, 2023 0:54:30 GMT -5
I agree! Definitely excited to watch them play. There is a lot for the team to improve upon, most notably IMO: the staff ERA of 7.20. You're not going to win a lot of games allowing over 7 earned runs per contest with our typical offenses. I think it will be interesting to see if we've added any higher-octane arms to the pitching staff. DiLauro was the only pitcher to average over 90mph on his fastball last year, which is certainly normal for Patriot League staffs. But a number the teams on our "soft" OOC schedule have far more (Purdue: 4; Penn St: 5; Seton Hall: 6). It can be tough for our hitters to adjust to the velocity spike when all they've seen in the fall and early spring intrasquads is low-mid 80s arms. Important to remember that the 2017 Corvallis Regional Team started the season 5-15...patience is always key and we have to give the team the benefit of the doubt early, despite what we might think about the current coaching staff. I'll be rooting for them big time! Where are you getting 90mph arms players numbers? 4,5,6 would be below average for an average Division 1 program which is in line with a below average OOC opponent schedule. |
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Post by hcross22 on Jan 20, 2023 9:12:39 GMT -5
MLB Desert Invitational: has a few remaining spots for their 2024 event. This is the premier 8 team opening weekend tournament in the Scottsdale, AZ area. Games hosted at top Major League Spring Training facilities in AZ. Guarantee is provided. Games broadcast live on the MLB Network and streamed on MLB.com. Please contact Chuck Fox at chuck.fox@mlb.com for additional information. This should be worth a call, no? Doubt we're good enough, but Chuck Fox is a former HC baseball player.
EDIT- just looked at teams playing this year. HC would have no chance of getting in.
Next you are going to tell me they should be in the tournaments held at the Rangers and Astros home stadiums... No, they should be playing games vs the Rangers and Astros. They're that good! Did you not read the last line of my post? Would you like to me make the font bigger next time? |
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Post by dutton09 on Jan 20, 2023 22:36:19 GMT -5
I agree! Definitely excited to watch them play. There is a lot for the team to improve upon, most notably IMO: the staff ERA of 7.20. You're not going to win a lot of games allowing over 7 earned runs per contest with our typical offenses. I think it will be interesting to see if we've added any higher-octane arms to the pitching staff. DiLauro was the only pitcher to average over 90mph on his fastball last year, which is certainly normal for Patriot League staffs. But a number the teams on our "soft" OOC schedule have far more (Purdue: 4; Penn St: 5; Seton Hall: 6). It can be tough for our hitters to adjust to the velocity spike when all they've seen in the fall and early spring intrasquads is low-mid 80s arms. Important to remember that the 2017 Corvallis Regional Team started the season 5-15...patience is always key and we have to give the team the benefit of the doubt early, despite what we might think about the current coaching staff. I'll be rooting for them big time! Where are you getting 90mph arms players numbers? 4,5,6 would be below average for an average Division 1 program which is in line with a below average OOC opponent schedule. Data and statistics come from a subscription NCAA analytics platform service. 4-6 doesn't strike me as below average, but maybe right around average. Pulling numbers from random teams in 125-150 RPI range I found #127 Ohio with 0 90+mph average arms, #132 Santa Clara with 4, #137 Georgetown with 0, #139 New Orleans with 5, #142 Wright St with 6, #147 Army with 2, and #150 Harvard with 7. Of course you have your top end programs with 10+ 90+ mph arms. At the College World Series you had Tennessee (11), Stanford (6), Oklahoma (15), Arkansas (16), Texas (13), Ole Miss (12), Auburn (14), Texas A&M (12), but there's a pretty steep drop-off once you get out of top-level Power 5 range. Regardless, there is obviously much more to a team than the number of guys averaging over 90 (even though velocity is the #1 predictor of success at the college level). We both agree the OOC schedule is weak compared to years past, but my point is that I wouldn't expect our offense to fair much better since our hitters will still be seeing a caliber of arm that they haven't seen in intrasquads. |
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Post by alum on Jan 21, 2023 8:04:30 GMT -5
I am not sure how important this stat about number of guys who throw in the 90s actually is at our level of D 1. I would rather have more than fewer, but I think we can all agree that guys that throw that hard get a lot of chances to improve their command and develop off speed stuff. Many never do.
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Post by dutton09 on Jan 21, 2023 11:51:40 GMT -5
I agree. The initial point I was trying to make was that our hitters may struggle to adjust to velocities they have not seen during Live At-bats indoors or in the fall intrasquads. So even though the OOC conference is “weaker,” it doesn’t necessarily mean we are going to fair too much better record wise. Of course I hope I’m wrong about that and we roll from the get go!
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 23, 2023 14:07:35 GMT -5
Anybody know if baseball ended up landing that big fish sponsor?
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Post by hchoops on Jan 23, 2023 21:06:06 GMT -5
3 1/2 weeks before the first pitch
Still, no roster posted.
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Post by hcbaseballalum on Jan 24, 2023 7:28:23 GMT -5
3 1/2 weeks before the first pitch Still, no roster posted. We can’t do basic things. |
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Post by dutton09 on Jan 24, 2023 9:57:27 GMT -5
3 1/2 weeks before the first pitch Still, no roster posted. It appears there are still outstanding cuts/roster decisions to be made. These hard decisions were historically taken care of in the fall, so that the team after winter break was the full roster you'd be going to battle with in the spring. I can imagine it might be difficult during these early spring practices to know that you or the guy next to you might not be on the team in a week, even though the season is practically upon us. I'm sure for some the focus is not on week 1 but rather on the fact that the fate of their baseball career hangs in the balance right now. Hopefully morale remains high and most are able to keep those distractions to a minimum as the season approaches. |
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Post by hchoops on Jan 24, 2023 10:11:05 GMT -5
Thanks
Do you know why those cuts were not made in the fall ?
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